so shopping on turkey day bad, but eating thanksgiving meal in restaurant is ok?

[dembotoz]

how does that work?

having early brunch with my friend who works in a big box early cause she has to be at work by 5

we complain about stores being open but having cooks and busboys work is somehow not the same?

curious very curious

[NightWatcher]

1. I hate places that stay open on Turkey Day, but my Starbucks better be open....

Hypocrites, aint we

[dembotoz]

2. she and i will be pissing an moaning bout her having to work while stuffing our faces

we can be sooooo oblivious

[katsy]

3. Some people living alone have no other place to connect on holidays

Like thxgiving. A local restaurant stays open half day just for people who for some reason wouldn't have a thxgiving meal otherwise. They bring unsold food to a local soup kitchen at close.

I always considered that different than an optional shopping trip in a way.

[-none]

4. If you can afford it, double the usual tip for those that have to work.

Let the workers get something out of it also. Cash directly to them.

[Warpy]

5. Yes, and in cash

Tip jars on bars should also be heavy. Also tips to cab drivers.

Hospital staff can't take tips, but food is welcome.

[Logical]

15. Cash to avoid paying taxes? Nt

[Warpy]

21. Cash so they have a choice

if no one else is tipping.

If you ever worked for tips, you'd know.

[Logical]

24. How GOP of you! Nt

[Ed Suspicious]

28. You go ahead and bitch about the $2.33 per hour earner getting one over on you. That seems a little

GOP.

[Logical]

32. Let me know how much per hour is ok to avoid taxes, i will see if i can....

Start also. Thanks!

[Warpy]

40. You've obviously never worked for tips. How elitist of you.

Buh bye.

[Logical]

41. Let me know if I can avoid taxes also. nt

[Retrograde]

42. Tips are taxable income, cash or not

and have been for all the decades I've been paying income taxes. Just because cash is harder to track doesn't mean it's non-taxable.

We now return you to the regularly scheduled rant...

[madinmaryland]

6. How about the folks working at Gas stations? They are all open. nt

[csziggy]

8. Not all are open

But I may bake some cookies and give some to the people at the stations we stop at.

We have to drive two hours each way to get to the in laws. On the route we take over in the morning there are no rest stops so we usually stop at a gas station to use a restroom. On the way back it used to be we'd have to fill up the tank and there were only two stations open on the way out of town. Now with the Prius, we don't have to stop on the way home.

[NobodyHere]

7. And somebody better be working the Lions and Cowboy games!

[Snobblevitch]

9. There are many jobs which have people working on Thanksgiving.

I used to be in a line of work in which I worked most of the holidays if they landed on a weekday.

[alphafemale]

10. It used to be was that the only restaura open were run by people that did not celebrate the holiday.

Many restaurants are now buffet style to add insult many people will feel they do not have to tip.

Assholes.

[blogslut]

11. Well,

I was a waitron for many years. Working on holidays and weekends was a given. Not saying it's right but there are many jobs that don't fall into the standard weekdays-only format.

I would rather live in a country where people employed in the service industry were paid a living wage. It's no good staying home to celebrate a holiday with your family if you can't afford it.

[dembotoz]

13. yes

[TheFrenchRazor]

14. i'm used to working weekends/holidays too, but T-giving is where i draw the line

draw the line. at the very least employees should be given the option of whether to work or not, with no negative consequences if they choose not to.

[blogslut]

18. I would add that employees who work holidays

...be paid a bonus for doing so.

Mind you, most restaurants I worked at closed on T-Gives because there wasn't enough business worth staying open. Bonus for me because restaurant orphan-Thanksgivings are glorious.

[msongs]

12. thanksgiving day is an artificial construct. millions of people prefer to do something else so why

should those people be forced by the majority to stay home in their caves? same goes for xmas

[Logical]

16. True! It is a silly argument! Pilots, airports, trains, hospitals, etc! Nt

[kcr]

17. How does that work? Easy. Not everyone has family to eat with on Thanksgiving

Equating big box stores with restaurants is your first mistake. Claiming that those who are arguing that big box stores shouldn't be open are saying no one should have to work on Thanksgiving is another one. No one ever said that no one ever worked on Thanksgiving until Big Box stores came alone. Mistake number three.

[TexasBushwhacker]

19. People have to eat

They don't have to shop.

[Snobblevitch]

20. More annoying than shopping on Thanksgiving is when anyone

uses the term "turkey day" imstead of saying Thanksgiving.

[MADem]

29. Some people have far more colorful names for the day....

The National Day of Mourning is an annual protest organized since 1970 by Native Americans of New England on the fourth Thursday of November, the same day as Thanksgiving in the United States. It coincides with an unrelated but similar protest, Unthanksgiving Day, held on the West Coast.
The organizers consider the national holiday of Thanksgiving Day as a reminder of the democide and continued suffering of the Native American peoples. Participants in the National Day of Mourning honor Native ancestors and the struggles of Native peoples to survive today. They want to educate Americans about history. The event was organized in a period of Native American activism and general cultural protests. The protest is organized by the United American Indians of New England (UAINE). Since it was first organized, social changes have resulted in major revisions to the portrayal of United States history, the government's and settlers' relations with Native American peoples, and renewed appreciation for Native American culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_of_Mourning_(United_States_protest)

[lunasun]

33. why may I ask?

[yellowcanine]

35. Uh oh, does Bill O know about the WAR ON THANKSGIVING???!!!!

Seriously, you must be easily annoyed.

[JI7]

22. the issue is more that the big corporate businesses DO force people to work

yes, there are some people who want to work that day and that is fine.

but it has more to do with what the large corporations have turned the whole thing into .

[cwydro]

23. Airline workers, hospital workers, police, firemen, stadium (football) workers, television workers,

gas station workers, movie theater workers...I could go on.

Lots of people work on holidays all the time.

[Retrograde]

43. The IT workers who'll keep the internet servers up and running while we complain (n/t)

[LanternWaste]

25. I can understand why someone eating on Thanksgiving, yet not shopping would confuse you.

A foolish constituency is the hobgoblin of little minds. However, if believing that all things should be consistently applied regardless of context, nuance or detail, I tip my hat to your absolutism and your confusion. It's human nature.

[cwydro]

31. "Constituency?"

I think the word in that quote is "consistency."

[Ed Suspicious]

26. My family lived in a campground in the middle of Missouri during thanksgiving 2004. It was

very nice for us to be able to head over to the Golden Coral in a nearby city to share a hot "homestyle" meal together. I was thankful they were there for us.

[Kilgore]

27. Some work by choice

Our daughter is a waitress at a local steak house and signs up for all the holidays.

She says the tips are 2x of regular days.

[dembotoz]

30. i fear not many

i asked my friend if she was getting extra pay for working on turkey yes TURKEY DAY is what i will call it...

is she getting higher pay....she laughed really hard.

i will say that one of my sons who worked in a big box DID say that management had nice food in the break room for the occasion

but now where my friend works

[yellowcanine]

34. Who is "we"? I don't get your complaint.

[dembotoz]

37. a number of do not patronize stores open on turkey day posts here on du

not trying to make a profound social statement.
i was just startled by my own inconsistency on this

will not his the stores
but i will hit the buffet


more laughing at myself

[Mugu]

36. For those of us that have no family,

it makes that much more lonely.

[randome]

39. Here. Have a couple drumsticks on me.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[FLPanhandle]

38. I'm in the middle of a business trip

I'm depending on a restaurant to be open.