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Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:22 PM Nov 2015

Why is it that when the gas valve on the furnace decides to fail, it is on a holiday weekend?

I have a wood stove as well, so I won't freeze by any means, but it is probably going to be chilly in here until Monday. It's an older furnace, and it isn't going to be easy to find a part.

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Why is it that when the gas valve on the furnace decides to fail, it is on a holiday weekend? (Original Post) Thor_MN Nov 2015 OP
Oh crap. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #1
There are millions of dollars spent on R&D for the proper design to be able to enhance LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #2
Always sharp_stick Nov 2015 #3
Be grateful it's not plumbing Lifelong Protester Nov 2015 #4
It's inevitable. hifiguy Nov 2015 #5
But is it the valve or the power supply to it. And it could be that the thermostat LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #6
It's the gas valve. It is making a buzzing humming noise when the thermostat is calling for heat. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #11
I had one go out on Dec. 23, 2007. It's like they're programmed. sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #7
It's a law. Cars do that shit on the weekend, too. nt Nay Nov 2015 #8
Pretty common for things to break when they are used. HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #9
Yup, suposed to be a high of 33 tomorrow, veritible heat wave. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #12
I remember Bemidji and parking on the lake after t'day break HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #16
Why? For the same reason your sewer line clogs up FuzzyRabbit Nov 2015 #10
the machines are in cahoots with the repair people. 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #13
Dogs always bite the porcupine Agony Nov 2015 #14
Why does my disposal always break down on holidays? northoftheborder Nov 2015 #15
For the same reason I woke up sorefeet Nov 2015 #17
You have my sympathy. I was prepared to not be 100% for eating on Thanksgiving. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #23
One of the corollaries to Murphy's Law. ManiacJoe Nov 2015 #18
My heater (electric) quit on me Thursday, too, and of course this is our first span of tblue37 Nov 2015 #19
I don't know anything about your situation, Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #20
And the time to get one installed... Thor_MN Nov 2015 #21
Snobblevitch is right - replace it when you can csziggy Nov 2015 #30
The same reason your plumbing decides to act up before a dinner party Retrograde Nov 2015 #22
Systems only fail when you need them. Iggo Nov 2015 #24
my parents lancer78 Nov 2015 #25
why does a boiler decide to die on the coldest day -50 in the middle of the night? pansypoo53219 Nov 2015 #26
A few years ago my mom's oven chose LibDemAlways Nov 2015 #27
My furnace is out. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #28
It's good to have a woodstove too Victor_c3 Nov 2015 #29
It is the double time and a half detector. AngryAmish Nov 2015 #31
Having a working furnace is great... Thor_MN Dec 2015 #32

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
2. There are millions of dollars spent on R&D for the proper design to be able to enhance
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

the income level of the factory trained service personnel.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
3. Always
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:25 PM
Nov 2015

I understand completely. If you have a service contract give them a call, if not get some blankets until you can get the parts.

Stay warm.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
6. But is it the valve or the power supply to it. And it could be that the thermostat
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:28 PM
Nov 2015

is not working properly also. Google it and I bet you will find a wiring diagram for it and might be able to trouble shoot it. Usually you will have a 24 volt transformer with one wire going to the valve and the other to the thermostat and then from the thermostat it runs to the valve. Sometimes the AC power to the transformer is out like a breaker trip or a fuse blown.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. It's the gas valve. It is making a buzzing humming noise when the thermostat is calling for heat.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:58 PM
Nov 2015

That was my diagnosis and the furnace guy took 30 minutes to decide it was the gas valve too. He is checking with an older acquaintance who is a furnace guy to find a replacement art or a newer gas valve that can be substituted.

In the mean time, it's chopping firewood and feeding the wood stove for heat.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. Pretty common for things to break when they are used.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:42 PM
Nov 2015

Hang in there. Monday isn't so far away...

National weather service promises an above normal temp Dec!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. I remember Bemidji and parking on the lake after t'day break
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:22 PM
Nov 2015

So, 33 really -could- be a heat wave for some parts of MN.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
10. Why? For the same reason your sewer line clogs up
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:49 PM
Nov 2015

on Thanksgiving morning or Christmas Eve, just as your extended family arrives for the holiday.

It's a basic law of nature. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong, and at the worst possible time.

Agony

(2,605 posts)
14. Dogs always bite the porcupine
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:11 PM
Nov 2015

when the vet's away. corollary to same rule…

stay warm
i'll keep the dog close at hand

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
17. For the same reason I woke up
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

at 2 a.m. Thanksgiving morning with a raging tooth ache. Ended up at the emergency room for anti-biotics. It's all just to make your life miserable for a couple days. All I could get down all day was one slice of bread.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
23. You have my sympathy. I was prepared to not be 100% for eating on Thanksgiving.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:48 PM
Nov 2015

Was supposed to have some wisdom teeth out the Friday before, but they wouldn't do it because of my blood pressure. A (long overdue) trip to an MD later and I have two prescriptions now and expect that the doctor is going to add some things after ordering some follow up lab tests. I also have a sleep study and a colonoscopy scheduled.

At least my mom can't nag me about that any more...

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
19. My heater (electric) quit on me Thursday, too, and of course this is our first span of
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:36 PM
Nov 2015

genuinely cold weather, with ice from freezing rain all over everything.

I am waiting until Monday to call the landlord, though, because he would have to pay the heater guy double if he came out over the holiday, and my little space heater is keeping us comfortable enough for now.

My air conditioner also waits for weekends and holidays to stop working, and always when the temp hits 100 degrees in July.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
20. I don't know anything about your situation,
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:03 PM
Nov 2015

except that you also have a wood burner to heat your home, but if you have the money, replacing your old furnace with a new, high energy efficient furnace would lower your hearing bills. Of course, there is the initial cost.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
21. And the time to get one installed...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:37 PM
Nov 2015

I've probably got no room to gripe financially.

In the long run, I'd be better off getting a new furnace. But considering the new car, new roof that I had not much choice about this year, and new health issues brought up while attempting to get wisdom teeth extracted, I've made significant dents in my cash reserves. I work in IT, and after spending the summer of 2002 jobless after training a H-1B visa holder how to do my job, having a buffer became important to me.

If my guy finds a gas valve that will work, and it isn't a significant fraction of the cost of a new furnace, I'll try to squeak another year or two out of the beast. I'll have the house paid off in about 30 months, and replacing the furnace closer to that time will be a much easier decision.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
30. Snobblevitch is right - replace it when you can
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:38 AM
Nov 2015

My parents' house had the original heating and air conditioning system from when the house was built in 1968. About five or six years ago it started breaking down - one part or another would go out, always at the worst possible time.

Dad didn't want to spend the money to replace it so he paid the repair company to patch it up. Over those years he spent about three times as much for repairs as a new system would have cost, and he was still paying more for the air handling in utility bills every month.

After Dad died, the system went down and my sister (who is handling Mom's affairs) replaced the unit. Not only is the house more comfortable, Mom's utility bills have dropped drastically.

I hope you can stay warm over the weekend!

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
22. The same reason your plumbing decides to act up before a dinner party
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:42 PM
Nov 2015

We had an old gas furnace go out one winter and while we're nowhere near as cold as Minnesota it does get down to freezing. Since the furnace repair guy dated the old one to c. 1910 and parts were not available, we ended up replacing it with a new, smaller and more efficient model. But it was a very cold two weeks.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
26. why does a boiler decide to die on the coldest day -50 in the middle of the night?
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:48 AM
Nov 2015

because they can. the spice of life. no wood backup. only coffee & sweaters & call in for repairman. on the bright side, not living in a cave.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
27. A few years ago my mom's oven chose
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:54 AM
Nov 2015

to quit on Christmas day when she went to turn it on to cook a turkey. Fortunately, I live close by and came to her rescue, but it seems that appliances have both a mind of their own and a mean streak. She also once had a water heater burst on the 4th of July. These things always happen at the worst possible time.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
28. My furnace is out.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:09 AM
Nov 2015

Needs a whole new heating unit so I am waiting on parts. No furnace for a week now. I'm using 2 heaters. My house is really little so it's not 2 bad .

Problem is when I have to leave for a while I have to turn the heaters off so it's cold when I get back and I have to heat everything back up again.

Could be a lot worse. At least I have electricity and I am not homeless.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
29. It's good to have a woodstove too
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:27 AM
Nov 2015

It's a nice backup - and I've used it several times in the last couple of years when I've had issues either with the furnace or during extended power outages.

I use my woodstove a lot to heat my house so I always have plenty of firewood around as well.

Enjoy!

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
31. It is the double time and a half detector.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:53 AM
Nov 2015

Union rules demand they are installed on all major appliances.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
32. Having a working furnace is great...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 12:33 AM
Dec 2015

Finally the heat is back on. I think the repair guy gouged me a bit on the labor, since the extra time was due to his fumbling around and the after hours was him bumping me from our agreed on business hours time for "an 80 year old lady without heat", but frankly I don't care. Having heat is wonderful.

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