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Things that are a more serious threat to Americans than ISIS (Original Post) edhopper Nov 2015 OP
I'll add corporate influence/money in politics n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #1
ISIS is a really big problem melman Nov 2015 #2
In the overall scheme of things that directly affect COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #3
Until it's not melman Nov 2015 #15
Do you think it should take edhopper Nov 2015 #16
You have a better chance of contracting EBOLA while COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #18
Why do you sound.... daleanime Nov 2015 #28
ISIS is a big problem edhopper Nov 2015 #5
For Syria and the Middle East. jeff47 Nov 2015 #6
Agreed. We can't solve it . . . brush Nov 2015 #29
Not quite. jeff47 Nov 2015 #30
It's a totally entangled mess, agreed. brush Nov 2015 #34
When you can't fix it, it is better to walk away than to break it more. jeff47 Nov 2015 #35
Yes, aid in the form of food, shelter and cash, intelligence etc. No troops brush Nov 2015 #37
Politicians blustering about ISIS are far more dangerous than ISIS. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #4
Poverty. n/t demmiblue Nov 2015 #7
+1 historylovr Nov 2015 #33
IMO Mr Dixon Nov 2015 #8
Guns. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #9
How could i forget to add edhopper Nov 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author KamaAina Nov 2015 #11
Stepping in cat puke on my way to the bathroom at 3:00 am. Atman Nov 2015 #12
Trying to dance like Beyonce to Single Ladies in heels on a slippery floor. (Don't ask.) merrily Nov 2015 #13
Lying, misleading and otherwise deceptive politicians merrily Nov 2015 #14
Are we only to be concerned if the US is threatened? B2G Nov 2015 #17
Many in this country edhopper Nov 2015 #19
Well I've certainly seen a lot of ISIS minimizing lately B2G Nov 2015 #20
As the major threat to this country edhopper Nov 2015 #22
It's easy to see if one lacks the specific and particular context LanternWaste Nov 2015 #31
You're little shruggy man is trite. B2G Nov 2015 #32
I must be sub-literate edhopper Nov 2015 #36
There is also our Food supply edhopper Nov 2015 #21
Not waiting at least 30 minutes after eating a hot dog then go swimming. Heeeeers Johnny Nov 2015 #23
The Chamber of Commerce. eom Earth Bound Misfit Nov 2015 #24
H1Bs, offshoring of jobs. nt valerief Nov 2015 #25
Toxic water, toxic food. nt valerief Nov 2015 #26
By body count: American police officers. n/t Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #27

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
3. In the overall scheme of things that directly affect
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:31 PM
Nov 2015

your daily life, ISIS is way, way down at the bottom.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
15. Until it's not
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:06 PM
Nov 2015

Just like the the people at the EODM show. If you think that can't happen here you are delusional.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
16. Do you think it should take
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:09 PM
Nov 2015

the amount of resources it does, in place of things like lack of health care for all Americans, addressing Climate Change etc...

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
18. You have a better chance of contracting EBOLA while
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

simultaneously being struck by lightning than you ever will of being caught in a terrorist ambush here.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
5. ISIS is a big problem
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:32 PM
Nov 2015

mostly in the Middle East States, there are about 30,000 men fighting for ISIS.

But my point is that there are serious, fatal risks we ignore while pouring resources and attention to ISIS?

And yes the threat of ISIS need to be diminished from the current hysteria of "The BIGGEST threat to the US" that is going on.

Do you think more Americans will die from terrorism, or lack of Health Insurance?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. For Syria and the Middle East.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

Not so much a "big" problem for the US.

More to the point, ISIS is not a problem the US can solve.

brush

(53,847 posts)
29. Agreed. We can't solve it . . .
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:26 PM
Nov 2015

by ourselves — and I am in no way advocating boots on the ground — but the countries in the ME can't, or won't in the case of the Saudis who probably help fund ISIS, so it looks like we're stuck there.

At least the French and, who would've thunk it, the Russians are there, along with the Kurds/Turkey to help.

We're not doing this unilaterally like B/Chaney foolishly did. And disregard their so-called "coalition of the willing".

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. Not quite.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:29 PM
Nov 2015

The Russians are bombing anti-ISIS/anti-Assad rebels, in order to restore Assad to power.

Turkey is doing less than the absolute minimum required, because they need ISIS and the Kurds to keep fighting. If the Kurds weren't fighting ISIS, they'd likely be setting up Kurdistan. And once Kurdistan is founded, roughly the Eastern 1/3rd of Turkey will attempt to secede to join Kurdistan, triggering a civil war.

Nothing in the Middle East is an "us-versus-them" fight.

brush

(53,847 posts)
34. It's a totally entangled mess, agreed.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:38 PM
Nov 2015

I don't see how we can just walk away though because we (Bush/Cheney) broke Iraq and thus created ISIS and the refugee crisis.

Morally we need to do what we can to help. If Obama pulled us out we'd be slammed the world over and and have little trust or cooperation from other countries.

Oh, I should have added Iran to the other countries involved.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
35. When you can't fix it, it is better to walk away than to break it more.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

Walk away militarily. Supply various forms of aid (food, shelter, cash).

Continue to monitor what's going on via intelligence agencies, and disrupt anything that is actually dangerous to the US via extremely targeted, extremely small attacks (ie. bin Laden raid).

And then we get to wait through the unspeakable horrors that will happen as the people there work out the problems - those horrors will be worse if we keep trying to fix it.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. Politicians blustering about ISIS are far more dangerous than ISIS.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:32 PM
Nov 2015

But, I certainly agree with your examples.

Response to edhopper (Original post)

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
17. Are we only to be concerned if the US is threatened?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

I am actually much more concerned about Europe right now.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
20. Well I've certainly seen a lot of ISIS minimizing lately
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:14 PM
Nov 2015

This thread seems to reinforce that.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
22. As the major threat to this country
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

it should be minimized.

There are many things that are more severe that we are not addressing.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. It's easy to see if one lacks the specific and particular context
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:31 PM
Nov 2015

It's easy to see if one lacks the specific and particular context drawn to such an obvious degree for even the most sub-literate in the OP. Your response seems to reinforce that.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
21. There is also our Food supply
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:15 PM
Nov 2015

up to 9000 people die a year from food borne disease.

But there is an active move to further deregulate and not fund food inspection.

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