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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:15 AM Nov 2015

Half of white Americans now believe "discrimination against whites" is an actual problem

And 60% of the "white working class."

Even more astonishing (to me, at least), a full quarter of latinos and blacks actually agree.

In a new poll released by the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) on Tuesday, a whopping 43 percent of Americans told researchers that discrimination against whites has become as large a problem as discrimination against blacks and other minority groups. And an even bigger share of Americans — 53 percent — told pollsters American culture and “way of life” have mostly changed for the worse since 1950.

First, there are some real and large differences in the way that different groups of Americans answered those two questions up above. Half of white Americans — including 60 percent of the white working class — told researchers that discrimination against whites has become as big a problem today as discrimination against blacks and other minorities. Meanwhile, 29 percent of Latinos and 25 percent of black Americans agreed. White Americans feel put-upon and mistreated — and large shares of non-white Americans do not seem to have any knowledge of the challenges that white Americans say they face.


This is the base of the Trump voter and rise of proto-fascism in the United States in the last few years. White people frankly want a return to their romanticized vision of the white dominant past in ways that would not look unfamiliar to supporters of Hitler and Mussolini. Race has always been a zero-sum game for many American whites and periodically large numbers of whites enter into a period of full-fledged racial hysteria, even if to the rational community who can look at any number of metrics, this makes no sense. I will however say that the numbers of the white working class are particularly important because the economic insecurity of an outsourced and automated economy, the effects of which are swept under the rug by the many proponents of unrestricted globalization, are very real. I have said for a long time that if you want a stable society you have to have good paying jobs. Without those jobs, racial and religious prejudice becomes even more powerful than it usually is. That is part of what we are seeing in this recent rise of proto-fascism. It’s scary and should make us rethink a lot about the society we want to build before it’s too late.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2015/11/oh-white-people-2
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Half of white Americans now believe "discrimination against whites" is an actual problem (Original Post) phantom power Nov 2015 OP
So white folks think they are being mistreated? They are being discriminated against? leftofcool Nov 2015 #1
Trust me, it's the influence of years of AM talk radio Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #19
I don't believe it's a problem 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #2
They "now" believe it? Orrex Nov 2015 #3
Hyperbolic Godwinism pipoman Nov 2015 #4
Not really. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #9
Anyone that believes that has a problem all right, but not the one they think they have. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #5
"Meanwhile, 29 percent of Latinos and 25 percent of black Americans agreed." Android3.14 Nov 2015 #6
Those are the Clarence Thomas-Ben Carson types brush Nov 2015 #13
Duh! ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #7
Here is the link to the actual study Android3.14 Nov 2015 #8
Translation: The country is nearly 40-percent non-white, there are non-white people in jobs like.... marmar Nov 2015 #10
Perception is reality. kentuck Nov 2015 #11
That only works in a small, restricted set of directions. Igel Nov 2015 #17
Here's the data: Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #12
This is bullshit newfie11 Nov 2015 #14
K&R Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #15
Low information stupidity reigns brush Nov 2015 #16
To the Privileged, Equality feels like Discrimination. maxsolomon Nov 2015 #18
Ben Shapiro said this on his morning radio show. He think black on white racism is way up Johonny Nov 2015 #20

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
1. So white folks think they are being mistreated? They are being discriminated against?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:21 AM
Nov 2015

This isn't even worthy of a comment.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. Trust me, it's the influence of years of AM talk radio
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:40 PM
Nov 2015

Turn on your average nutbar at the local station and you'll hear that and worse...

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
3. They "now" believe it?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015

I'm surprised that it's taken so long for that stupid delusion to take hold.

I rather suspect that it's akin to the shockingly widespread bigotry and xenophobia revealed in the discussion of Syrian refugees; it was there all along but hidden beneath the surface.

brush

(53,787 posts)
13. Those are the Clarence Thomas-Ben Carson types
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:16 AM
Nov 2015

Always kissing ass and saying look at me white folks, I'm different and not like those others.

marmar

(77,081 posts)
10. Translation: The country is nearly 40-percent non-white, there are non-white people in jobs like....
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:03 AM
Nov 2015

.... president, and it's very threatening. ...... There are lots of insecure people out there.




Igel

(35,320 posts)
17. That only works in a small, restricted set of directions.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:29 PM
Nov 2015

Some perceptions must not be challenged.

Some perceptions must be challenged.

I've benefited it. I've been hurt by it.

When you reward grievances, you encourage grievance. Simple behavioral psych. Declaring that you're picked on or slighted because of racism is a good defense for everybody, if you can pull it off. And given how group boundaries are becoming more salient, more important, and more reinforced among some cohorts it's not surprising.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
12. Here's the data:
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:06 AM
Nov 2015


It's easy to see that our insanely paranoid friends on the right are driving this; and, you'd have to be insane to believe that " discrimination against whites has become as big a problem as discrimination against blacks and other minorities."

The report is an interesting read. Give it a look: http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/PRRI-AVS-2015-Web.pdf

brush

(53,787 posts)
16. Low information stupidity reigns
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:28 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Those white people who think they are discriminated against need to redirect their anger at the 1% who are off-shoring their jobs, cutting unemployment benefits and denying them single payer healthcare.

They should also look past their supposed white privilege, because they are not so fu_king privileged, and get in the game and join the fight because they are in the same boat as blacks and browns.

Of course this will never happen because they are being brainwashed 24/7 by Faux Noise and right wing radio to keep voting in the 1 percenters' puppet politicians who do their dirty work for them.

The 1 percenters don't give a sh_t about low info whites or blacks or browns, and for that matter, their bought-and-paid-for politicians either.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. To the Privileged, Equality feels like Discrimination.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:37 PM
Nov 2015

"I'm not black, but there's a lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white." - F. Zappa

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
20. Ben Shapiro said this on his morning radio show. He think black on white racism is way up
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

but white on black is way down. He blames Obama of course. Fox news destroys your brain.

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