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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThings that are a more serious threat to Americans than ISIS
a thread to keep things in perspective.
I will start with a crumbling infrastructure, Climate Change and mentally ill people with guns.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)It makes no sense to try to diminish it.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)your daily life, ISIS is way, way down at the bottom.
melman
(7,681 posts)Just like the the people at the EODM show. If you think that can't happen here you are delusional.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)the amount of resources it does, in place of things like lack of health care for all Americans, addressing Climate Change etc...
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)simultaneously being struck by lightning than you ever will of being caught in a terrorist ambush here.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)so hopeful?
edhopper
(33,615 posts)mostly in the Middle East States, there are about 30,000 men fighting for ISIS.
But my point is that there are serious, fatal risks we ignore while pouring resources and attention to ISIS?
And yes the threat of ISIS need to be diminished from the current hysteria of "The BIGGEST threat to the US" that is going on.
Do you think more Americans will die from terrorism, or lack of Health Insurance?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Not so much a "big" problem for the US.
More to the point, ISIS is not a problem the US can solve.
brush
(53,847 posts)by ourselves and I am in no way advocating boots on the ground but the countries in the ME can't, or won't in the case of the Saudis who probably help fund ISIS, so it looks like we're stuck there.
At least the French and, who would've thunk it, the Russians are there, along with the Kurds/Turkey to help.
We're not doing this unilaterally like B/Chaney foolishly did. And disregard their so-called "coalition of the willing".
The Russians are bombing anti-ISIS/anti-Assad rebels, in order to restore Assad to power.
Turkey is doing less than the absolute minimum required, because they need ISIS and the Kurds to keep fighting. If the Kurds weren't fighting ISIS, they'd likely be setting up Kurdistan. And once Kurdistan is founded, roughly the Eastern 1/3rd of Turkey will attempt to secede to join Kurdistan, triggering a civil war.
Nothing in the Middle East is an "us-versus-them" fight.
brush
(53,847 posts)I don't see how we can just walk away though because we (Bush/Cheney) broke Iraq and thus created ISIS and the refugee crisis.
Morally we need to do what we can to help. If Obama pulled us out we'd be slammed the world over and and have little trust or cooperation from other countries.
Oh, I should have added Iran to the other countries involved.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Walk away militarily. Supply various forms of aid (food, shelter, cash).
Continue to monitor what's going on via intelligence agencies, and disrupt anything that is actually dangerous to the US via extremely targeted, extremely small attacks (ie. bin Laden raid).
And then we get to wait through the unspeakable horrors that will happen as the people there work out the problems - those horrors will be worse if we keep trying to fix it.
brush
(53,847 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)But, I certainly agree with your examples.
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)police brutality
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)the whole Fucking GOP!
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Atman
(31,464 posts)Really.
merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)I am actually much more concerned about Europe right now.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)seem to be.
B2G
(9,766 posts)This thread seems to reinforce that.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)it should be minimized.
There are many things that are more severe that we are not addressing.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's easy to see if one lacks the specific and particular context drawn to such an obvious degree for even the most sub-literate in the OP. Your response seems to reinforce that.
B2G
(9,766 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)cause i got no idea what you just said. double
edhopper
(33,615 posts)up to 9000 people die a year from food borne disease.
But there is an active move to further deregulate and not fund food inspection.