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Oven baked? Deep Fryed? or Smoked?
I say smoked is the best.
Waldorf
(654 posts)but peanut oil is expensive.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)However, the worst turkey I ever had was prepared by my mother-in-law about 25 years ago. My MIL is deathly afraid that any turkey will be tough (which ignores the fact that the last tough commercial turkey in the US was produced during the Truman administration, if not before). So she took out her large Nesco Roaster, put a couple of inches of water in the bottom, and steamed the turkey. It certainly wasn't tough. However, all the flavor wound up in the water and the skin was inedible.
Actually, I agree with Calvin Trillin, who said that the national dish on Thanksgiving should be Spaghetti Carbonara, which is much better than turkey.
Just to cement my reputation as a Thanksgiving iconoclast, I should mention that I loathe pumpkin in any of its manifestations and I have no love for squash either (except zucchini). I once tried using butternut squash in a pumpkin pie recipe, and it was just as horrid as if I had used pumpkin.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I like oven baked with the dressing cooked on the side but with aromatic vegetables (onion, celery, carrot) in the body cavities for extra flavor. This year I may spatchcock my turkey - if I do, I might put the stuffing on the bottom for the last half of the cooking time.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I add garlic to it, as well.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I'm glad people are talking about this - I need to check my herbs and spices and make sure I have everything I need. I'll use dried - I am no good at keeping fresh herbs in stock and dried works for most things.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Litehouse is a good brand and you can't tell the difference.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I got that when recovering from carpal tunnel surgery and didn't have use of one thumb for two months. It's cool since you can just squeeze a little bit out and stir in - fantastic for little bit of garlic for eggs or to make garlic mayonnaise.
Here is a review of the brand I bought at the local Publix: http://thiseclecticlife.com/2009/12/09/garlic-is-indeed-a-tuber-but-should-it-be-in-a-tube/
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I use that when I'm feeling lazy but it's definitely more bitter than fresh garlic.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I like the tube since I can get the garlic out without contaminating the rest of the garlic. The last time I bought garlic in a jar it got moldy pretty quick, I think because I wasn't as careful as I should be about using a clean implement to get it out.
I haven't noticed any bitter flavor - even when making garlic butter to spread on bread.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...and many of them say not to stuff it because of salmonella.
I told her that's blasphemy.
packman
(16,296 posts)stuffing a turkey is playing with salmonella - reason is the stuffing just won't reach the correct temp. to kill any wayward germs. Think about it - the turkey juices (which are suspect) soak into the bread. When the turkey temp. is correct to come out of the oven, the stuffing is still - at best lukewarm with all that turkey juice soaked into it. Literally a germ bomb.
Wife is correct. Put stuffing in separate pan, moisten it with turkey or chicken broth and serve on side. You're playing the odds otherwise.
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shanti
(21,675 posts)i've never seen this method before, and i like crispy skin. just sent this to my chef son, i'd like to hear what he has to say about it. thanks for posting this!
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Since I like dark meat and my husband likes white, they never get done the right amount with the bird as normal.
Here is another video on spatchcocking:
It's also supposed to be a great way to fix poultry for grilling since the meat all cooks more evenly.
shanti
(21,675 posts)yes, i can see that it might work on a large propane grill too. i'd probably try a chicken first though. do you mind if i crosspost this to the cooking forum?
my turkey is only 12 pounds, so i just might give this a try. the way it looks isn't important to me, the way it tastes is! i'm a dark meat person myself, and it sucks when the dark meat is dried out.
thanks again
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I may have seen it mentioned here on DU in the first place. Or maybe it was on one of the cooking shows on Saturday.
There are a lot of videos on YouTube about spatchcocking. Just don't watch the one from Betty's Kitchen - she mutilates her turkey and then beats it. I stopped watching it when she pulled out the rolling pin!
pscot
(21,024 posts)One hour baking time is a powerful incentive. The video makes it look like a piece of cake. The stuffing can bake in a side dish under buttered parchment paper or foil. Boiling the back with the giblets will make a great stock for gravy. The responses should be interesting. A new thing!
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And the pelvis. On one of the videos, a comment suggests cutting along the cartilage on the inside of the breastbone to make it easier to flatten it. The first video I posted shows taking out the wish bone which makes it easier to get the breast meat free at the end.
I'm out of homemade turkey stock so having the backbone, neck and giblets to make fresh will be great. I usually use my stock to mix the dressing - but that can be cooked on the stove top quickly while the bird is cooling.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)we usually do a corn bread stuffing, which ex-Alabamian Mr. Retrograde insists on: I start the cornbread a week in advance so it gets nice and dry. It's then crumbled and cooked with a mirepoix before being crammed into the bird. There's always a lot extra that can be baked separately for the vegetarians. Or to be eaten later with gravy. And the turkey is roasted.
But this year we're doing duck.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Done correctly, it is delicious. Done incorrectly, let's just say you will be eating the ham instead.
I'm a plain old oven baked fan, though. Fill it full to bursting of stuffing, and it makes me happy.
plus5mace
(140 posts)It wasn't much different than fried chicken, but that's not a bad thing.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)The best way to get it is someone doing a bunch of them. It's really expensive to do just one because of the peanut oil, and frankly, and inexperienced fryer (and inadequate equipment) can ruin it.
Deep fried turkey - outsource it!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)So I'm guessing there will be smoke.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Wait. . . I'm in the wrong room. TOFURKY FOR LIFE!!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)on Thanksgiving, I'd probably eat a TV Dinner.
The only thing more foul is the Jello salad with carrots suspended in it then slathered with mayonnaise.
I've had Tofurkey. I will not be having it ever again. Grill some eggplant if you are a vegan, enjoy some quinoa stuffing in the eggplant. Eat some fresh carrots or even some corn on the cob. Beans?
Don't eat such abominations as Tofurkey. You only encourage them to make more of it.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I make it every few months year-round. I genuinely enjoy eating it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)as you like!
If I ever get a coupon offering free Tofurky dinners, you will be the recipient - far be it from me to deny those who enjoy something.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Jello and mayo? Good God........WHY?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)there are worse concoctions in the universe than even Tofurky.
Lime Jello with Cabbage suspended in it slathered in mayo for example.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)It's not okay.
Are these foods served as punishment?
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)If you don't eat it, you will get it as an enema!!!
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)moist and juicy. Roasting makes a turkey lose something like 35% of its moisture, hence dry white meat. Brining holds the moisture in so only something like 15% of the moisture is lost on cooking. Brining (7 oz. of KOSHER salt not table salt) to a gal. of water and overnight brining does it. I use Emeril Lagasse brining and family loves it. However there are simpler ones that only use salt/water/sugar and whatever flavors you like to enhance the taste.
http://beta.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/roast-breast-of-turkey-recipe.html#!
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)Xolodno
(6,395 posts)....but obtaining a fresh turkey a bit difficult. Have family that are on farms.....maybe one day I can get them to help out. That is, I'll pay for the thing and pay them to butcher it. Saw a lamb butchered once....and didn't eat meat for a year.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)you can get whole kosher turkeys there, too. But for one person, a breast is perfect.
packman
(16,296 posts)BUT- of course, defrost the frozen turkey or turkey breast per instructions. I don't believe I have ever had a fresh, off-the farm, killed turkey so I may be wrong--
FUNNY, this popped into my mind: Sarah and the turkey -
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Just sayin'
MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)Give me a nice lasagna instead or a mac-and-cheese.
shanti
(21,675 posts)but i always use those big cooking bags for moist turkey. before i started using them, the turkey often came out dry.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Dry turkey year after year.
shanti
(21,675 posts)but that doesn't matter to me
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)yum...
potone
(1,701 posts)Never mind.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)The oil needed to fry the bird costs more than the turkey.
I cooked a turkey on a gas grill a couple of weeks ago. Thursday I'm cooking one on our oven to bring to a Thanksgiving meal at a family gathering.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Yum.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)St. Paul probable tomorrow. Only place I ever have lived where you need three different jackets to get through winter. A light jacket for fall and spring. A medium parka (mine's a Swedish Army parka) for temps between 10 and 32 degrees. A major L.L. Bean winter-buster parka that cost $150 for everything under 10 degrees. Each jacket or parka has its own pair of gloves in the pockets, also suited for a particular temperature range.
Three hats, too, including the big ear-flap one that makes you look like Elmer Fudd while you're out shoveling and blowing snow in the middle of a blizzard.
But, hey, we get 4 months of beautiful weather each year, punctuated by thunderstorms and tornados. It's a wonderful place to live. Lots of variety. Variety is good.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Family of vegetarians
prouddemfromaustin44
(52 posts)I don't particularly care for turkey as a whole, though. I much prefer eating chicken or roast beef on Thanksgiving.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)If it says that it is injected or contains a "solution", there is no point in brining, it already has been done. Brining will increase the weight (water) in the turkey, so it is common for that to be done. You are paying by the pound, so go figure...
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...steaming it.
Wonder if they do it in a Turkish Bath.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Smoked in a Big Green Egg cooker is awesome. Deep fried scared me in the fact its so dangerous and won't be doing it again
http://www.biggreenegg.com/
ETA: Oven roasted is good too