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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Several Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Just Shot by White Supremacists in Minn
http://usuncut.com/news/breaking-several-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-just-shot-by-white-supremacists-in-minneapolis/A peaceful demonstration for Jamar Clark and Black Lives Matter exploded into violence late Monday night in Minneapolis when suspected white supremacists opened fire on the protesters.
Early reports seemed to indicate that only two had been shot, but it appears that a total of 3-5 people have been shot, though reports do vary at this time. CBS Minnesota reports three total via direct communication from the police, but the AP states five along with many other protesters via Twitter.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Oh sure, if Donald Trump says "oops! I pooped my pants!" on twitter they'll care but 4-5 black protesters getting gunned down by police or white supremacists, no one cares.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)It is unfair how the news is reported but stay calm! We've been through this time after time, nothing changes, but be calm.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Just how many members do you think are up at this hour?
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Man, I'm getting real sick of this double standard bullshit as well as the excuses the came afterwards.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)That there isn't enough outrage to suit you at two thirty in the god damned morning
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I have been flipping through the channels trying to find something but as of yet there have been no live reports.
Blame the msm not DUers.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Lots of people have to work tomorrow. Let's try to be gentle.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Why weren't the damn white people in bed??
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I doubt there were many sleeping DUers at that time...most, like myself, walked in the door from work to learn about them.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I was listening to early reports while making a supply run for work.
trumad
(41,692 posts)so you can call me with an alert.
Then again I shut my phone off when I hit the sack.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Igel
(35,320 posts)Heard about Paris on the way home from a very long day.
This broke later, as far as I'm aware. On a weeknight. Personally, I'm up at 5 a.m. to go to work on weekdays.
Difference in time the news broke. Difference in bedtimes. Why ascribe to malice what has plausible other reasons?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I only heard about this within the last hour.
Yet another reason to support Black Lives Matter.
Please understand that people do care.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)I just popped in at midnight to sign off and see the headlines or I wouldn't know about it.
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)I'm sorry you feel alone in this. That you feel no one cares.
People do care but sometimes, like myself, can't find the words to express their feelings.
I know right now my chest feels heavy, crushing in. The weight on my heart hurts. I don't understand why we do the things we do to each other.
We care. Please don't feel alone in this, we're with you.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)It feels like a punch in the gut. I am outraged, frustrated and hoping the suspects are apprehended.
Black lives do matter!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)The first thread about it is stuck at 4 votes.
I'm pissed.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)I will keep checking CNN to see if there is any news on this and will try to update you. Nothing on MSNBC, just checked.
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)came back to check through on DU - could not believe it wasn't anywhere on Greatest page since I believe it's been going on a couple of hours (not sure due to time zones). I had to go to DailyKos, and sure enough, there is a diary on it posted over two hours ago.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/23/1453749/-Two-people-shot-at-Minneapolis-4th-Precinct-Shutdown-Protest-by-Alleged-White-Supremacists
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I saw the post that had twitter feed, found nothing on the news sites so figured I'd wait to see how accurate the twitter report was.
I'd it really that outrageous to not leap at possible rumors?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I'm just hearing about it now when I got online.
CurtEastPoint
(18,650 posts)Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/23/1453749/-Two-people-shot-at-Minneapolis-4th-Precinct-Shutdown-Protest-by-Alleged-White-Supremacists
CNN with nothing - good grief. I am not sure of time zones, but hasn't this been going on a couple of hours now? And CNN with nothing?
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)Nothing about BLM and the shooting. I am behind you all by three hours, so a lot could be going on that I am not aware of.
artislife
(9,497 posts)This country....smh
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)I knew how to use it in my profile and make more people angry. Poor bug!
artislife
(9,497 posts)There are instructions there. Or got to the thread in this forum talking about how they hate the bug, the instructions are in there.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Not much information:
Police say injuries are not life threatening.
The attackers fled. No arrests had been made by midnight Monday.
The gunshot victims were taken to North Memorial Medical Center, said deputy police chief Medaria Arradondo at the scene.
Those who were shot sustained non-life-threatening injuries, Arradondo said.
http://www.startribune.com/several-people-were-shot-near-black-lives-matter-protest-site/353121881/
Fearless
(18,421 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)But the police seem to behaving badly and those assholes who shot them should be hunted down.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)MFrohike
(1,980 posts)This is the news you dread.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)blogslut
(38,002 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)The country has lost it. Trump/Cruz/etal have encouraged it. And I can't handle it.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)I expect it to get worse.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)But if he stays in this race, Donald J. Trump is going to have to campaign at some point in the state of Minnesota. I'd love to see him taken off stage at his own campaign rally in handcuffs under-arrest for inciting violence and hate-crime charges.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Or do we need more information because it was black people?
Maybe if they had all been drawing cartoons it would be easier to see...
OregonLiburl
(7 posts)There is a God because no one was killed. But seriously WTF.
I'm white and I am ashamed of my race. Jesus F****ing Christ
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)violent expulsion of a PoC journalist.
Nor has it anything to do with racist rhetoric within the GOP.
Racism has nothing to do with politics, you see? BLM is completely wrong to believe those two are connected, and now they've been shot at, their point has been disproven once more.
For those who need the disclaimer: I was being sarcastic.
The sad fact is that even Clinton had BLM protestors evicted from her campaign events. Only Senator Sanders treated them with respect, and agreed to share a stage with them.
THIS is why BLM protests: because their lives are at stake. And their lives matter.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)And Sanders was supposed to be the keynote speaker. He didn't agree to share a stage with them there.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)their say and WHY THE FUCK IS BERNIE SANDERS PART OF THIS?
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)The truth is that Westlake Center was a Sanders event. Sanders was supposed to be the keynote speaker , but he left without delivering the keynote, leaving many in the audience frustrated and angry with the BLM protesters.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:31 AM - Edit history (2)
Don't take the bait. This isn't about Clinton or Sanders - from what I can tell it's most likely a person who votes Republican (persons???) if they vote at all opening fire on black people. I'll save all other comments for the AfAm Group. There, we can avoided intraparty bickering and stay focused on the true victims. Neither Clinton nor Sanders are the victim here - don't let their most ardent supporters who think everything from the brand of half and half one puts in their coffee to whether you cut your toenails before or after your shower is about this primary battle take your focus off the issue at hand.
ETA - I started the conversation and as usual you are welcome my friend.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118733102
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)I have respected you since I got on the boards, but this is an outright lie.
One, I remember this day because it was my birthday and I was in Seattle for the whole day.
He was a speaker at a Medicare Event in Westlake who was invited after the event was established.
He had a pay to meet event in Capital Hill
Then he met with 12,000 of us in the U district.
Yes, when it became his turn to speak BLM came up on stage. He stepped aside. The crowd wasn't pleased. He eventually realized they were not going to let him speak. He didn't force them off the stage.n The crowd was frustrated before he left.
The Medicare Rally dispersed. He went to his preplanned event in Capital Hill
People here b*tch about RW memes and propaganda, but the h supporters untruths and postings are far worse in my eyes..
bravenak
(34,648 posts)questionseverything
(9,656 posts)Star Member pnwmom (65,069 posts)
36. Senator Sanders left the Westlake event in Seattle because the BLM protestors was there.
And Sanders was supposed to be the keynote speaker. He didn't agree to share a stage with them there.
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sanders left because it became apparent blm was not going to let him speak and he had another gig
he did let them speak wether that is "agreeing" to share the stage or not
i too am disappointed with the untruths
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Should he have shouted over the protesters or had them arrested like Hillary did at her event?
And then you'd all be yammering about what a brute he was.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)That's what I meant. It wasn't just about one day - the man is a class act every day.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)But that's OK, 'cause she also included some whitesplaining:
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I would not have known. Thanks
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)silenttigersong
(957 posts)^^Much
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)to talk about it.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Since we don't know anything about the suspects yet, it is likely they will be similar to the previous terrorist shooters who could pass through any proposed gun control laws.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)happen with Trump demigoding. WTF!!!???
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We don't need Middle Eastern terrorists. We've got white supremacists all over the place.
CountAllVotes
(20,875 posts)N/T
& recommend!!
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Hope everyone is okay. Stay safe.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Although there MAY have been a rise in violent crime after Ferguson (not confirmed), violent crime rates nationwide have been declining for the past generation.
And now we're paying real attention to crime on black people, which is causing some backlash. (BTW, no BLM people were killed or really seriously injured tonight.)
For stirring that backlash up, we should blame the GOP candidates who have been cynically equating BLM WITH INCREASED crime and attacks on police officers to whomp up anxiety among conservative voters. Chris Christie has been blaming Obama and BLM for attacks on police (including claims of "hunting" of police officers, which has not occurred). Also Cruz. And Trump wants to "give power back to the police because crime is rampant."
They'll find these shooters in all likelihood, and they'll go to jail, but the really big crimes are being committed by conservative leaders who should be sent home permanently by the voters.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)That is THOSE people - not elected and trying to be elected Democratic officials /representatives who are the problem here.
malaise
(269,054 posts)CNN and GEM$NBComcast are too busy covering anything but American news
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)Scum.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Obviously they are not too bright.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)iwillalwayswonderwhy
(2,602 posts)Masked cowards
Stuart G
(38,434 posts)kentuck
(111,103 posts)Crazy white people!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)many years of our politicians' public hateful, racist and bigoted behavior, including dog whistles. Instead of publically condemning bigoted behavior, they cater to it even nurturing it, ho'ing for those votes. It is absolutely disgusting. No political party can claim innocence.
Divide and conquer is the name of that game. Appeal to that troglodyte brain and you increase the odds of winning votes, tv ratings, ad revenue, donations, power over all. A 1%'ers wet dream.
If no one tells a bully to stand down, why would that bully think the behavior is unacceptable in civilized society? They will more than likely continue bullying even taking it up a notch.
Pssst.....it happens to anyone or any group categorized as "the other".
So sick of blind hatefulness......
Happy fucking holidays.
d_r
(6,907 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)and spend the rest of their lives in jail!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I am not surprised this happened at some point, but I'm horrified, and i am surprised it doesn't seem to be a bigger news deal than it is. When BLM protestors annoy or inconvenience people, it gets more attention than when they're shot.
Edited out some of this because I had assumed people had died. I have had some family issues to deal with this morning and hadn't heard much about this. I'm so glad no one has died. It's still heartbreaking but at least the families won't be celebrating Thanksgiving with that level of grief.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Did one of the victims die?
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I'm surprised you saw the pre-edited version when I edited a little while before your reply.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Very glad to hear no one has died.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I believe Republican rhetoric and the media are equally responsible for its fruition. They must be beaming this morning. I expect more outbreaks like this to occur in our immediate future. This country is ripe for it.
Peace and safety to my AA friends.
ananda
(28,866 posts)Idiot Gopers are worried about immigrants while our own crazed
white men are shooting people every damm day.
This society is just so so sick!
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)It's terrorism when the white people get scared. Black America just doesn't matter to White America.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)wtf
annabanana
(52,791 posts)of this hugely disturbing news.
It looks like it's up to the "internets" to hold it and remember, for when there is breathing room on the big screens...
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Rather creative allegations, yet lacking any objective evidence.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Are you saying that the people in the hospitals are faking it?
Are you saying that the witnesses on the live stream were reading from script?
Are you saying that the protesters are all actors?
Is this what right wing whites are now convincing themselves of to escape the reality of this racist attack on unarmed black protesters?
...Wow, You're an idiot.
The unarmed protesters who got shot would be the anti-war protesters in your scenario, so not only are you calling the victims violent for being unarmed and getting shot but you're saying that the victims are part of a Nixonian conspiracy to ...get shot for being unarmed and simply protesting the death of a man who was also unarmed?
Wow!
Either you glossed over what happened here and this is some sort of knee jerk post or your mind is so warped that you are unable to grasp historical events, present events, unable to understand victim from assailant and everything in your mind is one big swirling conspiracy soup.
It must be hell to be trapped in a mind like that.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Can you list the leaders? Who is providing the funds?
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)I cannot follow your train of thought here, first you call the shooting a "staged event", claimed the unarmed protesters and victims of this shooting are part of a massive Nixon-like conspiracy, now you're asking for an address for movement that started out as a hashtag on twitter?
You're all over the place and I cannot follow what you're trying to get at here, like I said before you're conflating historical events, present events, groups, movements, etc into one big swirling conspiracy soup which makes me think that either you're trolling or suffering from sort of mental illness.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)dirty trick operation. Yes when did a hashtag become an organization? and if you go see how this is being played on the most right wing sites, you will read about how those protesters attacked the white guys with guns, kind of like that Trump thing, the black guy according to them invited the attack.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)First you claim that the whole thing was "staged event" and now you're saying that incident did happen but the protesters were armed and you're also trying to connect this with "the Trump thing".
I don't believe you're trolling, you seem to strongly believe in what you're saying but the problem is its so disjointed and all over the place, its hard to really follow. I don't know if you've ever been diagnosed with schizophrenia but you may want to seek treatment.
I thought I would try to at least try to make sense of what exactly you were trying to get at but I can't continue to have dialog with you. Its just a fruitless effort.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)I think you might be lost.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)You know what, I'm going to just stfu and just say I feel sorry for you.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Guess what? No centralization.
Took some getting used to but I sorta like it that way.
No head to cut off. Step on one, 500 more take it's place.
Makes it hard to stifle protest.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)If there is no organization it is support for my claim they are a political action operation with secret funding.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)and I don't give a flying fuck how that message gets out.
Black people don't give a flying fuck how the message gets out, just stop the OBVIOUS death by racial inequality!
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)is why they evaporated into air.
It is shamefully easy to manipulate the masses.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)
I hear what you're font is trying to sell but it doesn't mean I have to buy it.
Manipulated is the state we find ourselves in NOW.
lindy1011
(2 posts)I can not wrap my head around the senseless act.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)on Thomm Hartman.
These guys are whacked out self important racists gun nuts. I guess there is video also.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)The home grown kind
Bucky
(54,026 posts)Oh yeah... him
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)The arrestee has not been identified, but is a white man from Bloomington, MN.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Minneapolis police said in a statement that the suspect, who was not identified, was arrested in the Minneapolis suburb of Bloomington. The police also said the search for additional suspects continues.
Police had previously said they were looking for three white male suspects in the shooting late on Monday. It occurred a block from the police station where protests have been held since the fatal Nov. 15 shooting of Jamar Clark, 24, Minneapolis police said in a statement.
None of the injuries in the Monday shooting were believed to be life-threatening and the wounded were taken to local hospitals.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-usa-race-minnesota-idUSKBN0TD1XG20151124
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Isn't that the idea?
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Notice the orange box under the Justice4Jamar sign?
It almost looked like he was trying to plant it but in the other videos you'll see that he took it away when protesters noticed them.
I wonder what was in the box.
Video #1 from twitter: https://twitter.com/WedgeLIVE/status/669160633951109120
Video #2 from twitter: https://twitter.com/Kitschy_Hipster/status/669015435917004800
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)The WS movement has been given their marching orders by their Lords, the war-makers.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Contact your governor and make sure he ot she refuses to allow white men from Minneapolis into your state.
That's how it works, right?
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)You can't trust the boys in blue. The protestors should've returned fire.
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)One white guy and one Hispanic guy.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)linuxman
(2,337 posts)By the crowd first.
This could be ruled self defense.
But don't take my word for it, here's video from an eyewitness and protestor.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)if trump/cruz/ and or the rest get in. hevean help us .