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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:50 PM Nov 2015

Does anybody else just not watch videos when linked?

I have to admit that's true of me. I haven't watched a political video in years, literally, other than live streams of speeches and debates.

I can't stand them. They're an awful way to make an argument. You can't take each part in sequence at your own pace, looking up things as you need. You have to go at the pace the director provides. The video can't (at least not easily) link to supporting documents.

I'm the same way with "training" or "educational" videos. Unfortunately my field (information technology) has been swarmed with them. I'm looking for a particular grammatical construct in a given programming language and the first five or six Google results are inevitably Youtube videos. Don't care. Won't click on them. Not how I learn programming languages.

Anybody else have that same dislike of videos as arguments?

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Does anybody else just not watch videos when linked? (Original Post) Recursion Nov 2015 OP
+1 leftstreet Nov 2015 #1
Right there with ya, pal vanamonde Nov 2015 #2
On this, you and I agree Orrex Nov 2015 #3
Yes, yes, a very intense dislike. hunter Nov 2015 #4
....x10+ 840high Nov 2015 #30
I am with you all on this...nt monmouth4 Nov 2015 #5
Anybody else have that same dislike of videos as arguments? Hayduke Bomgarte Nov 2015 #6
Especially when there isn't even a synopsis of the video's content. arcane1 Nov 2015 #31
The only time I watch linked videos on DU kiva Nov 2015 #7
no nt Logical Nov 2015 #8
I hate it when I click on a news link, and it's a video. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #9
+1000. If I click to a video I immediately scroll down to find the text. If it petronius Nov 2015 #12
+1 one_voice Nov 2015 #29
Same here - drives me crazy! So many smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #52
I stopped clicking on any link when one crashed my laptop Pathwalker Nov 2015 #10
I don't watch them, either. I don't even watch the debates. I just want to read Nay Nov 2015 #11
I rarely watch videos. tammywammy Nov 2015 #13
I agree. I don't watch videos of speeches or news material; The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #14
I thought I was the only one! xynthee Nov 2015 #15
Me too...I like to read, and just skip videos bhikkhu Nov 2015 #16
I'm particularly insistent on text for political speeches. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #19
I usually only watch linked videos in the Lounge. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #17
Not often BainsBane Nov 2015 #18
Mostly not. malthaussen Nov 2015 #20
Nope jberryhill Nov 2015 #21
I never watch them and I wish they would post them in Video & Multimedia (Forum) TexasProgresive Nov 2015 #22
This discussion strikes me as part of the reason Conservatives dominate political media. stevenleser Nov 2015 #23
That's an interesting thought (nt) Recursion Nov 2015 #41
absolutely.... mike_c Nov 2015 #24
I can read a transcript in less time than it takes to watch a video REP Nov 2015 #25
If there's some text that accompanies/explains the video and it sounds interesting I might watch tularetom Nov 2015 #26
I have added many to my hosts file. lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #27
ME Old Codger Nov 2015 #28
I ignore videos DavidDvorkin Nov 2015 #32
You will have a very different opinion if you watch THIS video: Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #33
I never watch them for all the same reasons. Bonx Nov 2015 #34
Couldn't, even if I wanted to HeiressofBickworth Nov 2015 #35
I'm with you. n/t Mister Ed Nov 2015 #36
Never, of any kind. If I can't read it I don't want it GusBob Nov 2015 #37
I'll only watch a video if there is a kitten in it. egduj Nov 2015 #38
Waste of time and bandwidth. If it's not a music video of someone I *know* I like, or a cat ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #39
i usually don't like them as educational/informational source JI7 Nov 2015 #40
I prefer to read. It's much faster Codeine Nov 2015 #42
Sometimes I watch, depends on my mood. Other times, can't be bothered Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #43
I do not watch them. bravenak Nov 2015 #44
Foreign languages are about the only thing I find them useful for Recursion Nov 2015 #45
Exactly. Only for pronunciation. bravenak Nov 2015 #46
My favorite new language learning technique: Twitter Recursion Nov 2015 #51
I'm sure many take time to watch when they are posted by someone they respect and value. Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #47
I dislike watching videos. ladyVet Nov 2015 #48
You may have read my mind. MH1 Nov 2015 #49
This is why I prefer print journalism to tv news .... kwassa Nov 2015 #50

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
1. +1
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe I'm getting too old

I want to read a story, not watch it.

Unless it's a 'funny cats' video or something...

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
3. On this, you and I agree
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:01 PM
Nov 2015

And it's a very rare YouTube-specific video that's worth more than 2.5 minutes. Not talking about music videos, film trailers or clips from films/tv; I mean videos produced specifically for airing on YouTube.

Yes, there are exceptions, but most of the high quality original work I've seen on YouTube has recognized that brevity remains the soul of wit.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
4. Yes, yes, a very intense dislike.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:02 PM
Nov 2015

Don't waste my time with a video, especially a long video expressing some political opinion that could easily be expressed in a few short written sentences.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
6. Anybody else have that same dislike of videos as arguments?
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:08 PM
Nov 2015

I do. A captivating thread title accompanied by a video link, I just move on.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
7. The only time I watch linked videos on DU
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

or any other site is when the visual are a compelling part of the story - a wave of water washing over the roadway or a visual tour of a cathedral, something like that. OK, I did watch how to peel potatoes with a drill and toilet bowl brush, but wouldn't anyone?

I read quickly and have no patience with verbal tics like "um" and "like", so it's faster, easier, and doesn't jangle my nerves to read rather than watch.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
9. I hate it when I click on a news link, and it's a video.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015

I want to READ the story.

I am also the same way with step-by-step instructions. It's the reverse of "Don't tell me, show me." I'm perfectly happy with being told.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
12. +1000. If I click to a video I immediately scroll down to find the text. If it
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:29 PM
Nov 2015

isn't there, I go elsewhere. I want to read the article, and then--if it's a story that benefits from illustration--I'll click on a focused, specific video of the event to see imagery. But I have little interest in watching the news be read to me.

And video links posted on DU without accompanying text almost never (99%+) get a click from me. Unless it's clearly a cat video or similar, and I'm in the mood for something cute...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
52. Same here - drives me crazy! So many
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:47 PM
Nov 2015

news sights do this as well. Even the company I work at does it. It's maddening! At least now I know I'm not the only one. I thought I was unusual that way.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
10. I stopped clicking on any link when one crashed my laptop
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:23 PM
Nov 2015

My son fixed my laptop but advised me to not open any more links on DU. The poster who linked ti that malware was banned shortly after that.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
11. I don't watch them, either. I don't even watch the debates. I just want to read
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Nov 2015

transcripts. I want to be able to go backwards and forwards by eye, reread, etc. I also hate the slowness of videos; I can get the gist of an argument in text much faster than suffering through verbal mishmash.

Training videos drive me crazy, too. Hate them. Give me a well-thought-out text on the subject.

Edited to add: I love cat videos, Russian dashcam videos, etc., because these sorts of videos are not verbal and cannot be verbal.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
13. I rarely watch videos.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

I also hate when people don't even post an excerpt and just a link. Worse when it is a link Like this so you have no clue what weird website they're directing you too.

I also hate the "OMG CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT SO AND SO SAID!?!??!!" About some crap they're watching on tv with absolutely no reference.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
14. I agree. I don't watch videos of speeches or news material;
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

I want to read that sort of thing. The only videos I watch are those that have primarily visual content that can't be conveyed in writing; something arty or funny. And I never click on a link to any video where the poster hasn't described what's in it.

xynthee

(477 posts)
15. I thought I was the only one!
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

I skip any thread that doesn't have a transcript to go with the video and I won't even click on the video/multimedia threads.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
16. Me too...I like to read, and just skip videos
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:42 PM
Nov 2015

Even things like important speeches, state of the union and so forth, I do a search for a transcript.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
19. I'm particularly insistent on text for political speeches.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015

I think I got into that habit trying to be objective about W. I wanted to avoid having his stumbling delivery and smirking mug ruin my objectivity about what he was actually saying. I wanted to be able to come to a fair conclusion (which was, of course, that he was talking shit...but that's not the point!).

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
17. I usually only watch linked videos in the Lounge.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

Music videos, cat videos, fail videos, etc. Linked political videos? Never.

That carries over into my online news gathering, too: I look for text stories, not videos, when I'm looking for news. There are exceptions, such as when the story is about an incident for which there is live footage. But mostly I only look to online video for entertainment purposes.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
20. Mostly not.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

Some exceptions may apply if it is a particularly good video, or some form of entertainment. But as for news and opinion, I want to read and digest, not listen to some talking head bloviate, even when the talking head is someone I respect. I simply find speeches boring, not inspiring or valuable. Talk is cheap, and rhetoric is an art meant to appeal to the emotions, not the intellect.
And besides, I'm about totally deaf in my right ear, which means I have trouble hearing them anyway unless the volume is cranked up high.

-- Mal

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Nope
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:01 PM
Nov 2015

Reading is much faster. Posting videos as some kind of argument strikes me as a statement of "you have nothing better to do with your time."

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
22. I never watch them and I wish they would post them in Video & Multimedia (Forum)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:11 PM
Nov 2015

which I have trashed. It really pisses me off when they put them in GD.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
23. This discussion strikes me as part of the reason Conservatives dominate political media.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

At least part. Maybe closer to all.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
24. absolutely....
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:39 PM
Nov 2015

I can't stand them. I'm very choosey about video. Comes from decades without television, or at least from the same disdain for that sort of media, I suppose.

REP

(21,691 posts)
25. I can read a transcript in less time than it takes to watch a video
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:47 PM
Nov 2015

Which is what I'd rather do. I don't know exactly why I dislike videos so much, but I do.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
26. If there's some text that accompanies/explains the video and it sounds interesting I might watch
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:54 PM
Nov 2015

Otherwise no.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
27. I have added many to my hosts file.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:01 PM
Nov 2015



In the past I have found some links give as many as twenty or so cookies and three of four popups/unders and an unwanted audio/video pitch for something that has no connection at all to why the DU link was given. And any OP that gives no description of what is at the link other that "This is cool!" or "Total Fail" results in me backing out of that OP and going somewhere else before going any further. Usually I log off from DU and clean out my cookies and history, editing my hosts file before returning. Some times I have to wonder what is the motivation behind someone offering a link to a site that is a real PITA but that is another story.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
28. ME
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:13 PM
Nov 2015

Never, if I open an OP and it has a video I next check to see if there is any text explaining the op without having to use the video, if not click on out of op

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
35. Couldn't, even if I wanted to
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 05:18 PM
Nov 2015

I have an old computer and, like a car, I don't need to know how to build one in order to drive one. I can read whatever website I want, I can send and receive emails, and I can post on DU, but whatever it is that makes videos play on a computer, I don't have.

So why not upgrade/change, or whatever it takes? A few reasons:
If it costs money, I can't spare. (Senior/Social Security income)
If it takes some computer knowledge to upgrade, I don't have it and son-in-law (computer career) doesn't help.
I have an old genealogy program that won't work on anything better than Windows 98.
A new genealogy program that would run on something better than Windows 98 costs money.
I have 15,174 individuals recorded on the existing program. I dread trying to transfer that much information to a new program, risking corruption of information or elimination of information, not to mention the amount of time I would take to check each and every fact that was transferred.

So, while I'm sure the videos posted on DU are informative and/or entertaining, I'll be sticking with my old computer setup until I finish my genealogy book.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
39. Waste of time and bandwidth. If it's not a music video of someone I *know* I like, or a cat ...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

it's just not worth it.

I suppose if I saw the words "edited for length" prominently displayed, I might change my mind occasionally. I definitely don't need to watch someone talking to the camera when I can read several times faster than that, from text doc that's a few kb in size.

Honestly, I think the only people who watch the videos are the most passive learners.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
40. i usually don't like them as educational/informational source
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 08:59 PM
Nov 2015

Edpecially if there is no text. I like to at least read sometHing first and then i will watch if i think it would help.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
42. I prefer to read. It's much faster
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 10:00 PM
Nov 2015

and I'm not irritated by poor delivery or stupid voices.

I'm amazed by what people link to; people actually sat on their dead asses and watched a 20 minute video of some random woman ranting about polling techniques? You could have read that shit in 30 seconds!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
44. I do not watch them.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:08 AM
Nov 2015

I also learn languages best by using them. Videos cannot help me with any of them; spanish, german, french, c++, or even java, js, i hate the videos. Hate them. I will buy a book and get to highlighting rather than have somebody teach me the bare minimum in a weird way. Ok. Sometime the german videos help. I won't lie. French too.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
45. Foreign languages are about the only thing I find them useful for
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:34 AM
Nov 2015

And only if they're short, like pronouncing a vocab list correctly, or a phrasebook style conversation. Definitely helped with Hindi.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
46. Exactly. Only for pronunciation.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:38 AM
Nov 2015

I usually go through a grammar tree and then a short course along with textbooks for elementary and intermediate, then pick a good book and a dictionary on my kindle and work my way through it. Working my way through the last book of Dances With Dragons backed up by a German dictionary. Helps because they put so much complicated vocab and sentence structure in those book; reading Der Speigel is easy in comparison.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
51. My favorite new language learning technique: Twitter
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 07:25 AM
Nov 2015

I've followed the twitter feeds of a bunch of French, Swahili, Arabic, and Hindi newspapers. It's a bunch of very simple sentences, and Twitter will translate it for you if necessary.

Judi Lynn

(160,543 posts)
47. I'm sure many take time to watch when they are posted by someone they respect and value.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:44 AM
Nov 2015

Since a lot of us are stretched for time, sometimes it's not possible to see the videos immediately, but we come back later to study them when we think well of the people who chose to share them.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
48. I dislike watching videos.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:02 PM
Nov 2015

My old computer will barely show some of them (Vimeo is a no-go, as is U Stream), and I get so frustrated because something I could pick up in two minutes by reading a short article takes twenty minutes or more of fumbling, mumbling, rambling nonsense.

Crafts are really horrible for this. I tried to watch one about making something for dolls, and it took the woman five minutes to even get to the tutorial. Between her kids causing a fuss, her stumbling around looking for the shit she needed to make the damned thing, and her rambling convo about something I don't even think was real, I just ended up clicking off. I'll figure it out myself, thank you.

Another thing I hate? Those sites where you have to click and click and click to read what should be a short article. Good grief.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
49. You may have read my mind.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:04 PM
Nov 2015

I was thinking this morning of making a post like this but I couldn't think how to word it.

I detest the infatuation with posting videos instead of text.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
50. This is why I prefer print journalism to tv news ....
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 11:25 PM
Nov 2015

the only exception being certain live events that convey better visually. Sometimes pictures are worth ten thousand words.

But usually not.

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