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flamingdem

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 11:54 PM Nov 2015

Obama is right: Destroying Islamic State will take time and patience, not bluster (Howard Dean?)

** Howard Dean was just on Lawrence's show defending the no fly zone idea that seems poorly conceived. He claims that if they'd done it sooner 200,000 Syrians would still be alive? Kudos to Obama for his actions and inactions.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1122-mcmanus-islamic-state-strategy-20151122-column.html

President Obama is tired of all the critics who say his strategy to destroy Islamic State isn't working.

"The only thing that they're doing is talking as if they're tough," he complained last week. "If folks want to pop off and have opinions about what they think they would do, [they should] present a specific plan."

What the rest of us need, Obama counseled, is more patience. "It's going to take time," he said.
The Paris attacks have clearly put the debate over Islamic State and Syria in a higher gear, inside the administration as well as in the presidential campaign. -

But the Nov. 13 terrorist attacks in Paris made it hard to be patient, especially for presidential candidates, who quickly produced a flurry of hawkish proposals.

Jeb Bush said he would send U.S. ground troops into Syria to help local forces oust Islamic State from its capital of Raqqah, a measure Obama has ruled out.

Hillary Clinton called for establishing "no-fly zones" and "safe areas" in northern Syria, which she diplomatically called "an intensification" of Obama's policy. (Obama has called both ideas impractical.)

Marco Rubio has released ideas similar to Clinton's, an unusual — and unintended — case of bipartisan convergence.

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Obama is right: Destroying Islamic State will take time and patience, not bluster (Howard Dean?) (Original Post) flamingdem Nov 2015 OP
And Talk About Inappropriate, How About Rubio Needing to Humiliate! The Roux Comes First Nov 2015 #1

The Roux Comes First

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1. And Talk About Inappropriate, How About Rubio Needing to Humiliate!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:27 AM
Nov 2015

I don't want to play pop psychologist, but that certainly reeks of an inferiority complex and re-affirms his absolute ignorance of foreign policy or even just the basics of how to deal with your own species.

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