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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:10 PM Nov 2015

JON BEL EDWARDS JUST SHOWED DEMS HOW TO WIN !! YOU DO IT WITH STRENGTH !!

Last edited Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)

It is DONE ! Edwards has beaten Vitter-The-Prostituting-Liar-and-Cheater by being STRONG and CLEAR. THAT is how you god damned well WIN an election.

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JON BEL EDWARDS JUST SHOWED DEMS HOW TO WIN !! YOU DO IT WITH STRENGTH !! (Original Post) RBInMaine Nov 2015 OP
Yep vadermike Nov 2015 #1
Pro Gun and ProLife? itsrobert Nov 2015 #2
He is? SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #3
Yup, and apparently anit-Same Sex Marriage itsrobert Nov 2015 #4
Well that sucks pond scum. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #7
Sucks pond scum !?! Chemisse Nov 2015 #27
Sounds to me like he may be a repub running as a D. pangaia Nov 2015 #5
It's Louisiana Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #17
Yes but liskddksil Nov 2015 #6
That is good news, especially for LA. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #8
Purity LOSES. He is a social conservative but quite progressive on many other issues. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #12
In Louisiana? joshcryer Nov 2015 #19
You do it by calling out a prostitute frequenting candidate like Vitter for what he actually did. herding cats Nov 2015 #9
Social Conservative but quite PROGRESSIVE on economics, education, healthcare... THINK BIG PICTURE. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #16
No arguments from me. herding cats Nov 2015 #18
Makes my day to see Vitter go down roscoeroscoe Nov 2015 #34
Pro Medicaid expansion vadermike Nov 2015 #10
Yup, and he tied it to better health for the state and job creation. A STRONG PROGRESSIVE move. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #24
And that appealed to the conservative voters? Chemisse Nov 2015 #29
Sounds to me he won by being almost as conservative as GOP. Return of Dixiecrats maybe. Hoyt Nov 2015 #11
PROGRESSIVE on MANY economic and other issues. SAY NO TO UNREALISTIC PURITY. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #14
Interesting election Jarqui Nov 2015 #13
I believe she beats or ties all the RePUKES. You are talking NATIONAL. Very different dynamics. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #26
National determined by state level polls resulting in projected electoral votes Jarqui Nov 2015 #30
One of the best campaign ads wheniwasincongress Nov 2015 #36
K&R... spanone Nov 2015 #15
You do it by running against an unpopular opponent with a prostitution scandal in his past Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #20
Vitter was way ahead. joshcryer Nov 2015 #22
Vitter was WAY ahead. Edwards, largely unknown, took the fight to Vitter HARD. THAT did it. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #23
yep-- we need more Dems willing to freaking go after the rethugs like this! Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author demwing Nov 2015 #21
Glad to see Vitter gone, but Edwards ain't no prize bigwillq Nov 2015 #25
he's still a D in a deep red state-- which is a nice thing Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #32
Tell that to all the low-income people who are going to finally get health care Marje Nov 2015 #33
Vitter should have been gone long, long ago. Vinca Nov 2015 #28
THEN BERNIE SHOULD BE A SHOE IN. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #35
He did it with diapers and prostitutes... kentuck Nov 2015 #37

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
1. Yep
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:12 PM
Nov 2015

That's the way to do it! K and r. ! Wonderful victory. I am sure team Hillary and or team Bernie will use this to their advantage. I hope if they are the nominee and want to win ! Against the right nominee I think they could carry Louisiana against trump possibly

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
3. He is?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:17 PM
Nov 2015

(All I know about this is what I learned on DU in the last few minutes.) Pro life (quote unquote) is a DEMOCRAT??

 

liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
6. Yes but
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:19 PM
Nov 2015

Pro-Teacher and Public School, in a state that Republican's have been holding up as a model for school privatization. This is a huge set-back for them. So I have to take the good with the bad.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
12. Purity LOSES. He is a social conservative but quite progressive on many other issues.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:33 PM
Nov 2015

ProUnion, ProHealthcare, ProEducation, ProMiddleClassEconomics ! LA is a socially conservative state, like it or not.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
9. You do it by calling out a prostitute frequenting candidate like Vitter for what he actually did.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:26 PM
Nov 2015

Yeah, he went there and he won. It worked due to the his message and the type of constituency he was appealing to. Plus, he was was ahead in the polls before he made that ad. It was smart and borderline safe. It was brilliant!

All politics are local, and Edwards understood this and played to his strengths, and prayed on Vitter's weaknesses. He's still not the type of Democrat many DUers would accept winning a race.

Personally, I'm thrilled! He's not even close to a Progressive, but he sucks a lot less than Vitter which was the only other alternative here!

This is the reality of red state politics, which a lot of people who live in blue states just cannot wrap their heads around. The voting population is by majority conservative. Either you appeal to them, or a way worse candidate gets into office. Edwards knew this and he played his hadn accordingly.

Just don't set Edwards up as some model for our new Democratic platform unless you want to start praising all those Yellow Dogs whose demise I've seen celebrated here when they were voted out and we lost our majority power during the Big Purge.

All politics are local. This is a perfect example of that old saying.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
16. Social Conservative but quite PROGRESSIVE on economics, education, healthcare... THINK BIG PICTURE.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:00 AM
Nov 2015

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
18. No arguments from me.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:10 AM
Nov 2015

I know what the reality is there, and I agree with you.

I'm not a fan of the blind Red Vs. Blue stuff. It's always dependent on local politics, which vary by region, district, etc. If you dial in on what the local voters want, you can win. It just doesn't always equate to what most people consider to be a Progressive candidate. As in this case.

Edwards is leaps and bounds beyond what Vitter would have been for the population of Louisiana. I'm thrilled for the potential progress in their future! Even if it's not in all the areas I'd have wanted if this were a perfect world. Reality is this isn't, and it's a huge step in the right direction.

roscoeroscoe

(1,370 posts)
34. Makes my day to see Vitter go down
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 10:56 AM
Nov 2015

If a criminal freak like Vitter gets scrubbed, it sends a message. And I believe Bel will make things better for the people of Louisiana, which is the point. I can't wait to see the contrast with "Bobby".

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Sounds to me he won by being almost as conservative as GOP. Return of Dixiecrats maybe.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:32 PM
Nov 2015

But better than alternative.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
13. Interesting election
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:39 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2015/governor/la/louisiana_governor_vitter_vs_edwards-4314.html
Feb 2015 Vitter +21
Jun 2015 Vitter +22
Sep 2015 Vitter +18
then ...

Oct 2015 Edwards +16
Nov 2015 Edwards +22
Nov 2015 Edwards +14
Election Edwards +8

The voters said the 2007 prostitution scandal where new info came out that he skipped a vote to honor vets to call a prostitute got folks riled up against him.

My concern with Hillary's candidacy is kind of like the above. No, in 2007, Hillary didn't hook up with a prostitute. But there is a library of stuff the GOP can hit her with during the last few weeks of the campaign. Like Vitter, her favorability is not strong - she has a low ceiling. Right now, unlike Vitter, she's behind candidates like Rubio so she's currently not in nearly as good a position and she's unlikely to ever be +20 over the GOP candidate. And that makes her more vulnerable to the Koch money funding ads something like the ad that got Vitter - taking something from her past, twisting it a little and thumping her with a blitz. Hopefully, I'm wrong but that's one reason why I don't concede the primary to her.
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
26. I believe she beats or ties all the RePUKES. You are talking NATIONAL. Very different dynamics.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:13 AM
Nov 2015

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
30. National determined by state level polls resulting in projected electoral votes
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:25 AM
Nov 2015

She loses to Rubio handily for example - it's not that close - not a tie.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
20. You do it by running against an unpopular opponent with a prostitution scandal in his past
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:31 AM
Nov 2015

apparently. While not letting yourself be out-right-winged on things like abortion and gun control.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
22. Vitter was way ahead.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:48 AM
Nov 2015

Edwards went there and took the fight to Vitter, calling out all the BS. If he just ran as a nice guy he never would've gone anywhere.

Louisiana has been ranked consistently as the most pro-life state in the US. Sorry, you're not electing a pro-choice candidate there. It's not happening.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
23. Vitter was WAY ahead. Edwards, largely unknown, took the fight to Vitter HARD. THAT did it.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:10 AM
Nov 2015

It was NEVER going to happen had Edwards not run the STRONG campaign he ran. Remember, Vitter had NEVER lost an election, was much better known, and was 20 points ahead early on. Edwards ran a STRONG, AGGRESSIVE campaign. Edwards is a social conservative and an economic/education/labor moderate to PROGRESSIVE.

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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
37. He did it with diapers and prostitutes...
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:08 PM
Nov 2015

That was the line that even Republicans will not cross. If we can get all the other Republicans to put on diapers and visit houses of prostitution, then we may take back the house.

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