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Turkey. A controversial topic that's sure to get people fired up. (Original Post) Xolodno Nov 2015 OP
I like smoked the best. Doing oven baked this Thanksgiving. Would like to deep fry sometime Waldorf Nov 2015 #1
As far as I am concerned, smoked turkey is nasty. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2015 #45
You forgot - stuffed or unstuffed! csziggy Nov 2015 #2
Got to have the Mirepoix! Aerows Nov 2015 #5
I haven't added garlic before - that would be good csziggy Nov 2015 #13
I use freeze dried garlic Aerows Nov 2015 #15
I do get fresh garlic but I found minced garlic in a tube that is great csziggy Nov 2015 #18
Is it better than the garlic in the jar? Codeine Nov 2015 #25
I don't know - it's been decades since I bought garlic in a jar csziggy Nov 2015 #28
Wife watches a lot of cooking shows... Xolodno Nov 2015 #6
She's right packman Nov 2015 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author HuckleB Nov 2015 #52
sounds interesting! shanti Nov 2015 #19
I've never done it but I think I would like it csziggy Nov 2015 #22
it's intriguing shanti Nov 2015 #29
No problem - it's not an original idea csziggy Nov 2015 #32
I like this idea a lot pscot Nov 2015 #41
From watching the videos the hardest part is cutting out that backbone csziggy Nov 2015 #43
Stuffed - with stuffing in the bird Retrograde Nov 2015 #42
Have done deep fried Aerows Nov 2015 #3
Best turkey I ever had was fried. plus5mace Nov 2015 #7
It's fantastic when it is done correctly Aerows Nov 2015 #9
Ours is from a barbecue joint this year. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #4
Microwaved 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #8
Made of wheat gluten and tofu. Codeine Nov 2015 #10
If Tofurky was all I had to look forward to Aerows Nov 2015 #21
I actually love it. Codeine Nov 2015 #23
You can have as much of it Aerows Nov 2015 #24
Wait...what? Tree-Hugger Nov 2015 #35
I'm telling you Aerows Nov 2015 #40
That's just not right Tree-Hugger Nov 2015 #44
Probably, but your Grandmother made it, so take some, eat it, and shut up!!! Thor_MN Nov 2015 #50
. Tree-Hugger Nov 2015 #54
To brine or not to brine. That is the question. NV Whino Nov 2015 #11
Been brining my turkey BREASTS for years packman Nov 2015 #37
Should one really brine that long? I thought overnight was recommended... Thor_MN Nov 2015 #55
They develop a nice salt crust after the 7th month packman Nov 2015 #59
Would love to try brine one day.... Xolodno Nov 2015 #57
I confess I buy pre-brined, kosher turkey breasts from Trader Joes. NV Whino Nov 2015 #58
Fresh or frozen - doesn't really matter packman Nov 2015 #60
No point if there's no turkey gravy TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #12
Just don't Nuke it MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #14
Thread win! KamaAina Nov 2015 #16
Turkey is awful. Chan790 Nov 2015 #17
probably just baked shanti Nov 2015 #20
I wish those had been around when I was a kid. Codeine Nov 2015 #27
yeah, it's not the prettiest turkey when using them shanti Nov 2015 #31
my favorite part is when they cut the beak and feet off the turkey. I wonder how that feels. ellenrr Nov 2015 #26
Oh dear, I thought you were talking about the country! potone Nov 2015 #30
I think the deep frying of a turkey is over rated. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #33
Weber grill with apple wood for smoke. eom Purveyor Nov 2015 #34
Brined and then roasted. cwydro Nov 2015 #38
tvp. nt JanMichael Nov 2015 #39
Just don't talk about turkey at Olive Garden or there WILL be hell to pay here! randome Nov 2015 #46
Cold. I like mine cold. MineralMan Nov 2015 #47
No wonder. You're in Minnesota. EVERYTHING is cold there. randome Nov 2015 #48
It's getting that way, now. First snow in MineralMan Nov 2015 #49
All work well, but it's best if brined. HuckleB Nov 2015 #51
The 7 Best Deep-Fried Turkey Disaster Videos HuckleB Nov 2015 #53
Well, just to add more fuel to the debate Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #56
Oven baked, hands down. prouddemfromaustin44 Nov 2015 #61
Read the packaging on your turkey. Thor_MN Nov 2015 #62
Just saw another way on food network.... Xolodno Nov 2015 #63
Deep fried is great madokie Nov 2015 #64

Waldorf

(654 posts)
1. I like smoked the best. Doing oven baked this Thanksgiving. Would like to deep fry sometime
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:32 PM
Nov 2015

but peanut oil is expensive.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
45. As far as I am concerned, smoked turkey is nasty.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:49 AM
Nov 2015

However, the worst turkey I ever had was prepared by my mother-in-law about 25 years ago. My MIL is deathly afraid that any turkey will be tough (which ignores the fact that the last tough commercial turkey in the US was produced during the Truman administration, if not before). So she took out her large Nesco Roaster, put a couple of inches of water in the bottom, and steamed the turkey. It certainly wasn't tough. However, all the flavor wound up in the water and the skin was inedible.

Actually, I agree with Calvin Trillin, who said that the national dish on Thanksgiving should be Spaghetti Carbonara, which is much better than turkey.

Just to cement my reputation as a Thanksgiving iconoclast, I should mention that I loathe pumpkin in any of its manifestations and I have no love for squash either (except zucchini). I once tried using butternut squash in a pumpkin pie recipe, and it was just as horrid as if I had used pumpkin.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
2. You forgot - stuffed or unstuffed!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:33 PM
Nov 2015

I like oven baked with the dressing cooked on the side but with aromatic vegetables (onion, celery, carrot) in the body cavities for extra flavor. This year I may spatchcock my turkey - if I do, I might put the stuffing on the bottom for the last half of the cooking time.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
13. I haven't added garlic before - that would be good
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:49 PM
Nov 2015

I'm glad people are talking about this - I need to check my herbs and spices and make sure I have everything I need. I'll use dried - I am no good at keeping fresh herbs in stock and dried works for most things.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. I do get fresh garlic but I found minced garlic in a tube that is great
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:58 PM
Nov 2015

I got that when recovering from carpal tunnel surgery and didn't have use of one thumb for two months. It's cool since you can just squeeze a little bit out and stir in - fantastic for little bit of garlic for eggs or to make garlic mayonnaise.

Here is a review of the brand I bought at the local Publix: http://thiseclecticlife.com/2009/12/09/garlic-is-indeed-a-tuber-but-should-it-be-in-a-tube/

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
25. Is it better than the garlic in the jar?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:13 PM
Nov 2015

I use that when I'm feeling lazy but it's definitely more bitter than fresh garlic.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. I don't know - it's been decades since I bought garlic in a jar
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:17 PM
Nov 2015

I like the tube since I can get the garlic out without contaminating the rest of the garlic. The last time I bought garlic in a jar it got moldy pretty quick, I think because I wasn't as careful as I should be about using a clean implement to get it out.

I haven't noticed any bitter flavor - even when making garlic butter to spread on bread.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
6. Wife watches a lot of cooking shows...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:38 PM
Nov 2015

...and many of them say not to stuff it because of salmonella.

I told her that's blasphemy.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
36. She's right
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:12 PM
Nov 2015

stuffing a turkey is playing with salmonella - reason is the stuffing just won't reach the correct temp. to kill any wayward germs. Think about it - the turkey juices (which are suspect) soak into the bread. When the turkey temp. is correct to come out of the oven, the stuffing is still - at best lukewarm with all that turkey juice soaked into it. Literally a germ bomb.

Wife is correct. Put stuffing in separate pan, moisten it with turkey or chicken broth and serve on side. You're playing the odds otherwise.

Response to Xolodno (Reply #6)

shanti

(21,675 posts)
19. sounds interesting!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:59 PM
Nov 2015

i've never seen this method before, and i like crispy skin. just sent this to my chef son, i'd like to hear what he has to say about it. thanks for posting this!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
22. I've never done it but I think I would like it
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

Since I like dark meat and my husband likes white, they never get done the right amount with the bird as normal.

Here is another video on spatchcocking:

He's got some better details on how to cut it and cooking it.

It's also supposed to be a great way to fix poultry for grilling since the meat all cooks more evenly.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
29. it's intriguing
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:19 PM
Nov 2015

yes, i can see that it might work on a large propane grill too. i'd probably try a chicken first though. do you mind if i crosspost this to the cooking forum?

my turkey is only 12 pounds, so i just might give this a try. the way it looks isn't important to me, the way it tastes is! i'm a dark meat person myself, and it sucks when the dark meat is dried out.

thanks again

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
32. No problem - it's not an original idea
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:23 PM
Nov 2015

I may have seen it mentioned here on DU in the first place. Or maybe it was on one of the cooking shows on Saturday.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube about spatchcocking. Just don't watch the one from Betty's Kitchen - she mutilates her turkey and then beats it. I stopped watching it when she pulled out the rolling pin!

pscot

(21,024 posts)
41. I like this idea a lot
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:05 AM
Nov 2015

One hour baking time is a powerful incentive. The video makes it look like a piece of cake. The stuffing can bake in a side dish under buttered parchment paper or foil. Boiling the back with the giblets will make a great stock for gravy. The responses should be interesting. A new thing!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
43. From watching the videos the hardest part is cutting out that backbone
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:27 AM
Nov 2015

And the pelvis. On one of the videos, a comment suggests cutting along the cartilage on the inside of the breastbone to make it easier to flatten it. The first video I posted shows taking out the wish bone which makes it easier to get the breast meat free at the end.

I'm out of homemade turkey stock so having the backbone, neck and giblets to make fresh will be great. I usually use my stock to mix the dressing - but that can be cooked on the stove top quickly while the bird is cooling.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
42. Stuffed - with stuffing in the bird
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:11 AM
Nov 2015

we usually do a corn bread stuffing, which ex-Alabamian Mr. Retrograde insists on: I start the cornbread a week in advance so it gets nice and dry. It's then crumbled and cooked with a mirepoix before being crammed into the bird. There's always a lot extra that can be baked separately for the vegetarians. Or to be eaten later with gravy. And the turkey is roasted.

But this year we're doing duck.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. Have done deep fried
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:35 PM
Nov 2015

Done correctly, it is delicious. Done incorrectly, let's just say you will be eating the ham instead.

I'm a plain old oven baked fan, though. Fill it full to bursting of stuffing, and it makes me happy.

plus5mace

(140 posts)
7. Best turkey I ever had was fried.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:39 PM
Nov 2015

It wasn't much different than fried chicken, but that's not a bad thing.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. It's fantastic when it is done correctly
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:41 PM
Nov 2015

The best way to get it is someone doing a bunch of them. It's really expensive to do just one because of the peanut oil, and frankly, and inexperienced fryer (and inadequate equipment) can ruin it.

Deep fried turkey - outsource it!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. If Tofurky was all I had to look forward to
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:00 PM
Nov 2015

on Thanksgiving, I'd probably eat a TV Dinner.

The only thing more foul is the Jello salad with carrots suspended in it then slathered with mayonnaise.

I've had Tofurkey. I will not be having it ever again. Grill some eggplant if you are a vegan, enjoy some quinoa stuffing in the eggplant. Eat some fresh carrots or even some corn on the cob. Beans?

Don't eat such abominations as Tofurkey. You only encourage them to make more of it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. You can have as much of it
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:09 PM
Nov 2015

as you like!

If I ever get a coupon offering free Tofurky dinners, you will be the recipient - far be it from me to deny those who enjoy something.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
40. I'm telling you
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

there are worse concoctions in the universe than even Tofurky.

Lime Jello with Cabbage suspended in it slathered in mayo for example.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
50. Probably, but your Grandmother made it, so take some, eat it, and shut up!!!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 12:37 PM
Nov 2015

If you don't eat it, you will get it as an enema!!!

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
37. Been brining my turkey BREASTS for years
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:19 PM
Nov 2015

moist and juicy. Roasting makes a turkey lose something like 35% of its moisture, hence dry white meat. Brining holds the moisture in so only something like 15% of the moisture is lost on cooking. Brining (7 oz. of KOSHER salt not table salt) to a gal. of water and overnight brining does it. I use Emeril Lagasse brining and family loves it. However there are simpler ones that only use salt/water/sugar and whatever flavors you like to enhance the taste.




http://beta.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/roast-breast-of-turkey-recipe.html#!

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
57. Would love to try brine one day....
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 06:17 PM
Nov 2015

....but obtaining a fresh turkey a bit difficult. Have family that are on farms.....maybe one day I can get them to help out. That is, I'll pay for the thing and pay them to butcher it. Saw a lamb butchered once....and didn't eat meat for a year.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
58. I confess I buy pre-brined, kosher turkey breasts from Trader Joes.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 06:51 PM
Nov 2015

you can get whole kosher turkeys there, too. But for one person, a breast is perfect.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
60. Fresh or frozen - doesn't really matter
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:32 PM
Nov 2015

BUT- of course, defrost the frozen turkey or turkey breast per instructions. I don't believe I have ever had a fresh, off-the farm, killed turkey so I may be wrong--

FUNNY, this popped into my mind: Sarah and the turkey -

?t=3

shanti

(21,675 posts)
20. probably just baked
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:00 PM
Nov 2015

but i always use those big cooking bags for moist turkey. before i started using them, the turkey often came out dry.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
33. I think the deep frying of a turkey is over rated.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:33 PM
Nov 2015

The oil needed to fry the bird costs more than the turkey.

I cooked a turkey on a gas grill a couple of weeks ago. Thursday I'm cooking one on our oven to bring to a Thanksgiving meal at a family gathering.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. Just don't talk about turkey at Olive Garden or there WILL be hell to pay here!
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:52 AM
Nov 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
48. No wonder. You're in Minnesota. EVERYTHING is cold there.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 10:30 AM
Nov 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
49. It's getting that way, now. First snow in
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 10:36 AM
Nov 2015

St. Paul probable tomorrow. Only place I ever have lived where you need three different jackets to get through winter. A light jacket for fall and spring. A medium parka (mine's a Swedish Army parka) for temps between 10 and 32 degrees. A major L.L. Bean winter-buster parka that cost $150 for everything under 10 degrees. Each jacket or parka has its own pair of gloves in the pockets, also suited for a particular temperature range.

Three hats, too, including the big ear-flap one that makes you look like Elmer Fudd while you're out shoveling and blowing snow in the middle of a blizzard.

But, hey, we get 4 months of beautiful weather each year, punctuated by thunderstorms and tornados. It's a wonderful place to live. Lots of variety. Variety is good.

 
61. Oven baked, hands down.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:33 PM
Nov 2015

I don't particularly care for turkey as a whole, though. I much prefer eating chicken or roast beef on Thanksgiving.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
62. Read the packaging on your turkey.
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 07:34 PM
Nov 2015

If it says that it is injected or contains a "solution", there is no point in brining, it already has been done. Brining will increase the weight (water) in the turkey, so it is common for that to be done. You are paying by the pound, so go figure...

madokie

(51,076 posts)
64. Deep fried is great
Wed Nov 25, 2015, 09:30 PM
Nov 2015

Smoked in a Big Green Egg cooker is awesome. Deep fried scared me in the fact its so dangerous and won't be doing it again


http://www.biggreenegg.com/

ETA: Oven roasted is good too

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