Yes, we really are in danger.

[kpete]

Speaking to MSNBC on Saturday morning, Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings was asked to discuss the growing anxiety over Syrian refugees entering the United States, purportedly over concerns they could be potential agents for militant groups such as ISIS. Rawlings staunchly rejected the assertion that Syrians are somehow uniquely prone to violence, saying he is more concerned with the rise of white supremacy and the recent flurry of mass shootings committed by white men.

“I am more fearful of large gatherings of white men that come into schools, theaters and shoot people up, but we don’t isolate young white men on this issue,” Rawlings said.


Yes, we really are in danger

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/yes-we-really-are-in-danger.html
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/11/23/3725109/dallas-mayor-syrian-refugees-white-supremacists/

[Buzz Clik]

1. Does that statistic include people killed by the police?

[yurbud]

5. and domestic abuse, drunken fights, and idiots using or storing their guns unsafely

[Buzz Clik]

6. Are you answering "yes plus others" or extending my question?

[yurbud]

7. just guessing at the possible answer

[Buzz Clik]

9. Ok. This is part of the answer:

1 in 13 people killed by guns are killed by police

America's law enforcement officers have shot and killed upwards of 385 people so far this year, according to a new Washington Post investigation. That's a rate of about 1 every 9 hours, or 2.5 shootings per day. That's a lot compared to other countries -- cops in Germany killed only 8 people in 2013-2014, for instance. British police didn't kill anyone last year.

Through June 1, there have been 5,099 gun deaths in the U.S., according to up-to-date numbers maintained by the Gun Violence Archive. Based on the 385 figure, that means that American police are responsible for about 1 in every 13 non-suicide gun deaths in the country, or 8 percent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/01/police-commit-1-in-13-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

[tecelote]

2. Certainly shows how far off our priorities are.

And, how what influences our politicians is not doing what is moral and ethical. They have other motivations.

[elmac]

3. Death by terrorist attacks in the US compared to

More than 480,000 deaths annually from Cigarette smoking, 42,624 motor vehicles deaths per year, Deaths by poisoning 38,851, deaths by falling 30,208, gun related deaths 12,569.

[MrMickeysMom]

4. HUGE K&R for whom the REAL terrorists are!

[ileus]

8. And now you know why I carry.

Safety first, willing easy victim later...

[AZ Progressive]

10. We don't need radical islamic terrorism, we already have continual terrorism in the U.S.

[ananda]

11. Great chart!

Already on my FB page.

[Paper Roses]

12. Sigh....How far we have fallen. n/t

[Duval]

13. K&R

[niyad]

14. wow.. a texas mayor said that???

[beevul]

15. 2/3 of those are suicides.

Not exactly 'terrorism'.

[Dont call me Shirley]

17. Rising suicide rates really are a type of terrorism, not by the suicide victim but by those who

are driving people to suicide. Creating desperation, fear, hopelessness and despair is terrorism!

[beevul]

23. So a girl breaks up with her boyfriend and he commits suicide...

So a girl breaks up with her boyfriend and he commits suicide, and shes a terrorist for it?


I can't buy into that theory, sorry.

[Dont call me Shirley]

29. Missed my point. I'm talking about the oligarchy who is using economic terrorism and social

engineering to drive people into desperation.

[Utopian Leftist]

16. A scary proposition, worth considering

As much as I am in favor of gun control, I think it behooves us all to consider the following:

Does anyone want to see an America where only the right-wingers own guns?

I don't own a gun, myself. Being a relative pacifist, I do not envision a future in which I would ever purchase one. Assuming the majority of Democrats feel similarly, what is honestly to stop the "right" from committing treason on a massive scale other than their own stupidity and inability to cooperate?

Ever hear the song by the Charlie Daniels Band, about how the South is going to rise again? There are millions down there who still believe that crap.

All the more reason why we need a federal solution to the gun crisis of this country. And SOON, before they realize the only thing they have in abundance, which we generally lack, are MUNITIONS!

[LiberalElite]

18. Yep. The PTB wants us

to get all skeered and worried and anxious and 9 times out of 10 this is without an actual threat or "chatter" about an attack. Meanwhile at any time some gun humper with a grudge can shoot up a church, a theater, a mall, a school, a workplace. This can happen any day of the week anywhere in America.

[Unknown Beatle]

19. Imagine every single person

in Corpus Christi, TX murdered by guns.

Corpus Christi population as of 2013 = 316,381

Americans killed by guns 2004 - 2013 = 316,545

That's a whole city's worth of gun deaths in the US.

[hack89]

21. Except two thirds of those deaths were not murders

but suicide.

[zalinda]

22. True. n/t

[joshcryer]

30. It's still messed the fuck up, though.

[hack89]

31. Our mental health system is a disaster

and you have to believe that there are ways to keep guns out of the hands of suicidal people. Perhaps a database where mental health care professionals can report patients that are a danger to themselves or others.

[joshcryer]

32. I'm not really talking about suicidal people.

I'm talking about street reprisal warfare, police killings, etc.

But you're not wrong, a good chunk of the not 1/3rd are also murder suicides, which fall under mental health, I'm just saying.

I think there needs to be a mental health registry for gun ownership (I'm not saying have everyone evaluated, I'm saying everyone who's been evaluated needs to raise a red flag somewhere; you don't get to the evaluation stage unless you have done some non-gun related shit, but if you get there, you can still buy a gun; make it so it's harder to buy a gun if red flags are raised).

[Logical]

33. Suicides should not be in that chart. nt

[spanone]

20. K&R...

[Initech]

24. I really don't want to use the "g" word, but when does it become that?

315,000 deaths by guns in 10 years? How many more does it take before the UN does something about it?

[hack89]

25. The UN has no say in the matter

nor should they. The Constitution and U.S. domestic laws are what count.

[TeddyR]

27. I assume that bit about the UN

Is sarcasm.

[Thinkingabout]

26. Even after seeing a chart like this congress is still unable to pass sensible

Gun laws, we are much more protected from foreign terrorist than home grown gun violence, pathetic, just plain pathetic.

[Vinca]

28. The horrible body count in Paris is any day of the week in America.

News outlets should devote as much coverage to the carnage on our streets by Americans against Americans.

[ileus]

34. And that is why I carry, my life and family is worth it.