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Recursion

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Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:25 AM Nov 2015

Conservative Tim Carney nails Jeb! on Iraq

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jeb-blames-void-in-iraq-for-isiss-rise-dodges-qs-on-iraq-war/article/2576772

Ouch.


So, if Jeb is pointing to voids in Iraq to explain the Islamic State's rise there, is he indicting his brother's Iraq War? At the state capitol in Concord, I asked that: Did the regime changes in Iraq and Libya contribute to the Islamic State?

"The void was created when we did not maintain adequate forces," Bush said, not directly addressing regime change. Another reporter asked a follow-up: Is the U.S. better off with the Islamic State in Iraq or Saddam Hussein?

"Neither," Jeb said. Then he explicitly refused to talk about his brother's Iraq war: "We could have a history lesson if you like," he said, slightly peeved. Instead, he said he wanted to talk about what he would do when he took office "in 2017." Of course, Jeb's "When we pull back, voids are filled," was a history lesson about Obama's foreign policy. But if those history lessons go back to the last Bush presidency, Jeb is uneasy with them.

The next set of questions to ask Jeb Bush: So how long should U.S. troops have stayed in Iraq? Or would terrorists have filled the void whenever we withdrew? If indefinite, multi-decade occupations would be required after toppling Saddam, does that tell us anything about the wisdom of the Iraq War?
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Conservative Tim Carney nails Jeb! on Iraq (Original Post) Recursion Nov 2015 OP
"...terrorists have filled the void whenever we withdrew?" TexasProgresive Nov 2015 #1
toon says it all ... napkinz Nov 2015 #2
ISIS is Bush's Legacy napkinz Nov 2015 #3
Can't believe the Democratic Establishment couldn't find a candidate who opposed the Iraq War Dems to Win Nov 2015 #4
"Jeb, your brother created ISIS!" napkinz Nov 2015 #5

TexasProgresive

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1. "...terrorists have filled the void whenever we withdrew?"
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:45 AM
Nov 2015

This was always my position. Some nations are artificial in nature and only a "strong man" i.e. Saddam, can hold it together. Another example would be Yugoslavia, without Tito it devolved into its more natural states.

Like it or not there was a certain "Pax Romana" enforced by the strong will and draconian actions of one person.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
4. Can't believe the Democratic Establishment couldn't find a candidate who opposed the Iraq War
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
Nov 2015

Yes, Jeb makes no sense when he tries to defend his brother. Neither does Hillary when she tries to defend her vote, or just shrugs it off as a mistake.

Fingers are crossed she is not our nominee.

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