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Is Scott Adams a member here? (Original Post) Whiskeytide Nov 2015 OP
There will be the inevitable Scott Adams is a misogynist post shortly. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #1
Really? Now that is one I have never heard. n/t Whiskeytide Nov 2015 #2
As well as the inevitable claim that either: Orrex Nov 2015 #3
Some people don't realize that douchebags and jerks can still be extremely talented in their craft. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #4
Take that back! Chan790 Nov 2015 #6
The Smashing Pumpkins will forever be my all-time favorite rock band. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #14
Um, Tommy ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #17
Jimmy played guitar? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #18
No, Jimmy Iha Played Guitar and He Was Better Than Billy ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #24
Touché Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #7
As Kim Deal once observed: Orrex Nov 2015 #8
Ha! Priceless... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #11
But he's a Goddamned musical genius, so I completely forgive him. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #13
Don't get me wrong. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #15
Nine Inch Nails was great. Pretty Hate Machine remains one of my all time favorite albums. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #16
For me, NIN has only gotten better with age. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #20
He did a great job with The Social Network. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #22
I loved Sharon Osbourne's reason for resigning as their manager cyberswede Nov 2015 #19
Well, he is. Chan790 Nov 2015 #5
3...2...1... Initech Nov 2015 #10
Probably not. He's a right-wing libertarian. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #9
Adams endorsed Romney in 2012. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #12
He's a right-winger, and a comic strip making fun of racism is exactly what I'd expect from him. n/t gollygee Nov 2015 #21
Well - learn something new every day... Whiskeytide Nov 2015 #23

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
3. As well as the inevitable claim that either:
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:59 PM
Nov 2015

a) He's not really a misogynist

or

b) Ok, he's a misogynist, but it's not relevant here

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
6. Take that back!
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015

Billy Corgan is a wonderful human being...or something approximating a human being. He just has really awful social skills and seems to enjoy being an life-troll.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
14. The Smashing Pumpkins will forever be my all-time favorite rock band.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

And Billy Corgan is without a doubt a musical genius with his ability to play guitar and write lyrics. (His voice is what one calls an "acquired taste" but once you do manage to acquire it, you appreciate that, too.)

So whether he's just a tortured, misunderstood genius or a general douchebag, I couldn't care less. The guy is simply brilliant when it comes to awesome music.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
17. Um, Tommy
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

Billy was never(!) even the best guitar player in his own band. I know those guys personally as the drummer's first band was my band when he was around 15 and i was 19. Jimmy had enormous chops even as a kid!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
18. Jimmy played guitar?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

I never knew that. I also thought he stayed strictly to drums, of which he was quite awesome at playing.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
24. No, Jimmy Iha Played Guitar and He Was Better Than Billy
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:17 AM
Nov 2015

By a lot.

Jimmy C "played with" a guitar but he was best suited to the drums where he did, indeed, have a tremendous gift. His brother Jeff was a good drummer too.

On Edit: I was thinking of the lead player in Jim's brother's band. Jim's brother was named Mike.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
15. Don't get me wrong.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:39 PM
Nov 2015

Generally, I appreciate the Pumpkins' music. Their blending of goth rock, alternative, industrial, and heavy metal definitely made for some eclectic tunes. I'd take them over the post-grunge shit that seemed to permeate the market those days any day of the week.

But I don't forgive the man unconditionally. Mostly because I'm a Nine Inch Nails fan, and NIN beats the shit out of SP all day long and twice on Sundays

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
16. Nine Inch Nails was great. Pretty Hate Machine remains one of my all time favorite albums.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:46 PM
Nov 2015

One that I insist on listening to from beginning to end without missing a single note because it's just that good of an album.

To me, the Pumpkins have aged somewhat better than NIN in terms of my own tastes, but I'll gladly take Pretty Hate Machine, The Downward Spiral or The Fragile as kick-ass mood music.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
20. For me, NIN has only gotten better with age.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015

I don't identify with the angsty lyrics of the early work quite as much, but the layering of Trent Reznor's compositions is so dense that even today, a decade and a half after I started seriously following his music, I'm still discovering new sounds tucked between the notes.

I do think the NIN brand has grown a little stale since The Fragile, though. But Trent's soundtrack collaborations with David Fincher have been nothing short of brilliant.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
19. I loved Sharon Osbourne's reason for resigning as their manager
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

“It was with great pride and enthusiasm that I took on management of the Pumpkins back in October,” Osbourne wrote, “but unfortunately I must resign today due to medical reasons — Billy Corgan was making me sick.”



http://www.mtv.com/news/1434174/osbourne-drops-smashing-pumpkins-from-management-roster/

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. Well, he is.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:01 PM
Nov 2015

He's also center-right libertarian; probably but not definitely a registered Republican.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
23. Well - learn something new every day...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:55 PM
Nov 2015

... I had no idea he was a right winger or a libertarian.

For the record, I don't think he was poking fun at racism. I think he was poking fun at dicks, and racism was the topic he chose. Now, maybe that means something (knowing what I've learned today), but I had no idea when I posted it.

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