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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:57 AM Nov 2015

Carly Fiorina, Cop Killer: after terrorist attack on Planned Parenthood, she must drop out of race

By Bill Palmer |
Carly Fiorina was never fit to be a leader in the business world, and this year we’ve definitively seen that she’s not fit to lead in the political world either. Now she’s shown us something else: she’s not fit to be a public figure, period. In one of the most egregious political campaigns in recent memory, she focused on spreading vicious lies about Planned Parenthood in the hopes of climbing in the polls, knowing full well that the people she was pandering to were well armed and mentally disturbed. Now a police officer and other innocent people are dead as a direct result of Fiorina’s campaign – which she must now end. Immediately.

Long after the “Planned Parenthood is selling baby parts” videos were shown to be dishonestly edited and didn’t depict a Planned Parenthood clinic to begin with, Fiorina continued insisting that the organization was chopping up babies for profit. She made that disproven lie the focus of her campaign, and she briefly skyrocketed in republican polls, before even mainstream conservatives eventually figured out that she was a vicious pathological liar and gave up on her campaign.

Yet she continued beating the Planned Parenthood drum, and sure enough, one of the mentally disturbed “conservative christian” gun nuts she had been manipulating inevitably shot up one of the group’s clinics this weekend. Among the dead: a police officer who also served as a church pastor on the weekends, and oh by the way, his family says he happened to be morally opposed to abortion. So not only is Carly Fiorina a cop killer, and not only did she intentionally incite a domestic terrorist attack against the United States, she managed to get one of her own anti-abortion leaders murdered in the process. Not that she much cares about the abortion issue to begin with, other than as a political wedge.

Even as Donald Trump continues to incite his supporters to violence against the minorities who show up at his rallies with a campaign which gets far more attention due to his republican frontrunner status, the case can be made that Fiorina is running an even more disturbing, and certainly more deadly, campaign. There has never been anything quite like this in modern American politics. She was never going to come close to winning her party’s nomination, yet she continues with her campaign for no reasons other than ego and denial. Now cop-killer Carly Fiorina must drop out before her hatemongering rhetoric gets anyone else killed.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/after-inciting-terrorist-attack-against-planned-parenthood-carly-fiorina-must-drop-out-of-the-race/23132/

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Carly Fiorina, Cop Killer: after terrorist attack on Planned Parenthood, she must drop out of race (Original Post) n2doc Nov 2015 OP
Carly has blood on her hands--just like the media who pass her comments around! riversedge Nov 2015 #1
^^^^^ This ^^^^^ LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author trusty elf Nov 2015 #43
umk riversedge Nov 2015 #44
Great commentary... Satch59 Nov 2015 #3
Poor Carly faces an ever-shrinking saltpoint Nov 2015 #4
she could still be a televangelist or do late night get rich quick infomercials yurbud Nov 2015 #11
given the timber of her godawful Caltech speech she does't seem to be a believer MisterP Nov 2015 #18
The next Sham-Wow pitch person. nt TeamPooka Nov 2015 #39
Why have her drop out? 90-percent Nov 2015 #5
What really needs to stop is.... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #6
Hear Here! sorechasm Nov 2015 #7
Carl Sagan on gut-thinking: NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #15
Incorrect. The_Commonist Nov 2015 #46
Idiot America Invidious15 Nov 2015 #13
I love that book, and Charlie Pierce. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #16
true dat, and welcome to DU!! renate Nov 2015 #32
These people are no longer a political party (if they ever were) they are a dangerous group... liberalnarb Nov 2015 #8
Don't underestimate the violence Trump may cause. It's still early. world wide wally Nov 2015 #9
+1 jwirr Nov 2015 #10
She must be arrested. nt valerief Nov 2015 #12
"Leaders" gonna lead. moondust Nov 2015 #14
She needs to do much more than drop from the race marym625 Nov 2015 #17
"She needs to be charged as an accessory to murder." Kath1 Nov 2015 #26
That would be an interesting case--got an attorney in mind to bring civil suit? Proserpina Nov 2015 #30
My emotions get the best of me at times like these. Kath1 Nov 2015 #31
The only way to change law is to bring novel cases before it Proserpina Nov 2015 #33
About time for it in this country. At least in my opinion. Kath1 Nov 2015 #34
Damn fucking straight! It was a hate crime inspired by her lies! marym625 Nov 2015 #37
I'm sure she believes in it. I don't. Kath1 Nov 2015 #40
she believes in the almighty dollar marym625 Nov 2015 #42
I'll second that. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #27
I'm so sick and tired of the oligarchs getting away with murder marym625 Nov 2015 #38
K & R malaise Nov 2015 #19
Her initials are most appropriate to anyone who knows military lingo KamaAina Nov 2015 #20
The way one uses words and language , indeed, can lead to serious consequences Dr Rise Nov 2015 #21
I see it from both sides PatrynXX Nov 2015 #22
Listening to Carly describe Planned Parenthood... Mike Nelson Nov 2015 #23
Oh That's Such a Liberal Thing To Say!" n2doc Nov 2015 #24
Completely agree. She has a lot of blood on her twisted hands patsimp Nov 2015 #25
I disagree. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #28
Not just a cop killer. Killer of a lovely mother of two and an Iraq War vet. mainer Nov 2015 #29
It's Called "Stochastic Terrorism" cer7711 Nov 2015 #35
Great link, thanks for sharing that! beerandjesus Nov 2015 #48
You're very welcome! cer7711 Nov 2015 #50
Yet another narcissist in the GOP clown car Fritz Walter Nov 2015 #36
We should call her campaign number en masse, and make her own it. Gus2525 Nov 2015 #41
It's about time for LIES to catch up with these Stellar Nov 2015 #45
The lies are too busy catching up with victims to have time to catch up with the candidates. nt Gore1FL Nov 2015 #47
Petition to charge Carly Fiorina with incitement of terrorism Tarc Nov 2015 #49

Response to riversedge (Reply #1)

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
3. Great commentary...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:21 PM
Nov 2015

I hope this line of commentary starts spreading into the MSM... I have felt since the beginning that Trump in particular was opening up a can crazies that could be incredibly dangerous and Fiorina's lies (while she doesn't get Trump's coverage) has now proven to be deadly... When are the other GOP candidates going to speak out?? Their silence makes them equally guilty... Like that poor witness to the shootings said..."it's not right...it's not right..."

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
4. Poor Carly faces an ever-shrinking
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:35 PM
Nov 2015

landscape of opportunities to fail.

She fucked up bad at Hewlett Packard. Barbara Boxer kicked her ass in a Senate race. Now she's guilty of lying through her teeth on a Planned Parenthood video, contributing to the atmosphere of death. I don't know know if Mr. Dear knows who Carly Fiorina is, but it is extremely disturbing that police report he stated "baby parts" upon his arrest in Colorado Springs.

Hey. Some journalist ought to ask Carly about taking responsibility. After that, the journalist can ask her what big project she has lined up to fail at next after she loses the GOP nomination by a spectacular margin.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
18. given the timber of her godawful Caltech speech she does't seem to be a believer
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

so she'd make a good fundagelical

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
5. Why have her drop out?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:36 PM
Nov 2015

After the Colorado Springs Tragedy, I want her to double down on her poll winning efforts to continue painting PP in the baby parts chop shop business!

I want her to climb in the polls after she explains that the death of this extremely upstanding cop was worth the price! Gotta break a few eggs and freedom isn't free, you know.

-90% Jimmy

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. What really needs to stop is....
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:52 PM
Nov 2015

.... this GOP notion that facts are merely opinions, and thinking with your gut is better than thinking with your reason.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
7. Hear Here!
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:03 PM
Nov 2015

Better yet how about an intervention for those addicted to 'Gut Reactions'.

When I get a 'Gut Reaction' I usually head for the toilet not the voting booth.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
15. Carl Sagan on gut-thinking:
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:00 PM
Nov 2015

A reporter asked Sagan for his opinion on life on other planets, Sagan demurred, saying he didn't know. When the reporter pressed, asking for Sagan's "gut feeling," he replied: "I try not to think with my gut."

This was shortly after W's "bragging" that he liked to think with his gut.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
46. Incorrect.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015

Carl Sagan died in 1996.
Bush talked about his gut in a Barbara Walters interview, long after 9/11.
You wrote this because your gut told you it was true...

Invidious15

(17 posts)
13. Idiot America
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:40 PM
Nov 2015

in his 2009 book "Idiot America", Charlie Pierce discussed these points at length. Paraphrasing CP: Anything can be true, if you say it loudly and often enough, if you appear to believe it, and enough of the lesser hominids eat your bullshit up with a big fucking spoon and ask for seconds. In Idiot America, there's no discerning fact from the fiction created by the right wing bottom feeders. The MSM is complicit in all of this, making only the lamest of efforts to point out the difference.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
8. These people are no longer a political party (if they ever were) they are a dangerous group...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:03 PM
Nov 2015

bordering terrorism.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
14. "Leaders" gonna lead.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:59 PM
Nov 2015

It's what they do.

Would 6 million Jews have been murdered by a death cult if Hitler had never stirred up and exploited the mass hatred of Jews, gained power and led the way to that conclusion?

The Colorado Springs murderer was led to Planned Parenthood by politicians shamelessly trying to stir up and exploit wedge issues to attract voters and gain power. They should all drop out.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
17. She needs to do much more than drop from the race
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

She needs to apologize to the country, to each person injured in the terrorist attack she caused and the families of those who were murdered.

She needs to be charged as an accessory to murder.

I posted about her lies back when she spewed that hate. Seemed, at that time, not too many saw the danger.

This is part of the plan to control us all. Women and minorities are at the top of the pyramid in taking that control. We can't allow it to continue

#StandWithPP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027224870

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
26. "She needs to be charged as an accessory to murder."
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:43 PM
Nov 2015

I agree. Totally.

An apology is not nearly enough. She has innocent blood all over her today. Her lies fueled the hate that incites the RW crazies that kill people.

She should be facing criminal charges. And she needs to drop out of the race NOW. She is a disgrace. Don't know how she can sleep at night.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
30. That would be an interesting case--got an attorney in mind to bring civil suit?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:07 PM
Nov 2015

Accessory to murder is a criminal charge, and I don't think there's a prosecutor in the nation who would even go there.

But a civil suit would be an interesting wedge to force this issue into the courts and then the legislatures...

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
31. My emotions get the best of me at times like these.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:13 PM
Nov 2015

Yes, criminal charges are probably out of the question.

But I do hope that the injured and the families of those killed consider civil tort lawsuits. I think a skillful attorney could make an excellent case.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
33. The only way to change law is to bring novel cases before it
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:16 PM
Nov 2015

and this would be a good place to start to prohibit or at least punish hate speech, as is done in Germany....

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
34. About time for it in this country. At least in my opinion.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

It is an option that needs to be considered.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
37. Damn fucking straight! It was a hate crime inspired by her lies!
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:53 PM
Nov 2015

If I believed in hell, I would damn her for eternity

marym625

(17,997 posts)
38. I'm so sick and tired of the oligarchs getting away with murder
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:56 PM
Nov 2015

Fuck every single person that helped incite this terrorist attack on women. And her words were used by the terrorist.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
19. K & R
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:32 PM
Nov 2015

A man shows up at the Planned Parenthood parking lot with propane cylinders in his car and an AK47 - he kills three people, is identified as an RW Christian terrorist and Obama hater.
The same media who wants us not to be clear about his motive (although he stated his motive clearly) spread and continue to spread the long discredited deceitful videos without batting a fucking eyelid.

Give me a fucking break.

They are beyond delusional - they are deliberately obfuscating, lying and spinning to protect the anti=Planned Parenthood goons and they are goons.

Fuck Fiorina. Fuck them all. Fuck the ReTHUG base as well.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
20. Her initials are most appropriate to anyone who knows military lingo
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

even a little bit. CF = Charlie Foxtrot. 'Nuf ced.

 

Dr Rise

(99 posts)
21. The way one uses words and language , indeed, can lead to serious consequences
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:55 PM
Nov 2015

Stop the hate speech now!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
22. I see it from both sides
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:15 PM
Nov 2015

I don't like attaching Cop-Killer to anyone but say the moron on CNN who was talking at the time the attack was underway. That particular idiot and CNN should be both arrested and fined. Carly is just repeating what her masters tell her. (MEN) But again I see it from both sides because I grew up on the other. and unlike the Right which rushed to Judgement once the fake videos even touched the dust on the ground I'm waiting.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
23. Listening to Carly describe Planned Parenthood...
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:05 PM
Nov 2015

...make the Killer's actions perfectly understandable.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
28. I disagree.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:58 PM
Nov 2015

Certainly it was partly carly's fault, but the blame shouldn't stop there. It's the hatemongering of Faux Noise, billo, rush lamebrain, plus multiple right-wing sites, AM hate radio personalities and major newsprint publications.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
29. Not just a cop killer. Killer of a lovely mother of two and an Iraq War vet.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:07 PM
Nov 2015

One of the victims was a young woman from Hawaii who was at PP to accompany a friend. Now her kids have no mom. Carly Fiorina needs to be forced to stare at a photo of that young mother's face every day of her life. Carly helped gun her down.

cer7711

(502 posts)
35. It's Called "Stochastic Terrorism"
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:48 PM
Nov 2015
Definition: Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable. In short, remote-control murder by lone wolf.

http://valerietarico.com/2015/11/28/christianist-republicans-systematically-incited-colorado-clinic-assault/

cer7711

(502 posts)
50. You're very welcome!
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 08:07 PM
Nov 2015

Now, if we could only get the Koch-sucking corporate media to call it what it is . . .

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
36. Yet another narcissist in the GOP clown car
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:36 PM
Nov 2015

She will not apologize.
She will not withdraw from the race (at least not until her donors jump ship in numbers too large to ignore).
She will not accept the responsibility for her inflammatory statements.

Fiorina should be under the care of a team of medical and psychological professionals. But that's not likely to happen in our current socio-political system.

What hath GOP wrought

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
45. It's about time for LIES to catch up with these
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:43 AM
Nov 2015

candidates and reporters need to start calling a liar out about their outrageous lies just like Lawrence O'Donnell says no matter who says it!

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