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Last edited Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)
That's from local Colorado station KOAA on GEM$NBComcast. This is HUGE and an attack on a national institution. Thank you ReTHUGs Fundies and RW Radio. This time you also shot cops so you fucking fucks will get what's coming...fucking radical RW Christian terrorists.
Oh fuck you!!!
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)intended to attack the Planned Parenthood facility.
It may be that (he) didn't.
What source did KOAA have to confirm intent?
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Did you put two and two together and get three?
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)now that the suspect is in police custody.
Everything prior to the cops' interview with the suspect was speculation.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)riversedge
(70,306 posts)damn!
malaise
(269,172 posts)Expect casualties other than the cops who were shot
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Rex
(65,616 posts)The GOP has destroyed this country to the point of armed, mentally unstable, CTers running around doing "God's work". No...you are doing the GOPs work for them.
The scary thing is this is not the first time nor will it be the last. And now they shot a cop, you know malaise...to save lives.
Frankly I think America is becoming unhinged and The Donald is a perfect example of it. So is Ted Cruz and Ben Carson, neither man responsible enough to hold onto an ice cream cone.
WorldNutDaily will be loving this...so will Pat on the 700 Club, their minds are diseased with righteous fury.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Yet can't wait to kill cops in service to their various right wing causes (I'm thinking specifically about the Cliven Bundy supporters who murdered random cops in Las Vegas, and those guys from TN that wanted to kidnap police and "put them on trial" (might have been some other state, now that I think about it).
jwirr
(39,215 posts)what the motive.
riversedge
(70,306 posts)PP sent out this response and so many are just calling them vile names. etc. You can go yourself to see if you want.
Planned Parenthood Verified account
?@PPact
Were monitoring the situation at the #ColoradoSprings PP health center. Right now our concern is for the safety of patients, staff & police
riversedge
(70,306 posts)to know if the shooter is still active??
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)I've seen a couple of people commenting on the local news and on my FB feed that this started at the bank,
then the guy ran outside shooting at passing cars, then ran to PP.
That could all be bull p maybe he did target the PP clinic - but my point is that we just don't know what we don't know yet.
Could be a bank robbery gone bad, could be he started at PP because ex GF works there, could be he is a radical Christianist terrorist bent on hurting people at a PP.
Still five people in the building according to the police scanner.
malaise
(269,172 posts)from the Press COnference.
My reading is that there are casualties other than those in hospital
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)Anyway, he just surrendered.
So we will know very soon. Police clearing bldg now.
I'm sure it will turn out that he is RWNJ terrorist, as our guts tell us (esp since he set up propane tanks to shoot at in the lot, apparently). It just seems like a lot of speculation early on, before hostages out.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Check the news again, and posts down thread.
It was at the clinic.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)They should be arrested.
TheBlackAdder
(28,216 posts).
This is a really weird split in mentality.
These Libertarian types bitch about paying taxes, yet they want additional births to hit their local, state, and federal taxes--to the tune of $18-20K per kid per year. Wealthier families will find a way to get abortions, leaving the people who are more prone to rely on WIC, SNAP, daycare, medicaid, food stamps, school lunches, etc.. The poorer households will be affected more income and job wise, casting them in a lower financial stratus that is difficult to rise from.
The white supremacists bitch about too many 'others,' yet the poor will feel the brunt more, and since there is rampant discrimination in this country, the minorities will suffer from abortion service cuts--leading to more non-whites being born. These guys are really stupid.
There needs to be a Libertarian discussion on the economics of having thousands of extra unplanned births hitting a state's budgets. Each birth will result in over $300K of additional taxes. Rick Perry found this out when he cut abortion services and there were 7K more births, causing over $120M in additional taxes and expenses each year, for 18 years, until the kids are emancipated. And that will be for only one birth year. If you have that same rate or more each and every year, it will pyramid into the billions by the time all grade levels in school are filled with those addional kids.
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mcar
(42,375 posts)malaise
(269,172 posts)casualties - not just injured gunshot victims - but persons killed at the PP building
mcar
(42,375 posts)to absolve themselves of any responsibility. Let's hope the media doesn't aid and abet them.
malaise
(269,172 posts)looks like he may actually have a bomb - this is fucking scary
mcar
(42,375 posts)Terrifying.
malaise
(269,172 posts)ellenrr
(3,864 posts)muslim.
He sure is lucky to have walked out alive - that's amazing.
It's up to pro PP folks to make this a huge issue.
I have to say those cops had really nasty weather to deal with this afternoon.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)malaise
(269,172 posts)They may have been really worried that he was wearing an explosive device.
They worried about propane tanks
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,485 posts)Plus another weapon maybe. Nope.
malaise
(269,172 posts)several bags according to the police Rep speaking right now on GEM$NBComcast
Rex
(65,616 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Sad that it has come to this in America.
spanone
(135,880 posts)herding cats
(19,568 posts)Some victims reportedly left Planned Parenthood and went to a nearby bank.
Buckley told reporters that there is only one gunman, and does not know his identity. She confirmed the shooter remains holed up in the building that houses Planned Parenthood, and that he has been shooting at officers for the last couple of hours.
Four officers are confirmed injured; Buckley said it's unconfirmed if a fifth was also hurt. There is no word on their conditions, and Buckley could not confirm if there were any fatalities. Several civilians were also injured.
http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Active-Shooter-Situation-At-Planned-Parenthood-356013081.html
Just so everyone knows the police confirm what you're saying, malaise.
malaise
(269,172 posts)Remember even now there are people who argue that those little children at Sandy Hook did not die - it was made up
herding cats
(19,568 posts)If it bodes ill for their beliefs they make up any manner of insane story to try and avoid facing a difficult reality. Sandy Hook deniers are a perfect example of that type.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Focus on the Family is very active there. The Air Force, with it's aggressive proselytizing, has it's academy there..
There is very little chance that this isn't classic domestic terrorism.
malaise
(269,172 posts)AK47 - he is still shooting
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)What I see is a guy who attacked a clinic and who reportedly took long distance pot-shots at other retail businesses to draw police into his kill zone.
There have been a handful of these type of attacks in the past decade, this once again shows other violent deviants how it's done.
Let's hope it's not a harbinger of a season to come.
malaise
(269,172 posts)claimed religious reasons - they were supposedly pro-life
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Whatever summaries, ranges, and central tendencies can be developed from other attacks, we don't yet know how this shooter fits into models developed from descriptions of others.
The social media posts identifying a shooter, which may have -nothing- to do with the actual shooter, suggest the shooter is simply trying to enforce -conservative- ideals, not christian ideals.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)They have a different definition of "Christian behavior", much like that of the Crusaders of old...they believed that killing the followers of Islam was acceptable behavior for a "Christian"...why would you expect it to change?
Your definition of Christian behavior is probably diametrically opposed to that of people like Tony Perkins, Ted Cruz, and the rest of the radical religious right!
malaise
(269,172 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)malaise
(269,172 posts)Not killed to boot
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)We'll get to know him soon.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)where he got his beliefs, his contacts, his support, and any other shit he may have.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)We don't always get that chance
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Hekate
(90,827 posts)As our president becomes more likely to tell it like it is in his last year in office, how I would love to hear him say those words.
malaise
(269,172 posts)Why can't they speak about casualties - that's troubling.
Hekate
(90,827 posts)From the most radical of the candidates I expect some form of victim-blaming, along the lines of how emotionally distraught the shooter had become over abortion, and while of course he was not justified in his actions, fill in the blanks; and how brave the cops were (I agree with this part) in trying to save all those people.
I'm am so sick of American terrorists.
malaise
(269,172 posts)and their enablers.
I'm no fan of cops but these guys did a good job in awful weather.
fbc
(1,668 posts)malaise
(269,172 posts)freedumb over at Free ReTHUGlic
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)Attack caused by "poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism"
http://on.ktla.com/1xXMy #ColoradoSprings
TRUE!!
another tweet:
"Yet another act of terror NOT committed by a Syrian refugee..."
wolfie001
(2,268 posts)These nutbags are bloodthirsty! More reason to win the Presidency next year!!!
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)4 years before that--
but abortion has pretty much been eliminated in about 90% of the country...
so I wouldn't put my hope in the president.
wolfie001
(2,268 posts)lastlib
(23,288 posts)They'll tie themselves into knots between now and Monday
riversedge
(70,306 posts)TWEET
Sheila Retweeted
Dean Obeidallah ?@Deanofcomedy 15m15 minutes ago
Here are just a few of conservatives cheering for the #PlannedParenthood shooter
riversedge
(70,306 posts)Sheila Retweeted
David Samples ?@NatureGuy101 25m25 minutes ago
Please RT if you're waiting for Republican govs to ban white Christian males from their states #PlannedParenthood
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)jeez.
right... nothing to do with the wholesale attacks on Planned Parenthood and on reproductive rights...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)thank god.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)defined terroism and said this incident was probably "bordering" on terrorism.
Rex
(65,616 posts)that turned out to be correct. SO much better than the mindless drones waiting to be told how/what to think. Thanks for showing how it is done!
Seems a lost art in America.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)malaise
(269,172 posts)AG says tragic loss of life which suggests even more
PP not aware of staff killed - contracting everyone to verify.