About the Colorado clinic shooter.
As of this point, I have no way of knowing is this is another Dylan Roof who was pushed to kill by the same people that will deny they ever meant THAT, even though their language indicates sure talks about THAT. I do not whether this was another suicidal idiot that just wanted 15 minutes of fame before they die, you know, the working class males that are so driven by losing a job/wife that they feel this is their way to get even. Isis sure as hell has not claimed responsibility.
I will say several things based on facts that have been proven again and again, with the reliability of Swiss clockwork. If you are easily offended kindly stop reading this and find some Kittens to look at. Consider that what the college kids like to call a "trigger warning" pun intended.
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OK first what NOT to do:
If you go ahead and start saying "the real focus is on mental illness" then do not be surprised when you get slapped down. I say this as someone with Asberger's and Bipolar Depression, yes, the same cocktail Adam Lanza had. Yet, like many of four corners of the globe, I have NOT gone on killing sprees. I am fortunate that I get treatment, no small thanks to the fact I am disability. However, there are people with my makeup, and far far far worse then me, who still manage to avoid shooting up places, why, gun control laws that demand that someone take RESPONSIBILITY for owning a gun, including how to store it safely. Note, that is not "go to Florida or Arizona where people sell whatever to whoever and do not care who they give it to." The mental illness issue is an attempt to deflect from the fact that anyone can get a gun and not have to go through half the hassle it takes to get a driver's license.
PS: do not dare bring up France. The reason those people got guns into Europe is because our dear friends the Saudis, Turks and "Syrian Moderates" have tons of CASH that we dare not trace.
Second: do not say "we have laws on the books already!" yes, and whose side has been making sure the agencies that enforce those laws are underfunded and attacked as jackboots at every turn. Remember Jan Brewer wagging her finger in Obama's face after Arizona stopped a sting? When a Governor can in effect say "fuck you" to the PRESIDENT, you know those laws will not get enforced.
Third: Do not wave the constitution. Do that, you will be told the very wording of the second amendment implies a well regulated Militia. Not that it matters.
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I updated a thread I posted asking if the Charleston SC shooter was a domestic terrorist earlier today...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026872573
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