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malaise

(269,050 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:52 AM Nov 2015

How are Americans more afraid of brown 'terrorists'

than they are of home grown assassins with guns in malls, schools, cinemas, and other public places.
Why aren't they more afraid of the white militia and the KKK - something is wrong with this story because the statistics show the real problem.

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brush

(53,787 posts)
1. Agreed! And I have to say, cops are always pofiling black guys but the shooters . . .
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:58 AM
Nov 2015

at schools, malls, churches and theaters are almost always young white guys.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. That's because mass killings are actually quite rare.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:09 PM
Nov 2015

Not as rare as terrorist acts (in the US), but still quite rare. Non-mass-killings, on the other hand, are (horrifically) NOT rare...and young black men are considerably over-represented in these crimes, both as shooters AND as victims. They are probably our largest "at risk" community.

Personally, I don't think that this remotely justifies the actions of the police in far too many incidents. Profiling has led to the deaths of innocents.

brush

(53,787 posts)
7. Black killers kill mostly other blacks and white killers kill mostly other whites
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:26 PM
Nov 2015

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It's all about proximity. Criminals prey on those closest to them so please let's not go to the tiresome diversionary tactic of "but what about all that black-on-black crime" to change the subject away from racism all that "white-on-white crime of the white mass murderers.

And mass killings are not rare at all anymore. We're averaging 3-4 a week now if you haven't heard, and most of those are done by young white guys.

But let's get back to the point of killings in black communities. The overwhelming majority of those killings are drug related. People get involved in the drug trade because there are no other opportunities available to them.

And why is that? We all know the reason for that, or if you're on this board, should know. It's societal racism. It's been verify countless times that qualified, black job candidates are consistently passed up for white candidates who often have lesser qualifications.

Resumes with black-sounding names are routinely tossed in the "round file".

My point is, people are not going to starve. If they can't get a job, they will turn to whatever they can to get money to survive.

It's not brain surgery. No, better make that it's not "rocket science" because of the Ben Carson effect.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
11. I absolutely agree, re: socio-economic causes.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

If you place people in a "no (legal) hope" situation, they'll seek extra-legal ways out of that situation. We won't see a meaningful reduction in homicides for blacks (victims and killers) until we start seeing genuinely equal opportunity (and an end to Drug War idiocy). There are some other issues, but economic justice is the first step towards solving any of them.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
2. Because they're foreign, exotic, unknown
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:02 AM
Nov 2015

As strange as it sounds, a lot of Americans will have a less visceral reaction to a white psycho with a gun or a bomb than a Muslim doing the same thing.

Even though they want to kill 'us', at least they aren't a foreigner, an invader, a killer in service of some foreign god or country.

Because the white school shooter is 'us', there must be some sort of additional circumstance beyond his control; mental illness, unemployment, exclusion. Read the manifestos of Islamic terrorists and read the manifestos of mass shooters, you will see parallels... narcisstic rage, entitlement complexes, rage against the collective, etc.

And this is what white privilege gets us, we get shot at and we make excuses for the killer.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. Because we refuse to accept that a terrorist can look just like us.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:04 AM
Nov 2015

Or worship like us.
White privilege is a hated term here, but it is real, and it colors our view of he world when we refuse to recognize it.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
4. Because Brown people are supposed to be submissive.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:38 AM
Nov 2015

It's the same psychology that went into putting down slave rebellions. If white people let one brown person get away with rebellion, sooner or later you'll see the rest of the brown people rebel. Therefore, attacks by brown people should be brutally suppressed or the entire social order is in danger of being upturned. White terrorists aren't the existential threat to the established order that brown terrorists are.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. This is a "lesson" that comes through from the days of
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

slavery and jim crow. Slave owners feared their slaves from the start and it has carried through to the rest of the country from then on.

And I do not know how to change it. I know that in my own family it started to change as far back as the 20s but maybe we learned because we had a lot of mental illness in our family and our own community also feared us. To the point we were shunned and eventually institutionalized.

Runningdawg

(4,517 posts)
9. This country was born hating brown
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:36 PM
Nov 2015

The fear and death of brown people began with the Native Americans. In OK we have all shades of brown people, our own and many from countries. So many, most can't be bothered to differentiate in their attacks. If its brown, it will fit your agenda.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. Probably because vastly more Americans have been killed by Islamic terrorists this century
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:50 PM
Nov 2015

than by mass shootings.

553 people have been killed by US mass shootings since 1982: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

while 2977 people were killed on 9/11 alone.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. It's the core of racism that is endemic
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:18 PM
Nov 2015

in the United States. It affects a sizable percentage of the population, unfortunately.

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