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NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:24 PM Nov 2015

Life itself has inherent risks.

We are such a silly species. We battle, war, conquer - form cliques and clubs. We want guaranteed protection, yet get into our cars and text or talk on the phone or speed - we overeat and smoke and drink. I guess it is about each of us making the choice of how or when we go, rather than have it made for us (???)

Terror related deaths and injuries are horrendous. Killing of innocent people for attention, or personal political or religious or whatever agendas - it is unspeakable. But in this world - so diverse, so connected (yet disconnected), so divisive - given the choice of accepting that there is indeed risk - that none of us will be here forever - or allowing the fear to bottle up our lives into something unrecognizable due to so many restrictions and political posturing - I will take more freedom for sure.

And the side effect of this fear - the xenophobia, the hunkering down into more and more tight little cliques, the poorly thought out, reactive comments of various politicians and others - is just as awful - and only increases the risks in the long run.

Which is I guess a long way of shaking my head at life today, and how we react, and what we end up doing.

Sorry if this is word salad - just one of those days.

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Life itself has inherent risks. (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 OP
Makes sense to me. villager Nov 2015 #1
I find it fascinating how the narratives are the same, but the sides flip, when... Shandris Nov 2015 #2
I do feel that the proposed means used to address the threats of gun violence vs. terrorism.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #5
Yeah, no disagreement from me there. They're very different. Shandris Nov 2015 #8
K&r with thanks uppityperson Nov 2015 #3
Which is why I am adamant Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #4
Refugees arent terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists. randys1 Nov 2015 #6
good post. cyberswede Nov 2015 #7
kick kentuck Nov 2015 #9
Humans are infamously terrible at managing risks in the 'very-unlikely-but-awful' category phantom power Nov 2015 #10
Tomato salad? Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #11
Manufactured fears. hunter Nov 2015 #12
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
2. I find it fascinating how the narratives are the same, but the sides flip, when...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

...gun control vs terrorism is discussed. That's usually a sign of something (and not a good one).

((Edit: On hindsight, I realized I totally didn't comment on the POINT at all. I agree with this assessment and always have. There is always a degree of risk, and its simultaneously much larger and much smaller than any of us know or want to know.))

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
5. I do feel that the proposed means used to address the threats of gun violence vs. terrorism....
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:31 PM
Nov 2015

....are quite different.

Common sense criminal background checks and waiting periods vs. significant intrusion into one's privacy and advocating torture.

I see what you are getting at, but they aren't as similar as one might otherwise think.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
8. Yeah, no disagreement from me there. They're very different.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015

I was referring more to how, when arguments sound so very similar, particularly on highly diverse topics, you can usually look to a third party to see where that phrase came from. That (media manipulation) was more what I was referring to.

I'm definitely not trying to equate the two topics, and categorically reject any attempt to do so.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
4. Which is why I am adamant
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:30 PM
Nov 2015

about my belief in safer spaces as opposed to "safe spaces"

I love the chaos that exists in the world as well as the autonomy to create whatever "order" out of that chaos that I deem necessary for my well-being...

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. Refugees arent terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:31 PM
Nov 2015

GOP is scared, all the time.

It is how they are manipulated.

Tough talkers who are afraid of 3 yr olds.

I loved Cruz calling out the president, wanted to fight him

Ted, Barack would kick your ass

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
10. Humans are infamously terrible at managing risks in the 'very-unlikely-but-awful' category
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:38 PM
Nov 2015

We waste huge energies on 'preparing' for very very unlikely things, because they are awful and have a big emotional impact. I would guess that a big fraction of crappy policies and politics have something to do with this.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
12. Manufactured fears.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:25 PM
Nov 2015

It's the business of terrorists and many who claim to be "protecting" us from terrorists.

I don't watch the television news. It reeks of propaganda and spin.

My own community has enough home-brewed gang trouble, aggravated by the drug warriors.

Even with the these horrible terrorist acts in Paris, the per capita murder rate and law enforcement kill rate in my community is greater.

Ideological wars of various sorts keep the business of terror profitable, mostly for those who live in relative safety.

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