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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:31 PM Nov 2015

We Got Scammed $30-60 Billion by Government Contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan

http://billmoyers.com/2015/11/16/we-got-scammed-by-government-contractors-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/

Let’s begin with the $12 billion in shrink-wrapped $100 bills, Iraqi oil money held in the US. The Bush administration began flying it into Baghdad on C-130s soon after US troops entered that city in April 2003. Essentially dumped into the void that had once been the Iraqi state, at least $1.2 to $1.6 billion of it was stolen and ended up years later in a mysterious bunker in Lebanon. And that’s just what happened as the starting gun went off.

It’s never ended. In 2011, the final report of the congressionally mandated Commission on Wartime Contracting estimated that somewhere between $31 billion and $60 billion taxpayer dollars had been lost to fraud and waste in the American “reconstruction” of Iraq and Afghanistan. In Iraq, for instance, there was that $75 million police academy, initially hailed “as crucial to U.S. efforts to prepare Iraqis to take control of the country’s security.” It was, however, so poorly constructed that it proved a health hazard. In 2006, “feces and urine rained from the ceilings in [its] student barracks” and that was only the beginning of its problems.

In June 2014, after whole divisions of the Iraqi army collapsed and fled before modest numbers of Islamic State militants, abandoning much of their weaponry and equipment, it became clear that they had been significantly smaller in reality than on paper. And no wonder, as that army had enlisted 50,000 “ghost soldiers” (who existed only on paper and whose salaries were lining the pockets of commanders and others). In Afghanistan, the US is still evidently helping to pay for similarly stunning numbers of phantom personnel, though no specific figures are available. (In 2009, an estimated more than 25 percent of the police force consisted of such ghosts.) As John Sopko, the US inspector general for Afghanistan, warned last June: “We are paying a lot of money for ghosts in Afghanistan… whether they are ghost teachers, ghost doctors or ghost policeman or ghost soldiers.”

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We Got Scammed $30-60 Billion by Government Contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan (Original Post) ErikJ Nov 2015 OP
Sounds like a low-ball figure, imo. Crooks all. nt Mnemosyne Nov 2015 #1
So plenty of people would like to have us back again LakeVermilion Nov 2015 #2
not a scam, all nice and legal. And they continue to this day. librechik Nov 2015 #3
We were scammed by Cheney and Bush. Contractors do what contractors do. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #4
Same army trained by the "Brilliant" General Petraeus nakocal Nov 2015 #5
We'll just cut more social programs and abelenkpe Nov 2015 #6
And who can forget Rummy on 9-10-01 who told us the military couldn't account valerief Nov 2015 #7
My Answer to the We Can't Afford Social Programs McKim Nov 2015 #8
I'd say that is on the low end. blackspade Nov 2015 #9

LakeVermilion

(1,044 posts)
2. So plenty of people would like to have us back again
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:59 PM
Nov 2015

1. US contractors so we can be overcharged,
2. Iraqis government, so they can take their cut,
3. ISIS, so they can get more military equipment,
4. US government officials so they can set aside a few bucks for their post retirement;

nakocal

(555 posts)
5. Same army trained by the "Brilliant" General Petraeus
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:53 PM
Nov 2015

This is the same army trained by the "Brilliant" General Petraeus, hero of the right. The same General Petraeus who lost over a million small arms, and who gave classified information to a reporter.

Now tell me again why republicans are better in matters of foreign policy and national security?

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
6. We'll just cut more social programs and
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:57 PM
Nov 2015

Money for infrastructure, education, etc. to feed our need for more war. Because after, what? 15 years of war, of supplying different groups with arms, of drones bombing suspects in other countries, of special terrorist holding cells at Guantanamo bay, of spying on anyone for any reason we need to double down and do more of the same.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
7. And who can forget Rummy on 9-10-01 who told us the military couldn't account
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:05 PM
Nov 2015

for 2 trillion dollars missing?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
8. My Answer to the We Can't Afford Social Programs
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:17 PM
Nov 2015

Whenever a politician or person says we can't afford a raise in the minimum wage, social security, health care benefits, I say:
$4 billion? Threw that off the back of the truck in Iraq in two seconds in 2003, whadda ya mean, we can't afford it!

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