UC Santa Cruz student warned to abstain from BDS vote over ‘Jewish agenda’

[leftynyc]

A Jewish member of the student government at University of California, Santa Cruz was warned to “abstain” from voting on a pro-BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement) resolution because he is the president of the school's Jewish Student Union and was “elected with a Jewish agenda.”

The incident occurred prior to a vote by the UCSC student council to annul a veto an earlier Israel divestment bill. On Nov. 17, the UCSC voted 28 in favor and five against, with seven abstaining, to reinstate a divestment resolution that was vetoed in 2014.

In a text message sent to UC Santa Cruz Jewish Student Union (JSU) President Daniel Bernstein, the sender wrote, “You will be abstaining, as the president of JSU that is the right thing.”

http://www.jns.org/latest-articles/2015/11/18/uc-santa-cruz-student-warned-to-abstain-from-bds-vote-over-jewish-agenda#.Vk4wrdKrSig=


I wonder if all the Muslim students also got a text saying they shouldn't vote. I'm guessing no. Anti-Zionism is bad enough at colleges these days. The anti-semitism is totally out of hand.

[shira]

1. It's just antizionism. Really.

[COLGATE4]

2. Sure it is.

[MosheFeingold]

3. The daily stabbings of random Jewish people

Is also just anti-Zionism.

(yes, sarcasm)

I lived through this crap once on another continent. I'd really like it to not happen here, too.

That said, we are told it happens every generation. So I suppose we are due.

[geek tragedy]

14. So you're equating a racist text message from one person

to the state-sponsored genocide of Jews, Roma, and homosexuals?

[MosheFeingold]

45. No, not remotely. Didn't even imply that. n/t

[geek tragedy]

46. you invoked the Holocaust over a single text message and said it was happening again

Care to throw in a reference to the Mufti while you're at it?

[MosheFeingold]

47. No I didn't.

Read my title. I said the "daily stabbings of Jewish people."

Apparently you are unaware of what is happening in NYC, London, Paris, various parts of Europe, Tel Aviv, etc.

People are randomly stabbing Jewish people as we walk down the street. Seems to be happening every day.

Sorry the daily stabbing of Jewish people doesn't make your radar as a significant event.

[geek tragedy]

50. There are daily stabbing in Israel.

While sporadic hate crimes are loathsome, there is no final solution underway in Europe or North America. Not every problem is just like Hitler.

[MosheFeingold]

52. Just warming up

The tolerance of lies about Israel among the left are a symptom. You can look around this forum and read them.

And here just from a quick google search of what is going on this week:

French Jews Warned Friday Morning of ‘Impending Large Terrorist Attack

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/11/15/french-jews-warned-friday-morning-of-impending-large-terrorist-attack/

Jewish Teacher Stabbed in Marseilles

http://www.france24.com/en/20151119-jewish-schoolteacher-stabbed-marseille-Jewish-schoolteacher-stabbed-supporters-Marseillesup

Jewish Man Stabbed in Milan

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ultra-orthodox-jew-stabbed-in-possible-anti-semitic-attack-in-milan/

Three Jewish men stabbed in France

http://www.timesofisrael.com/3-jews-stabbed-in-anti-semitic-attack-in-france/

Polish nationalists burn Jew in effigy

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_POLAND_ANTI_SEMITISM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-20-08-41-57

Two Jews killed in Tel Aviv Attack

http://www.jewishjournal.com/israel/article/two_jews_killed_in_tel_aviv_stabbing_attack

Jews Stabbed in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Beersheba.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/No-Holds-Barred-Global-silence-as-Jews-are-stabbed-slashed-and-murdered-429845

Jews Forced to Live in Armed Camps in France

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/324977/in-paris-enclave-some-jews-wonder-if-charmed-life-is-ending/

Swedish Jewish community closes synagogues amid terror threats

http://www.timesofisrael.com/swedish-jewish-community-close-synagogues-amid-terror-threats/

70% of European Jews Afraid to Reveal Ethnicity

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/europe/85216-150910-70-of-european-jews-afraid-to-expose-religion-in-public-poll

Jewish Paris cafe owner loses wife, friends in terror attack

http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-paris-cafe-owner-loses-wife-friends-in-terror-attack/


And that is just what I copied from the top of the Google search. Sure, you are 100% correct, it's not 1943 Nazi Germany.

More like 1933, where it just got going.

[geek tragedy]

57. Hysterical nonsense.

First, to suggest a final solution against Jews is in the works in Israel/Palestine is so gobsmackingly stupid and upside-down on the relative power relationships there it makes my head hurt.

Second, the hallmark of the Holocaust was the mobilization of state resources to engage in the systematic genocide of an ethnicity. Random stabbings by bigots from another ethnic minority fall several magnitudes short of that.

[MosheFeingold]

58. I guess Jewish lives don't matter. Got it. n/t

[geek tragedy]

59. more hysterical nonsense and a blatant distortion of what I wrote.

Last word is yours. Get back to us when you're ready to have a rational conversation.

[romanic]

4. I noticed

that a lot of this stems from protests on college campuses regarding Palestine, specifically students being more for Palestine vs Israel. Am I far off?

[leftynyc]

17. Here's one from UCLA

with the same nonsense

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/21317/

Anyone want to guess if any of the Muslim students were given similar talks? Nah - even asking makes me an Islamophobe and hater.

[6chars]

5. they are really trying to intimidate Jewish students now

it's not about Zionist or not. This guy is Jewish, they say he had a Jewish agenda. And if you are Jewish, there is only one opinion that the BDSers on campus will allow you to express. It is a conscious tactic of theirs to harass Jews so that Jews will stop supporting Israel. This is far different than making arguments. This is thuggery. Then when pro-Israel voices are silenced, the uninformed 90% will hear all of the anti-Israel voices etc. One reason this tactic works is that adherents of the other major religions each outnumber Jews by a factor of 100 to 1. It baffles me that progressives approve of this tactic.

[leftynyc]

18. Not this progressive

I agree with you. It's intimidation, pure and simple. Disgusting. Thankfully our elected officials don't buy into these repulsive tactics.

[leftynyc]

30. And a real anti-semite

comes out to play. I'm not even going to alert on your ass. I want everyone to see what you are.

[Rex]

31. Sorry I alerted.

That was horrible.

[leftynyc]

34. Better and better with each post

So-called holocaust? What makes you think you would be welcome here? And really, I'm interested in hearing just why you thought DU would welcome someone like you.

[leftynyc]

36. So when was it a Jewish girl

told you your small dick wasn't of interest to her?

[leftynyc]

40. Exactly what you deserve, cupcake

You make me want to vomit.

[yuiyoshida]

39. Wow you really are on the wrong website

I am sure there must be a Donald Trump Underground some where on the net.

[leftynyc]

41. Donald Trump is a lot of

very negative things - xenophobe and racist - but he's no anti-semite. His most favorite daughter recently converted to Orthodox Judaism. And now I have to go wash my hands for having to defend that piece of crap.

[yuiyoshida]

42. I have a Bar of

LAVA if you think that might help.

[leftynyc]

43. Pumice Powered

That sounds painful but may just do the trick. I use a pumice on my very dry feet.

[MosheFeingold]

48. Trump's daughter is an Orthodox Jew.

He has many failings, but anti-Semite is not one.

[yuiyoshida]

51. so i have learned...

thank you

[MosheFeingold]

53. I do want some of that Lava soap. Ick.

Although I do admit I enjoyed watching him on his TV show.

[yuiyoshida]

55. Trump is definitely a clown...

Even the mainstream Republicans are worried he might end up being their Candidate, as everyone should be.

[KamaAina]

6. Xposted to California group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1040

[Prism]

7. I'm sure a massive protest will break out any minute now . . .

Any . . . minute . . .

[grossproffit]

9. Great minds. I was thinking the same thing. Any minute now.

They'll be lining up to voice their outrage.

[MosheFeingold]

10. I was planning

On cornering and berating various random people in a school library.

It seems to be an effective method of getting things done.

[Prism]

11. If you could work in some racial slurs

That would be extra persuasive!

[snooper2]

33. The college needs to break everything up and put groups in their safe space

then everything will be fine!

[grossproffit]

8. If another group got this same text, the outrage would be deafening.

It seems that Jewish lives don't matter as much as others.

[joeybee12]

12. And the twit who sent that probably thinks gays have a gay agenda...

Did they find out who the cretin is who sent it?

[grossproffit]

15. I've noticed that antisemitism and homophobia seem to go hand in hand.

It's utterly disgusting.

[joeybee12]

16. People like the nitwit who sent that text seems to think only people

other than his/herself has an agenda, because his/her viewpoint is the only valid one, done from a purely logical standpoint, he or she believes and he/she cannot possibly have any bias.

[leftynyc]

19. Can you even imagine the howls

of outrage if a similar text was sent to a Muslim student? Freeking deafening.

[grossproffit]

24. Yep!

[geek tragedy]

44. you think this doesn't happen to Muslim students all the time?nt

[geek tragedy]

13. this is awful and is per se anti-Semitism.

At the same time, LOL at the pro-Israel folks complaining about academic freedom.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/nyregion/bloomberg-defends-brooklyn-colleges-right-to-bds-talk.html?_r=0

Mr. Bloomberg said he “couldn’t disagree more violently” with the movement, known as B.D.S., for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. But he said a university should be free to sponsor a forum on any topic, “including ideas that people find repugnant.”

“If you want to go to a university where the government decides what kind of subjects are fit for discussion, I suggest you apply to a school in North Korea,” he said in a news conference at City Hall.

The comments were Mr. Bloomberg’s first on a debate that has pitted the school against some New York City and state legislators, the Anti-Defamation League and prominent alumni like Alan Dershowitz.


The Brooklyn College event, scheduled to take place on Thursday, is being co-sponsored by the college’s political science department, as well as several student and nonstudent groups, and will feature two speakers from the B.D.S. movement, Judith Butler, a philosopher, and Omar Barghouti, a founding member of the group.

Ten members of the City Council, led by Lewis A. Fidler of Brooklyn, signed a letter on Jan. 29 to the college president, Karen Gould, demanding either that the event be canceled or that the university revoke its sponsorship. (Two of the members later backed off their support of the letter.) The letter also suggested that if the university went ahead with the event, the Council might withhold future financing to the school. Mr. Bloomberg rejected that threat.

http://www.thenation.com/article/steven-salaita-professor-fired-for-uncivil-tweets-vindicated-in-federal-court/

Despite the initial show of support, however, the University soon changed its tune. Letters and emails obtained via Illinois’ Freedom of Information Act revealed that students, alumni, and donors wrote to the University’s Chancellor, Phyllis Wise (“Wise”), to voice their concerns over Dr. Salaita joining the University. One writer in particular claimed to be a “multiple 6 figure donor” who would be ceasing support of the University because of Dr. Salaita and his tweets.

Two other specific interactions are critical to Dr. Salaita’s Complaint. The first involves an unknown donor who met with Chancellor Wise and provided her a two-page memo about the situation. Wise ultimately destroyed the memo, but an email Wise sent University officials summarized it as follows: “He [the unknown donor] gave me [Chancellor Wise] a two-pager filled with information on Professor Salaita and said how we handle the situation will be very telling.” The second interaction involves a particularly wealthy donor who asked to meet with Chancellor Wise to “share his thoughts about the University’s hiring of Professor Salaita.”

Plenty more where that came from.

[ericson00]

20. this is precisely why both left and right must confront Radical Islamist ideology:

in ways like this it is influencing Americans' daily lives even when it isn't in the form of violent jihad, but rather academic jihad. Sadly, elements of the extreme-left are co-opting it because it fits an "anti-imperial colonial agenda."

And the Democratic Party needs to start taking on the anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. It's small among party members but has been growing enough to be on peoples' radars. The Party cannot take the Jewish vote for granted: Obama lost 10% of his Jewish vote from 2008 to 2012. Jews have been one of the most loyal groups to the Democratic party, some of the fiercest advocates for progressive causes (civil rights in particular), and some of the most generous donors. While not a big percent of people nation wide, this country is a. one of the few with more Jews than Muslims, and b. there are a lot of Jews in swing states, and c. Americans in general support Israel over Palestinians by a gulf-sized margin. That Gaza episode from the 2012 convention can never fucking happen again. Ever.

[leftynyc]

21. I saw that lack of support for Obama

in my own family. They didn't vote for Romney, they just skipped the race. Nothing I said (and believe me, I defended the President strongly), made a dent. I ran into the same thing recently in Israel - from those on the Israeli left as well as the right - they simply think Pres Obama has tried so hard to be "fair" that he ignores far too much violence perpetrated by the Palestinians. But the Israeli's love Hillary and are good with Bernie also - they just don't like the President. But you're right - another episode like that in 2012 is not something the Democrats can let happen again - and as your poll clearly shows - there is little stomach for supporting those who vote terrorist organizations into elected offices.

[ericson00]

22. here's a few things that give me hope:

Salon actually talking about Islamic terror as well as ForwardProgressive. The case for the left to stop excusing Islamism needs to be made if the argument to defend and protect Israel is to ultimately win. Even tho these articles, IMO, are written a little too nicely, they need to be spread around the internet. Hamas and Hezbollah are no different than ISIS, AQ, Boko and must not be seen as such, ever.

[leftynyc]

56. Two excellent and very well written pieces

Even most of the comments didn't make me want to be sick. But I'll end the week with the same thing I said at the beginning of the week,when it comes to Islam and liberals, Bill Maher was right.

[Behind the Aegis]

23. Such blatant anti-Semitism.

Of course, it is no surprise, as it is no surprise of the "but...but...but..." excuses some feel obligated to make. But hey, be happy. Crimes against Jews decreased in 2014! Instead of being 60% of the victims of crimes based on religion, we fell to 59%! It's all in our heads and we're just "playing cards".

The Jewish "agenda", right up there with the gay "agenda", I am so busy these days...two agendas...what to do, what to do!

[grossproffit]

25. I'm mad as hell at the "but...but...but..." excuses, too.

[leftynyc]

26. And frankly,

and I'm sorry to have to point this out, far too many Muslims would kill you for being either Jewish or gay. So many right here continue to try and ignore that startling Pew poll about how many support sharia law. That people who call themselves liberals will ignore all these things because they support the Palestinians is....disturbing.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. But remember, when DU members constantly berate Bernie that is not antisemitism no matter what!

I have seen verbiage on DU that sickens me. And they seem so proud of it.

[leftynyc]

38. Just take a look at post 32 and 35

A real live anti semite that I refuse to alert on (I don't even think I can as it's my OP) and nobody seems to give a shit. So called holocaust? I guess those were my so called relatives that went up in smoke.

[Yorktown]

49. I wish BDS would also worry about Hamas and Hezbollah

[Marrah_G]

54. That is messed up!