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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:18 AM Nov 2015

Pentagon Admits to Shipping Live weapons grade Anthrax to All 50 States and 9 Countries

According to the Department of Defense, the U.S. Army has erroneously shipped live anthrax to at least 9 countries and all 50 states. Earlier this year, the Defense Department initially claimed that only two countries and 11 states were given live anthrax spores, but an internal investigation revealed that nearly 200 labs mistakenly received the lethal pathogen. On Thursday, Secretary of the Army John McHugh ordered an immediate safety review of all Defense Department labs.

In May, the Defense Department released a statement admitting that 24 laboratories in 11 states and two foreign countries were given live samples of anthrax by mistake. On June 10, the Pentagon updated the numbers to 68 labs in 19 states and four countries. According to the latest count, 88 primary labs received live anthrax and shared it with 106 secondary labs for a total of 194 labs.

Scientists at the Army’s Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah failed to inactivate the spores by adequately irradiating them. Instead of properly checking to make sure that the deadly spores were inactive, Dugway ended up shipping the specimens to nine countries and all 50 states.

Labs in Japan, United Kingdom, Korea, Australia, Canada, Italy, Germany, Norway, and Switzerland received samples from the Ames strain, which is a particularly virulent form of the bacteria used in the 2001 Anthrax attacks. Labs in all 50 states and Washington, D.C., plus Guam, the Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico also received active spores that were mislabeled as dead.


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http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/11/pentagon-admits-to-shipping-live-anthrax-to-all-50-states-and-9-countries/#

Pentagon spokesman

Opps!!! sorry about that folks, we will do better next time at least it didn't go to Senators and newspapers this time.

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Pentagon Admits to Shipping Live weapons grade Anthrax to All 50 States and 9 Countries (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 OP
Wtf? uppityperson Nov 2015 #1
Why are they shipping them anywhere at all? murielm99 Nov 2015 #2
Dugway Proving Ground is the size of Rhode Island Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #3
Thank you. murielm99 Nov 2015 #4
Because anthrax is common in nature and there is a lot of medical research ongoing. hack89 Nov 2015 #15
Bull shit this was weapons grade modified anthrax Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #17
They also produce and distribute "natural" anthrax spores for medical research hack89 Nov 2015 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Phil1934 Nov 2015 #5
I'm sure someone will suggest throwing more money at the Pentagon to solve this. Scuba Nov 2015 #6
Those dumb clerks. Octafish Nov 2015 #7
I don't think some understand Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #8
Head of the FBI’s Anthrax Investigation Says the Whole Thing Was a Sham Octafish Nov 2015 #9
Imagine the comedy skit... Honey? What did you do today? Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #12
CLICK Octafish Nov 2015 #13
That's brillant Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #14
I wasn't the clerks fault hack89 Nov 2015 #16
Well that explains a lot. Rex Nov 2015 #18
Mistake my ass! Rex Nov 2015 #10
Plus not even knowing 'cough' cough' how many places Ichingcarpenter Nov 2015 #11
Jesus H Christ in combat boots. hifiguy Nov 2015 #20
Yeah, I keep it in a shed out back John Poet Nov 2015 #21
kicking for anyone who missed it. bananas Jan 2016 #22

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. Dugway Proving Ground is the size of Rhode Island
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:25 AM
Nov 2015

Incidents

On January 26, 2011 Dugway Proving Ground was placed on lockdown. Al Vogel, a public affairs specialist for the installation, would only say that the lockdown began at 5:24 p.m. Employees were not allowed to leave, and those coming to work were not allowed in. Vogel said there were no injuries, no damage and no threats reported at the proving ground. There were about 1,200 to 1,400 people at Dugway when the lockdown occurred. It was later announced that the lockdown was in response to the temporary loss of a vial containing VX nerve agent. The lockdown was lifted on January 27 following recovery of the material.[8]


Since its founding in 1941, much of the activity at Dugway Proving Ground has been a closely guarded secret. Activities at Dugway included aerial nerve agent testing. According to reports from New Scientist, Dugway was still producing quantities of anthrax spores as late as 2015, more than four decades after the United States renounced biological weapons, and shipping the material to military bases and military contractors around the globe.[9][10] There were at least 1,100 other chemical tests at Dugway during the time period of the Dugway sheep incident. In total, almost 500,000 lb (230,000 kg) of nerve agent were dispersed during open-air tests.[9] There were also tests at Dugway involving other weapons of mass destruction, including 328 open-air tests of biological weapons, 74 dirty bomb tests, and eight furnace heatings of nuclear material under open air conditions to simulate the dispersal of fallout in the case of meltdown of aeronautic nuclear reactors.[9]
"Sheep Kill" incident[edit]


Dugway sheep incident

In March 1968, 6,249 sheep died in Skull Valley, an area nearly thirty miles from Dugway's testing sites. When examined, the sheep were found to have been poisoned by an organophosphate chemical. The sickening of the sheep, known as the Dugway sheep incident, coincided with several open-air tests of the nerve agent VX at Dugway. Local attention focused on the Army, which initially denied that VX had caused the deaths, instead blaming the local use of organophosphate pesticides on crops. Necropsies conducted on the dead sheep later definitively identified the presence of VX. The Army never admitted liability, but did pay the ranchers for their losses.

On the official record, the claim was for 4,372 "disabled" sheep, of which about 2,150 were either killed outright by the VX exposure or were so critically injured that they needed to be euthanized on-site by veterinarians. Another 1,877 sheep were "temporarily" injured, or showed no signs of injury but were not marketable due to their potential exposure. All of the exposed sheep that survived the initial exposure were eventually euthanized by the ranchers, since even the potential for exposure had rendered the sheep permanently unsalable for either meat or wool.
The incident, coinciding with the birth of the environmental movement and anti-Vietnam War protests, created an uproar in Utah and the international community.

The incident also starkly underscored the inherent unpredictability of air-dispersal of chemical warfare agents, as well as the extreme lethality of next-generation persistent nerve agents at even extremely low concentrations.



U.S. GAO report[edit]
The U.S. General Accounting Office issued a report on September 28, 1994, which stated that between 1940 and 1974, DOD and other national security agencies studied "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of weapons tests and experiments involving hazardous substances.


The quote from the study:
“ ... Dugway Proving Ground is a military testing facility located approximately 80 miles southwest of Salt Lake City. For several decades, Dugway has been the site of testing for various chemical and biological agents. From 1951 through 1969, hundreds, perhaps thousands of open-air tests using bacteria and viruses that cause disease in human, animals, and plants were conducted at Dugway... It is unknown how many people in the surrounding vicinity were also exposed to potentially harmful agents used in open-air tests at Dugway.[11]


More specifically, reports of certain nerve agents such as tetrodotoxin, and datura stramonium, have been tested at this military base. The complete nerve agent was code-named "VX"—one of a series of "V" nerve agents tested at the base. On January 27, 2011, the Dugway Proving Grounds was put on full lockdown for several hours, as an investigation into missing vials of the agent was undertaken. It was eventually recovered, and the incident was described simply as a mislabeling problem.[12][13][14]


Anthrax shipments[edit]
In May 2015 it was revealed that Dugway lab had inadvertently shipped live anthrax bacillus to locations around the country.

Budget........................ well that's classified and need to know

See wikipedia and Salt Lake Tribune.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2562389-155/6-things-to-know-about-utah

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Because anthrax is common in nature and there is a lot of medical research ongoing.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:25 PM
Nov 2015

the research is done on dead spores - which these shipments were supposed to be.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
19. They also produce and distribute "natural" anthrax spores for medical research
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

many of the labs that received Dugway anthrax were doing vaccine research.

And they were not weaponized - instead of being shipped as a powder, it was shipped in a diluted liquid form.




Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. I don't think some understand
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 11:20 AM
Nov 2015

that each individual weapons grade biological weapons sample had to be labeled, approved, double checked, certified, packaged and then sent............ yep clerks......that's the ticket and problem...... loved that movie



Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Head of the FBI’s Anthrax Investigation Says the Whole Thing Was a Sham
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 12:16 PM
Nov 2015
A "Perception Management" campaign.



Head of the FBI’s Anthrax Investigation Says the Whole Thing Was a Sham

By Washington's Blog
Global Research, April 17, 2015

Agent In Charge of Amerithrax Investigation Blows the Whistle

The FBI head agent in charge of the anthrax investigation – Richard Lambert – has just filed a federal whistleblower lawsuit calling the entire FBI investigation bulls**t:



In the fall of 2001, following the 9/11 attacks, a series of anthrax mailings occurred which killed five Americans and sickened 17 others. Four anthrax-laden envelopes were recovered which were addressed to two news media outlets in New York City (the New York Post and Tom Brokaw at NBC) and two senators in Washington D.C. (Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle). The anthrax letters addressed to New York were mailed on September 18, 2001, just seven days after the 9/11 attacks. The letters addressed to the senators were mailed 21 days later on October 9, 2001. A fifth mailing of anthrax is believed to have been directed to American Media, Inc. (AMI) in Boca Raton, Florida based upon the death of one AMI employee from anthrax poisoning and heavy spore contamination in the building.

Executive management at FBI Headquarters assigned responsibility for the anthrax investigation (code named “AMERITHRAX”) to the Washington Field Office (WFO), dubbing it the single most important case in the FBI at that time. In October 2002, in the wake of surging media criticism, White House impatience with a seeming lack of investigative progress by WFO, and a concerned Congress that was considering revoking the FBI’s charter to investigate terrorism cases, Defendant FBI Director Mueller reassigned Plaintiff from the FBI’s San Diego Field Office to the Inspection Division at FBI Headquarters and placed Plaintiff in charge of the AMERITHRAX case as an “Inspector.” While leading the investigation for the next four years, Plaintiff’s efforts to advance the case met with intransigence from WFO’s executive management, apathy and error from the FBI Laboratory, politically motivated communication embargos from FBI Headquarters, and yet another preceding and equally erroneous legal opinion from Defendant Kelley – all of which greatly obstructed and impeded the investigation.

On July 6, 2006, Plaintiff provided a whistleblower report of mismanagement to the FBI’s Deputy Director pursuant to Title 5, United States Code, Section 2303. Reports of mismanagement conveyed in writing and orally included: (a) WFO’s persistent understaffing of the AMERITHRAX investigation; (b) the threat of WFO’s Agent in charge to retaliate if Plaintiff disclosed the understaffing to FBI Headquarters; (c) WFO’s insistence on staffing the AMERITHRAX investigation principally with new Agents recently graduated from the FBI Academy resulting in an average investigative tenure of 18 months with 12 of 20 Agents assigned to the case having no prior investigative experience at all; (d) WFO’s eviction of the AMERITHRAX Task Force from the WFO building in downtown Washington and its relegation to Tysons Corner, Virginia to free up space for Attorney General Ashcroft’s new pornography squads; (e) FBI Director’s Mueller’s mandate to Plaintiff to “compartmentalize” the AMERITHRAX investigation by stove piping the flow of case information and walling off task force members from those aspects of the case not specifically assigned to them – a move intended to stem the tide of anonymous media leaks by government officials regarding details of the investigation. (Lambert complained about compartmentalizing and stovepiping of the investigation in a 2006 declaration. See this, this and this)

This sequestration edict decimated morale and proved unnecessary in light of subsequent civil litigation which established that the media leaks were attributable to the United States Attorney for the District of the District of Columbia and to a Supervisory Special Agent in the FBI’s National Press Office, not to investigators on the AMERITHRAX Task Force; (f) WFO’s diversion and transfer of two Ph.D. Microbiologist Special Agents from their key roles in the investigation to fill billets for an 18 month Arabic language training program in Israel; (g) the FBI Laboratory’s deliberate concealment from the Task Force of its discovery of human DNA on the anthrax-laden envelope addressed to Senator Leahy and the Lab’s initial refusal to perform comparison testing; (h) the FBI Laboratory’s refusal to provide timely and adequate scientific analyses and forensic examinations in support of the investigation; (i) Defendant Kelley’s erroneous and subsequently quashed legal opinion that regulations of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) precluded the Task Force’s collection of evidence in overseas venues; (j) the FBI’s fingering of Bruce Ivins as the anthrax mailer; and, (k) the FBI’s subsequent efforts to railroad the prosecution of Ivins in the face of daunting exculpatory evidence.

Following the announcement of its circumstantial case against Ivins, Defendants DOJ and FBI crafted an elaborate perception management campaign to bolster their assertion of Ivins’ guilt. These efforts included press conferences and highly selective evidentiary presentations which were replete with material omissions. Plaintiff further objected to the FBI’s ordering of Plaintiff not to speak with the staff of the CBS television news magazine 60 Minutes or investigative journalist David Willman, after both requested authorization to interview Plaintiff.

In April 2008, some of Plaintiff’s foregoing whistleblower reports were profiled on the CBS television show 60 Minutes. This 60 Minutes segment was critical of FBI executive management’s handling of the AMERITHRAX investigation, resulting in the agency’s embarrassment and the introduction of legislative bills calling for the establishment of congressional inquiries and special commissions to examine these issues – a level of scrutiny the FBI’s Ivins attribution could not withstand.

After leaving the AMERITHRAX investigation in 2006, Plaintiff continued to publicly opine that the quantum of circumstantial evidence against Bruce Ivins was not adequate to satisfy the proof-beyond-a-reasonable doubt threshold required to secure a criminal conviction in federal court. Plaintiff continued to advocate that while Bruce Ivins may have been the anthrax mailer, there is a wealth of exculpatory evidence to the contrary which the FBI continues to conceal from Congress and the American people.

Exonerating Evidence for Ivins

CONTINUED with links...

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/head-fbis-anthrax-investigation-calls-b-s.html

Thank you for the OP and thread, Ichingcarpenter. Wish you were to become the owner and publisher of the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, in addition to heading The Disney Company.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
12. Imagine the comedy skit... Honey? What did you do today?
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:22 PM
Nov 2015

If I did they we would have to kill you ... but anyway

We shipped something that could wipe out 4 billion people on the planet and kills all animals around the world and forgot to deactivate it.....How was your day dear?

The patriot act wouldn't have passed without the anthrax attack.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. I wasn't the clerks fault
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:26 PM
Nov 2015

they thought they were shipping dead spores. It was the fault of whoever was suppose to ensure the spores were dead.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Well that explains a lot.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:20 PM
Nov 2015

Another CS confirmed from the horses mouth. Of course bootlickers will avoid this story like the plague.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. Plus not even knowing 'cough' cough' how many places
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

they sent it to in the first and then 3 months later finding out or admitting so many places they really did send it to? What else did they forget?

That's 194 labs around the world so its worse than your 59 number.

BTW....... its not just anthrax its weapons grade laboratory enhanced anthrax which is 10 to 100s times more deadly than just plain deadly anthrax.

Plain natural deadly anthrax results picture results



Weapons super grade anthrax picture results



Sorry that's classified

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. Jesus H Christ in combat boots.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:29 PM
Nov 2015

The Three Stooges playing plumber were better at their jobs.

Who the FUCK is in charge over there? Homer goddamn Simpson?

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