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why cant liberals accept conservative values, policies and candidates? (Original Post) reddread Nov 2015 OP
What? Iggo Nov 2015 #1
What? uppityperson Nov 2015 #2
And have one big, corporate funded, party of war? guillaumeb Nov 2015 #3
Just had my first sip of Cab... trumad Nov 2015 #4
Why can't liberals accept conservative values, policies and candidates ??? SamKnause Nov 2015 #5
How about you reverse that equation, while I go get the 3 Billy Goats Gruff? WinkyDink Nov 2015 #6
we do. We're not the ones carrying guns. We want to be friends and talk. librechik Nov 2015 #7
I have noticed that also reddread Nov 2015 #8
Because some of them are patently stupid in every way? Throd Nov 2015 #9
Because liberals SHOULDN'T accept conservative values, policies and candidates rocktivity Nov 2015 #10
Is this a serious question??? nruthie Nov 2015 #11
I don't think it is. trof Nov 2015 #20
As a nation we have become so partisan that Conservative and Liberal are no longer philosophies Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #12
Because I'm not using my colon as an ear warmer. nt Half-Century Man Nov 2015 #13
Cause they stink? merrily Nov 2015 #14
Roll over Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #15
Because they want rules of law where Kalidurga Nov 2015 #16
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #17
Trump's fighting for the unemployed? Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #18
They are not conservative. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #19
Maybe a better question: Why can't conservatives accept liberal values, policies and candidates? kydo Nov 2015 #21
I believe that is the only question reddread Nov 2015 #22
Because 50 or 60 years ago, these conservatives would have been laughed PatrickforO Nov 2015 #23
All get along? Do you mean submit to conservative ideas? Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #24
Tocompromise with the modern right hifiguy Nov 2015 #25
This is what is known as a rhetorical question Monk06 Nov 2015 #26
no, its more of a conundrum reddread Nov 2015 #29
What do you want us to accept? RandySF Nov 2015 #27
us? reddread Nov 2015 #28
Because they are bad for everyone. alarimer Nov 2015 #30
definitely reddread Nov 2015 #31
Because conservatives aren't conservative TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #32
 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
4. Just had my first sip of Cab...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

Let me finish the bottle and maybe---just maybe I'll get this Op.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
5. Why can't liberals accept conservative values, policies and candidates ???
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:45 PM
Nov 2015

Conservatives have few values.

Conservatives have proven decade after decade that their policies are monumental failures.

I don't accept Conservative candidates because I disagree with them on every issue.

I don't want the U.S. to become a Corporate Theocracy.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
7. we do. We're not the ones carrying guns. We want to be friends and talk.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:50 PM
Nov 2015

It's the conservatives who are intolerant, hateful and uncompromising.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
10. Because liberals SHOULDN'T accept conservative values, policies and candidates
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:53 PM
Nov 2015

they're insane and anti-social.


rocktivy

nruthie

(466 posts)
11. Is this a serious question???
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:55 PM
Nov 2015

I would die before I accepted their "values". They have none. And no, we can't all get along.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
12. As a nation we have become so partisan that Conservative and Liberal are no longer philosophies
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:00 PM
Nov 2015

but armed camps where the other side is evil.

Instead of a nuanced difference in how to achieve a policy goal, they take diametrically opposite solutions.

Think about it.

A core principal of Conservatism is individualism. The individual is king. Why did Conservatives decide, then, to say an individual being gay is an abomination in the sight of the lord while liberals champion being gay as being sacrosanct?

This was not always so.

The Equal Rights Act of 1964 could not have passed without Conservative, Republican votes. Democrats, most living the South, but many other elsewhere, would have killed equal rights on sight. Conservative votes saved it. That could not happen today.

Using the word, "rollover" is telling. We have government that requires compromise. We have reached a point where neither side can get anything done of substance unless they control the government. They refuse to compromise.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
16. Because they want rules of law where
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:15 PM
Nov 2015

the protection of the government is based on the morals of the person who needs protection rather than on the morality of protecting every citizen regardless of race, creed, gender, and religion or lack of.

Response to reddread (Original post)

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
18. Trump's fighting for the unemployed?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:33 PM
Nov 2015

You mean, the guy whose favorite phrase on his reality show is "You're fired"?

LOL

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
19. They are not conservative.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nov 2015

They are radical. They run up huge debt, start wars and want fairy tale libertarian ideas. If you want libertarian anarchy, Somalia awaits.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
23. Because 50 or 60 years ago, these conservatives would have been laughed
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:54 PM
Nov 2015

right back into the holes they crawled out of. Like happened in 1964 when Goldwater lost by a landslide.

Unfortunately, we have some big monied interests that have activated these cretins, given them power, given them legitimacy, given them a platform and they have fucked up this country big time. The problem is they don't care about anything but themselves - oh, they are tough! Oh, they are fit! Oh, they are survivors!

They BELIEVE in social Darwinism. They believe in it because of the giant, swollen, throbbing corporate owned propaganda organs begun in 1971 with the Powell memo, hastened in 1984 when Reagan allowed the Fairness Doctrine to lapse and brought to a cankerous fruition through hate talk radio and Fox 'news.' This feces has been poured down our backs for decades now...

Unions are bad.

Helping each other is bad.

We don't need no social safety nets.

We should privatize Social Security.

Hey, let's mess with the US Postal Service and its public union! Yep, we'll pass the Postal Enhancement and Accountability Act of 2006. Yep, we'll force them to pay $5 billion off the top every year to pay for pensions and benefits for workers who haven't even been born yet. Doesn't matter NO private sector firm does this. We don't like no postal union. Let's fuck 'em up!

Hey, let's pass some giant 'free trade' acts called NAFTA and CAFTA! We'll relish that giant sucking sound as good American jobs are shifted overseas and our people end up taking lower paying service jobs with no benefits.

Hey, let's deregulate Wall Street. We don't need no Glass-Steagall Act! Nope. We don't need no regulation at all. What? Bubble? Well, it's the fault of the borrowers, not Wall Street! Heck, give us $750 billion to bail us out because the taxpayers should shoulder the risk as long as we get to keep our profits, our multi million dollar salaries and our bonuses!

Well, there's an EVIL guy named Saddam Hussein. He's got (gasp) WMDs (shudder)! We gotta go get him. Let's have some shock and awe and launch a nice FOREVER WAR. Because what could be better for the MIC than a shadow enemy that can't really ever be defeated but that we need the very highest, bestest, mostest state-of-the-art military to fight. What? What do you mean where is that $8 billion? What $8 billion? We didn't lose no $8 billion! It disappeared from pallets in Iraqi warehouses, you say? No...that's a LIB-er-AL conspiracy. We didn't lose no money. In fact we need MORE!!!

We need a Wall to keep Mexican immigrants out! We'll make Mexico pay for it! And these Syrian refugees? We ain't takin' no Syrians. And if Obama forces us to then they need to wear badges and be 'concentrated' in certain locations...

We don't like no abortion. Don't matter it's the law of the land...not at all. Hey, I know, let's regulate the clinics out of business! That'll work. And we can de-fund Planned Parenthood. We shouldn't have to subsidize no sex for poor women! And they shouldn't make as much as men. And they should stay at home anyway...



So, Reddread, now you have it. THAT is why we can't get along with 'conservatives.' They are batshit crazy and we need to end the gerrymandering and vote in sane people so the crazies can go back under their rocks.



RandySF

(58,911 posts)
27. What do you want us to accept?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

Racial and enthusiasm minorities as 2nd class citizens? LGBT people shoved back into the closet? Where do you want us to begin?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
28. us?
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:13 AM
Nov 2015

how about TPP and endless war?
it isnt liberals that have problems accepting conservative mindlessness,
it is CONSERVATIVES who cannot abide progressive liberal values.
How much suppport has the struggle for equality and same sex marriage seen from the backers
of CONSERVATIVE BUSH POLICIES?

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
30. Because they are bad for everyone.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:52 AM
Nov 2015

Conservative values restrict freedom of individuals. They place business above all else, to the detriment of people's health and of the environment (despite conservation and conservative coming from the same root word).

In short, those values and individuals are actively harmful to what we hold dear.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
32. Because conservatives aren't conservative
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:39 AM
Nov 2015

There's nothing conservative about expecting the government to create or repeal laws to coincide with your religious beliefs.

It's not conservative to to say you are "pro-life", but think that programs should be cut that make the lives of poor families bearable - food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing.

It's not conservative to start unnecessary and counterproductive wars to enrich the MIC.

It's not conservative to allow industries to pollute our planet.

It's not conservative to allow the financial industry to police themselves when they have a record of being reckless.

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