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ariesgem

(1,634 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:03 AM Nov 2015

BREAKING: Several Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Just Shot by White Supremacists in Minn

http://usuncut.com/news/breaking-several-black-lives-matter-protesters-were-just-shot-by-white-supremacists-in-minneapolis/

A peaceful demonstration for Jamar Clark and Black Lives Matter exploded into violence late Monday night in Minneapolis when suspected white supremacists opened fire on the protesters.

Early reports seemed to indicate that only two had been shot, but it appears that a total of 3-5 people have been shot, though reports do vary at this time. CBS Minnesota reports three total via direct communication from the police, but the AP states five along with many other protesters via Twitter.


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BREAKING: Several Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Just Shot by White Supremacists in Minn (Original Post) ariesgem Nov 2015 OP
WTF?!?! bravenak Nov 2015 #1
That is so sad. I'll go see if CNN has any breaking news. akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #2
I've been trying to get DU'ers attention over this but no one seems to care 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #3
Don't get so angry yet, let's wait for the news! akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #7
You realize it's the middle of the night, don't you? A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #20
They sure were up when the Paris shootings happened 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #23
I find it astounding that you're outraged... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2015 #24
The Paris attacks occurred during the day and it was all over the fucking news. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #33
That was a Friday night. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #46
It was six o'clock at night! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #50
The Paris shootings occurred at around 4PM EST on a Friday. Chan790 Nov 2015 #69
Those happened in the early afternoon here in Riverside. Codeine Nov 2015 #70
Perhaps I need to give you my phone number trumad Nov 2015 #87
Bwah! cwydro Nov 2015 #94
are you sleeping now, you didn't respond snooper2 Nov 2015 #95
Up late Friday night. Igel Nov 2015 #100
It's almost Thanksgiving. I have family coming to my house. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #139
Riverside, some of us are in the night now. We don't live on this or tv roguevalley Nov 2015 #39
I'm sorry Lazy Daisy Nov 2015 #54
I am just getting up for work and this is the first headline I saw Generic Other Nov 2015 #74
What a strange thread hijack Doctor_J Nov 2015 #126
Livestream link starroute Nov 2015 #4
Nothing on CNN yet, not surprising! akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #5
We couldnt even get DU to acknowledge it. 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #6
Me too! Remember this is DU, you cannot say how you feel! akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #9
Yep, I just saw it on the FB newsfeed from US uncut Turn CO Blue Nov 2015 #14
Are you outraged that duers are making sure it's real before doing the hair on the thing? uppityperson Nov 2015 #37
951- this isn't about you or your post. Calm down. Hortensis Nov 2015 #47
Most of us were not awake at that hour. cwydro Nov 2015 #78
435am ET, CNN CurtEastPoint Nov 2015 #56
Good live thread here at DKos (link), with collection of tweets from those on ground there and BLM. Turn CO Blue Nov 2015 #8
CNN is oovering Amanpour and MSNBC has Chris Matthews on. akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #11
Jesus... artislife Nov 2015 #10
On a lighter note, you adopted the bug too! I love that bug, wish akbacchus_BC Nov 2015 #12
Go to the Bernie group artislife Nov 2015 #15
This report was updated 15 minutes ago: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #13
Thankfully no one was killed!! Fearless Nov 2015 #16
That's the only good news, but yes. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #18
Good to know they are not life threatening artislife Nov 2015 #17
I have been trying to find some live coverage but nothing so far. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #19
Terrible doesn't even cover it MFrohike Nov 2015 #21
There's going to be a shitload of racial violence with that scumbag Trump encouraging it on TV Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #22
You got that right. He's not funny. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #80
Round Up The White People billhicks76 Nov 2015 #25
round up the ass holes roguevalley Nov 2015 #40
Here's the Twitter timeline. Hashtag #4thPrecinctShutDown madfloridian Nov 2015 #26
Another local news report blogslut Nov 2015 #27
I got up for a glass of water... to this. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #28
Trump, Cruz, and the republican party are now getting people shot. Elwood P Dowd Nov 2015 #29
I know it will never happen. Chan790 Nov 2015 #71
That, unfortunately, would happen only in a rational world. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #81
A terrorist attack, so federal troops are on the ground, eh? jtuck004 Nov 2015 #30
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! OregonLiburl Nov 2015 #31
Glad no one was killed. redgreenandblue Nov 2015 #32
This has nothing to do with Donald Trump's Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #34
Senator Sanders left the Westlake event in Seattle because the BLM protestors was there. pnwmom Nov 2015 #36
he left because it wasn't his event and he didn't want a conflict. they got roguevalley Nov 2015 #42
Gee, I don't know. Except the poster I was responding to talked about Bernie Sanders. pnwmom Nov 2015 #45
From jag JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #58
Thank you, jag. pnwmom Nov 2015 #61
Stop with the lies. I cannot believe you are posting this artislife Nov 2015 #84
You do realize you just said what she said, just differently? bravenak Nov 2015 #88
um no questionseverything Nov 2015 #135
He let them have the stage, in fact he bowed his head during the moment of silence. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #43
But at his next event, he allowed them to make the first speech, remember? Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #49
And when, if ever, did Hillary evict BLM protesters? n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #55
October 30th. jeff47 Nov 2015 #75
When she sent a video and a surrogate to the Criminal Justice Forum in SC. n/t dogknob Nov 2015 #97
so giving them the stage is the same as having them dragged off? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #122
But stronger gun control wouldn't have made any difference, right? pnwmom Nov 2015 #35
Umm hmm bravenak Nov 2015 #44
Political opportunist silenttigersong Nov 2015 #48
I've always been favor of gun control. But gun proponents never think there's a good time pnwmom Nov 2015 #57
Probably not. jeff47 Nov 2015 #76
Don't think so. Should "control" start with the H.P. Newton Gun Club? Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #106
OH sweet JESUS. I am beyond words. I dreaded and feared this would roguevalley Nov 2015 #38
Horrible. Now that is a terrorist act, don't you think? JDPriestly Nov 2015 #41
+1,000 !!! CountAllVotes Nov 2015 #53
Yes. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #82
Jesus. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #51
Okay, maybe climb down off the walls a bit? Hortensis Nov 2015 #52
Thank you for pointing out JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #62
Good effin' grief malaise Nov 2015 #59
Police looking for 3 white male suspects. Solly Mack Nov 2015 #60
I really hope they find them Dorian Gray Nov 2015 #63
I think they will. 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #66
I suspect the cops won't have to search very far. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #119
What a terrible terrible thing to wake up to iwillalwayswonderwhy Nov 2015 #64
k and r Stuart G Nov 2015 #65
They have awakened a sleeping giant... kentuck Nov 2015 #67
These hateful assholes and others like them have been emboldened by nc4bo Nov 2015 #72
This is horrible news nt d_r Nov 2015 #68
Ugh. I hope they are caught TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #73
why didn't the police protect the protesters and police escort out the shooters? Sunlei Nov 2015 #77
Oh no! :( gollygee Nov 2015 #79
I didn't hear that anyone was killed? cwydro Nov 2015 #83
I edited before you replied gollygee Nov 2015 #86
I don't know; I'm going back and forth from the computer to the TV this morning. cwydro Nov 2015 #89
I'm deeply saddened to wake up to this news Oilwellian Nov 2015 #85
This society is just so so sick! ananda Nov 2015 #90
It's not terrorism when it happens to black people AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #91
How is this not branded TERRORISM? KittyWampus Nov 2015 #92
The downed Russian jet has obliterated any possible coverage annabanana Nov 2015 #93
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #96
Rather creative allegations, yet lacking any objective evidence. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #98
Are you saying black people weren't shot here? 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #99
So can you give me an addresss so I can send some money to BLM? Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #109
Unarmed protesters get shot by masked white supremacists and you're asking for addresses for BLM? 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #115
I'm not following your line of thought either, I did not claim "massive conspiracy, I said political Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #128
Sorry but you're all over the place. People can read for themselves what you said 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #131
. bravenak Nov 2015 #132
Um what? mythology Nov 2015 #103
You have got to be kidding me with this crazy shit.......... nc4bo Nov 2015 #108
Send me an address for them I'll send them a check. BLM I mean Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #110
There is no CENTRALIZATION - d'uh. OWS had NO centralization. JHC ever use torrents to dl files? nc4bo Nov 2015 #111
Who is funding them, Why no interview with the Trump protestor on television? Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #112
You just want to see things one way. This issue is of great importance to me nc4bo Nov 2015 #113
OWS also just another political operation to make hyou think something would change, that Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #129
I'd like to see how you'd react after war was declared on YOU! nc4bo Nov 2015 #138
Unbelievable. lindy1011 Nov 2015 #101
they just played the tape of the guys who did the shooting. mikeysnot Nov 2015 #102
TERRORISTS etherealtruth Nov 2015 #104
American homegrown terrorism. I wonder who egged them on in their rage? Bucky Nov 2015 #105
This just in: An arrest has been made in this case. MineralMan Nov 2015 #107
WTF! nt City Lights Nov 2015 #114
Reuters reports one suspect arrested. No link. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #116
Link here: 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #117
What White Terrorists? Octafish Nov 2015 #118
Photos and videos of the shooters 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #120
Prayers for the victims... Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #121
Close the borders Tree-Hugger Nov 2015 #123
Two arrests have been made. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #124
I'm sure the cops will get right on that. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #125
The cops have already made two arrests. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #127
Wake up, people! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #130
Seems the 3 men who shot were chased, assaulted, then chased some more linuxman Nov 2015 #133
I haven't had a chance to stop my and convey my grief. myrna minx Nov 2015 #134
i am so sick of this . not white supremicists but murderers and thugs allan01 Nov 2015 #136
Trump gave them their cue. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #137
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
3. I've been trying to get DU'ers attention over this but no one seems to care
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:06 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027376844

Oh sure, if Donald Trump says "oops! I pooped my pants!" on twitter they'll care but 4-5 black protesters getting gunned down by police or white supremacists, no one cares.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
7. Don't get so angry yet, let's wait for the news!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:12 AM
Nov 2015

It is unfair how the news is reported but stay calm! We've been through this time after time, nothing changes, but be calm.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
20. You realize it's the middle of the night, don't you?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:29 AM
Nov 2015

Just how many members do you think are up at this hour?

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
23. They sure were up when the Paris shootings happened
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:33 AM
Nov 2015

Man, I'm getting real sick of this double standard bullshit as well as the excuses the came afterwards.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
24. I find it astounding that you're outraged...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:38 AM
Nov 2015

That there isn't enough outrage to suit you at two thirty in the god damned morning

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
33. The Paris attacks occurred during the day and it was all over the fucking news.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:09 AM
Nov 2015

I have been flipping through the channels trying to find something but as of yet there have been no live reports.

Blame the msm not DUers.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
69. The Paris shootings occurred at around 4PM EST on a Friday.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:42 AM
Nov 2015

I doubt there were many sleeping DUers at that time...most, like myself, walked in the door from work to learn about them.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
70. Those happened in the early afternoon here in Riverside.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:51 AM
Nov 2015

I was listening to early reports while making a supply run for work.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
87. Perhaps I need to give you my phone number
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:11 AM
Nov 2015

so you can call me with an alert.

Then again I shut my phone off when I hit the sack.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
100. Up late Friday night.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:07 PM
Nov 2015

Heard about Paris on the way home from a very long day.

This broke later, as far as I'm aware. On a weeknight. Personally, I'm up at 5 a.m. to go to work on weekdays.

Difference in time the news broke. Difference in bedtimes. Why ascribe to malice what has plausible other reasons?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
139. It's almost Thanksgiving. I have family coming to my house.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:36 PM
Nov 2015

I only heard about this within the last hour.

Yet another reason to support Black Lives Matter.

Please understand that people do care.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
39. Riverside, some of us are in the night now. We don't live on this or tv
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:29 AM
Nov 2015

I just popped in at midnight to sign off and see the headlines or I wouldn't know about it.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
54. I'm sorry
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:18 AM
Nov 2015

I'm sorry you feel alone in this. That you feel no one cares.
People do care but sometimes, like myself, can't find the words to express their feelings.

I know right now my chest feels heavy, crushing in. The weight on my heart hurts. I don't understand why we do the things we do to each other.

We care. Please don't feel alone in this, we're with you.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
74. I am just getting up for work and this is the first headline I saw
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:04 AM
Nov 2015

It feels like a punch in the gut. I am outraged, frustrated and hoping the suspects are apprehended.

Black lives do matter!

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
9. Me too! Remember this is DU, you cannot say how you feel!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:14 AM
Nov 2015

I will keep checking CNN to see if there is any news on this and will try to update you. Nothing on MSNBC, just checked.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
14. Yep, I just saw it on the FB newsfeed from US uncut
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:26 AM
Nov 2015

came back to check through on DU - could not believe it wasn't anywhere on Greatest page since I believe it's been going on a couple of hours (not sure due to time zones). I had to go to DailyKos, and sure enough, there is a diary on it posted over two hours ago.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/23/1453749/-Two-people-shot-at-Minneapolis-4th-Precinct-Shutdown-Protest-by-Alleged-White-Supremacists

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
37. Are you outraged that duers are making sure it's real before doing the hair on the thing?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:21 AM
Nov 2015

I saw the post that had twitter feed, found nothing on the news sites so figured I'd wait to see how accurate the twitter report was.

I'd it really that outrageous to not leap at possible rumors?

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
8. Good live thread here at DKos (link), with collection of tweets from those on ground there and BLM.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:13 AM
Nov 2015

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/23/1453749/-Two-people-shot-at-Minneapolis-4th-Precinct-Shutdown-Protest-by-Alleged-White-Supremacists


CNN with nothing - good grief. I am not sure of time zones, but hasn't this been going on a couple of hours now? And CNN with nothing?

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
11. CNN is oovering Amanpour and MSNBC has Chris Matthews on.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:18 AM
Nov 2015

Nothing about BLM and the shooting. I am behind you all by three hours, so a lot could be going on that I am not aware of.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
12. On a lighter note, you adopted the bug too! I love that bug, wish
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:21 AM
Nov 2015

I knew how to use it in my profile and make more people angry. Poor bug!

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. Go to the Bernie group
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:27 AM
Nov 2015

There are instructions there. Or got to the thread in this forum talking about how they hate the bug, the instructions are in there.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. This report was updated 15 minutes ago:
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:23 AM
Nov 2015

Not much information:

Five people were shot near Black Lives Matter protest site
Police say injuries are not life threatening.

The attackers fled. No arrests had been made by midnight Monday.

The gunshot victims were taken to North Memorial Medical Center, said deputy police chief Medaria Arradondo at the scene.

Those who were shot sustained non-life-threatening injuries, Arradondo said.

http://www.startribune.com/several-people-were-shot-near-black-lives-matter-protest-site/353121881/
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
17. Good to know they are not life threatening
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:28 AM
Nov 2015

But the police seem to behaving badly and those assholes who shot them should be hunted down.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
28. I got up for a glass of water... to this.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:48 AM
Nov 2015

The country has lost it. Trump/Cruz/etal have encouraged it. And I can't handle it.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
71. I know it will never happen.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:52 AM
Nov 2015

But if he stays in this race, Donald J. Trump is going to have to campaign at some point in the state of Minnesota. I'd love to see him taken off stage at his own campaign rally in handcuffs under-arrest for inciting violence and hate-crime charges.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
30. A terrorist attack, so federal troops are on the ground, eh?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:03 AM
Nov 2015

Or do we need more information because it was black people?

Maybe if they had all been drawing cartoons it would be easier to see...

OregonLiburl

(7 posts)
31. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:06 AM
Nov 2015

There is a God because no one was killed. But seriously WTF.
I'm white and I am ashamed of my race. Jesus F****ing Christ

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
34. This has nothing to do with Donald Trump's
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:16 AM
Nov 2015

violent expulsion of a PoC journalist.

Nor has it anything to do with racist rhetoric within the GOP.

Racism has nothing to do with politics, you see? BLM is completely wrong to believe those two are connected, and now they've been shot at, their point has been disproven once more.

For those who need the disclaimer: I was being sarcastic.

The sad fact is that even Clinton had BLM protestors evicted from her campaign events. Only Senator Sanders treated them with respect, and agreed to share a stage with them.

THIS is why BLM protests: because their lives are at stake. And their lives matter.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
36. Senator Sanders left the Westlake event in Seattle because the BLM protestors was there.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:21 AM
Nov 2015

And Sanders was supposed to be the keynote speaker. He didn't agree to share a stage with them there.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
42. he left because it wasn't his event and he didn't want a conflict. they got
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:33 AM
Nov 2015

their say and WHY THE FUCK IS BERNIE SANDERS PART OF THIS?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
45. Gee, I don't know. Except the poster I was responding to talked about Bernie Sanders.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:46 AM
Nov 2015


The sad fact is that even Clinton had BLM protestors evicted from her campaign events. Only Senator Sanders treated them with respect, and agreed to share a stage with them.


The truth is that Westlake Center was a Sanders event. Sanders was supposed to be the keynote speaker , but he left without delivering the keynote, leaving many in the audience frustrated and angry with the BLM protesters.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
58. From jag
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:55 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:31 AM - Edit history (2)

Don't take the bait. This isn't about Clinton or Sanders - from what I can tell it's most likely a person who votes Republican (persons???) if they vote at all opening fire on black people. I'll save all other comments for the AfAm Group. There, we can avoided intraparty bickering and stay focused on the true victims. Neither Clinton nor Sanders are the victim here - don't let their most ardent supporters who think everything from the brand of half and half one puts in their coffee to whether you cut your toenails before or after your shower is about this primary battle take your focus off the issue at hand.

ETA - I started the conversation and as usual you are welcome my friend.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118733102


 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
84. Stop with the lies. I cannot believe you are posting this
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:09 AM
Nov 2015

I have respected you since I got on the boards, but this is an outright lie.

One, I remember this day because it was my birthday and I was in Seattle for the whole day.

He was a speaker at a Medicare Event in Westlake who was invited after the event was established.

He had a pay to meet event in Capital Hill

Then he met with 12,000 of us in the U district.

Yes, when it became his turn to speak BLM came up on stage. He stepped aside. The crowd wasn't pleased. He eventually realized they were not going to let him speak. He didn't force them off the stage.n The crowd was frustrated before he left.

The Medicare Rally dispersed. He went to his preplanned event in Capital Hill


People here b*tch about RW memes and propaganda, but the h supporters untruths and postings are far worse in my eyes..

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
135. um no
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:45 PM
Nov 2015

Star Member pnwmom (65,069 posts)
36. Senator Sanders left the Westlake event in Seattle because the BLM protestors was there.

And Sanders was supposed to be the keynote speaker. He didn't agree to share a stage with them there.

////////////////////////

sanders left because it became apparent blm was not going to let him speak and he had another gig

he did let them speak wether that is "agreeing" to share the stage or not

i too am disappointed with the untruths

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
43. He let them have the stage, in fact he bowed his head during the moment of silence.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:34 AM
Nov 2015

Should he have shouted over the protesters or had them arrested like Hillary did at her event?

And then you'd all be yammering about what a brute he was.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
49. But at his next event, he allowed them to make the first speech, remember?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:54 AM
Nov 2015

That's what I meant. It wasn't just about one day - the man is a class act every day.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
75. October 30th.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:11 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34684809
The group of 10 Black Lives Matter protesters were quickly escorted away.


But that's OK, 'cause she also included some whitesplaining:
"I'm sorry they didn't listen, because some of what they demanded I am offering and intend to fight for as president," Mrs Clinton said.
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
122. so giving them the stage is the same as having them dragged off?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:00 PM
Nov 2015

I would not have known. Thanks

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
57. I've always been favor of gun control. But gun proponents never think there's a good time
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:36 AM
Nov 2015

to talk about it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
76. Probably not.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:12 AM
Nov 2015

Since we don't know anything about the suspects yet, it is likely they will be similar to the previous terrorist shooters who could pass through any proposed gun control laws.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
38. OH sweet JESUS. I am beyond words. I dreaded and feared this would
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:28 AM
Nov 2015

happen with Trump demigoding. WTF!!!???

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
41. Horrible. Now that is a terrorist act, don't you think?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:32 AM
Nov 2015

We don't need Middle Eastern terrorists. We've got white supremacists all over the place.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
52. Okay, maybe climb down off the walls a bit?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:10 AM
Nov 2015

Although there MAY have been a rise in violent crime after Ferguson (not confirmed), violent crime rates nationwide have been declining for the past generation.

And now we're paying real attention to crime on black people, which is causing some backlash. (BTW, no BLM people were killed or really seriously injured tonight.)

For stirring that backlash up, we should blame the GOP candidates who have been cynically equating BLM WITH INCREASED crime and attacks on police officers to whomp up anxiety among conservative voters. Chris Christie has been blaming Obama and BLM for attacks on police (including claims of "hunting" of police officers, which has not occurred). Also Cruz. And Trump wants to "give power back to the police because crime is rampant."

They'll find these shooters in all likelihood, and they'll go to jail, but the really big crimes are being committed by conservative leaders who should be sent home permanently by the voters.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
62. Thank you for pointing out
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:57 AM
Nov 2015

That is THOSE people - not elected and trying to be elected Democratic officials /representatives who are the problem here.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
72. These hateful assholes and others like them have been emboldened by
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:24 AM
Nov 2015

many years of our politicians' public hateful, racist and bigoted behavior, including dog whistles. Instead of publically condemning bigoted behavior, they cater to it even nurturing it, ho'ing for those votes. It is absolutely disgusting. No political party can claim innocence.

Divide and conquer is the name of that game. Appeal to that troglodyte brain and you increase the odds of winning votes, tv ratings, ad revenue, donations, power over all. A 1%'ers wet dream.

If no one tells a bully to stand down, why would that bully think the behavior is unacceptable in civilized society? They will more than likely continue bullying even taking it up a notch.

Pssst.....it happens to anyone or any group categorized as "the other".

So sick of blind hatefulness......

Happy fucking holidays.





gollygee

(22,336 posts)
79. Oh no! :(
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:55 AM
Nov 2015

I am not surprised this happened at some point, but I'm horrified, and i am surprised it doesn't seem to be a bigger news deal than it is. When BLM protestors annoy or inconvenience people, it gets more attention than when they're shot.



Edited out some of this because I had assumed people had died. I have had some family issues to deal with this morning and hadn't heard much about this. I'm so glad no one has died. It's still heartbreaking but at least the families won't be celebrating Thanksgiving with that level of grief.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
86. I edited before you replied
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:11 AM
Nov 2015

I'm surprised you saw the pre-edited version when I edited a little while before your reply.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
89. I don't know; I'm going back and forth from the computer to the TV this morning.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:27 AM
Nov 2015

Very glad to hear no one has died.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
85. I'm deeply saddened to wake up to this news
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:09 AM
Nov 2015

I believe Republican rhetoric and the media are equally responsible for its fruition. They must be beaming this morning. I expect more outbreaks like this to occur in our immediate future. This country is ripe for it.

Peace and safety to my AA friends.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
90. This society is just so so sick!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:45 AM
Nov 2015

Idiot Gopers are worried about immigrants while our own crazed
white men are shooting people every damm day.

This society is just so so sick!

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
91. It's not terrorism when it happens to black people
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:49 AM
Nov 2015

It's terrorism when the white people get scared. Black America just doesn't matter to White America.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
93. The downed Russian jet has obliterated any possible coverage
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 11:55 AM
Nov 2015

of this hugely disturbing news.

It looks like it's up to the "internets" to hold it and remember, for when there is breathing room on the big screens...

Response to ariesgem (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
98. Rather creative allegations, yet lacking any objective evidence.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:42 PM
Nov 2015

Rather creative allegations, yet lacking any objective evidence.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
99. Are you saying black people weren't shot here?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:45 PM
Nov 2015
Don't fall for this, it is a staged and planned event


Are you saying that the people in the hospitals are faking it?

Are you saying that the witnesses on the live stream were reading from script?

Are you saying that the protesters are all actors?

Is this what right wing whites are now convincing themselves of to escape the reality of this racist attack on unarmed black protesters?

There is no organization called Black Lives Matter. It is a dirty tricks political operation.


...Wow, You're an idiot.

Very like when the Nixon team hired "violent" anti-war protesters to disrupt his campaign speeches way back when.


The unarmed protesters who got shot would be the anti-war protesters in your scenario, so not only are you calling the victims violent for being unarmed and getting shot but you're saying that the victims are part of a Nixonian conspiracy to ...get shot for being unarmed and simply protesting the death of a man who was also unarmed?

Wow!

Either you glossed over what happened here and this is some sort of knee jerk post or your mind is so warped that you are unable to grasp historical events, present events, unable to understand victim from assailant and everything in your mind is one big swirling conspiracy soup.

It must be hell to be trapped in a mind like that.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
109. So can you give me an addresss so I can send some money to BLM?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

Can you list the leaders? Who is providing the funds?

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
115. Unarmed protesters get shot by masked white supremacists and you're asking for addresses for BLM?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:35 PM
Nov 2015

I cannot follow your train of thought here, first you call the shooting a "staged event", claimed the unarmed protesters and victims of this shooting are part of a massive Nixon-like conspiracy, now you're asking for an address for movement that started out as a hashtag on twitter?

You're all over the place and I cannot follow what you're trying to get at here, like I said before you're conflating historical events, present events, groups, movements, etc into one big swirling conspiracy soup which makes me think that either you're trolling or suffering from sort of mental illness.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
128. I'm not following your line of thought either, I did not claim "massive conspiracy, I said political
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

dirty trick operation. Yes when did a hashtag become an organization? and if you go see how this is being played on the most right wing sites, you will read about how those protesters attacked the white guys with guns, kind of like that Trump thing, the black guy according to them invited the attack.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
131. Sorry but you're all over the place. People can read for themselves what you said
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:19 PM
Nov 2015

First you claim that the whole thing was "staged event" and now you're saying that incident did happen but the protesters were armed and you're also trying to connect this with "the Trump thing".

I don't believe you're trolling, you seem to strongly believe in what you're saying but the problem is its so disjointed and all over the place, its hard to really follow. I don't know if you've ever been diagnosed with schizophrenia but you may want to seek treatment.

I thought I would try to at least try to make sense of what exactly you were trying to get at but I can't continue to have dialog with you. Its just a fruitless effort.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
108. You have got to be kidding me with this crazy shit..........
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:08 PM
Nov 2015

You know what, I'm going to just stfu and just say I feel sorry for you.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
111. There is no CENTRALIZATION - d'uh. OWS had NO centralization. JHC ever use torrents to dl files?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

Guess what? No centralization.

Took some getting used to but I sorta like it that way.

No head to cut off. Step on one, 500 more take it's place.

Makes it hard to stifle protest.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
112. Who is funding them, Why no interview with the Trump protestor on television?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:23 PM
Nov 2015

If there is no organization it is support for my claim they are a political action operation with secret funding.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
113. You just want to see things one way. This issue is of great importance to me
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

and I don't give a flying fuck how that message gets out.

Black people don't give a flying fuck how the message gets out, just stop the OBVIOUS death by racial inequality!

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
129. OWS also just another political operation to make hyou think something would change, that
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:58 PM
Nov 2015

is why they evaporated into air.

It is shamefully easy to manipulate the masses.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
138. I'd like to see how you'd react after war was declared on YOU!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:11 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)

I hear what you're font is trying to sell but it doesn't mean I have to buy it.

Manipulated is the state we find ourselves in NOW.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
102. they just played the tape of the guys who did the shooting.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:18 PM
Nov 2015

on Thomm Hartman.

These guys are whacked out self important racists gun nuts. I guess there is video also.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
107. This just in: An arrest has been made in this case.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:06 PM
Nov 2015

The arrestee has not been identified, but is a white man from Bloomington, MN.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
117. Link here:
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015
Minneapolis police said on Tuesday they have arrested a 23-year-old white man in relation to the shooting of five people near a city police station where demonstrators have gathered for more than a week to protest the killing of an unarmed black man by officers.

Minneapolis police said in a statement that the suspect, who was not identified, was arrested in the Minneapolis suburb of Bloomington. The police also said the search for additional suspects continues.

Police had previously said they were looking for three white male suspects in the shooting late on Monday. It occurred a block from the police station where protests have been held since the fatal Nov. 15 shooting of Jamar Clark, 24, Minneapolis police said in a statement.

None of the injuries in the Monday shooting were believed to be life-threatening and the wounded were taken to local hospitals.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-usa-race-minnesota-idUSKBN0TD1XG20151124
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
120. Photos and videos of the shooters
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:52 PM
Nov 2015




Notice the orange box under the Justice4Jamar sign?

It almost looked like he was trying to plant it but in the other videos you'll see that he took it away when protesters noticed them.

I wonder what was in the box.

Video #1 from twitter: https://twitter.com/WedgeLIVE/status/669160633951109120
Video #2 from twitter: https://twitter.com/Kitschy_Hipster/status/669015435917004800

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
121. Prayers for the victims...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:53 PM
Nov 2015


The WS movement has been given their marching orders by their Lords, the war-makers.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
123. Close the borders
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:06 PM
Nov 2015

Contact your governor and make sure he ot she refuses to allow white men from Minneapolis into your state.

That's how it works, right?

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
125. I'm sure the cops will get right on that.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:21 PM
Nov 2015

You can't trust the boys in blue. The protestors should've returned fire.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
133. Seems the 3 men who shot were chased, assaulted, then chased some more
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nov 2015

By the crowd first.

This could be ruled self defense.

But don't take my word for it, here's video from an eyewitness and protestor.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
136. i am so sick of this . not white supremicists but murderers and thugs
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:17 PM
Nov 2015

if trump/cruz/ and or the rest get in. hevean help us .

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