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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:24 AM Nov 2015

Steve Jobs Was The Son Of A Syrian Refugee



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"Steve Jobs’ biological father, Abdulfattah “John” Jandali, was born in 1931 to a prominent Syrian family, the youngest of nine children. He grew up in Homs, Syria, a city since ravaged by the nation’s civil war."

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Steve Jobs Was The Son Of A Syrian Refugee (Original Post) Turborama Nov 2015 OP
Well, now we know jberryhill Nov 2015 #1
LOL! Galileo126 Nov 2015 #3
*snort* smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #4
...and pay too much for the experience PeoViejo Nov 2015 #14
So what does that prove persuadable Nov 2015 #17
Very telling as it shows how long Syria has been unsettled-at war. riversedge Nov 2015 #2
Past immigrants/refugees = GOOD. Current/future immigrants/refugees = BAD. pampango Nov 2015 #5
Sorry. I meant to respond to the OP, not to you. pampango Nov 2015 #6
No problem. riversedge Nov 2015 #7
That would be the father who didn't want him right? GummyBearz Nov 2015 #8
His biological mother's parents wouldn't let her TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #10
Wow @ comment but do not forget his white American biological mother who signed the papers Person 2713 Nov 2015 #12
No he wasn't oberliner Nov 2015 #9
Thank you. TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #18
Well put oberliner Nov 2015 #32
Notice how it mentioned "biological father". Turborama Nov 2015 #20
Not on the image oberliner Nov 2015 #31
The article comes with the image. Turborama Nov 2015 #33
Bigots here will give 1001 excuses (like 1001 nights) why the analogy fails. closeupready Nov 2015 #11
Eh...maybe not the best example Yavin4 Nov 2015 #13
lol! Mosby Nov 2015 #15
Great bit. I never got the Jobs is God bullshit either. He stole the mouse from valerief Nov 2015 #19
He didn't steal anything from Xerox. Yavin4 Nov 2015 #21
Ha! Okay, Xerox was stupid enough to not value the invention and let Jobs "sample" it. nt valerief Nov 2015 #23
I am the daughter of an Egyptian Refugee RockaFowler Nov 2015 #16
Of course you are right. potone Nov 2015 #22
Very true! RockaFowler Nov 2015 #25
At the time, Saudis had not been busy radicalizing Muslims Yorktown Nov 2015 #35
Unless we are Native American, we are all of refugee lineage. This "I got mine...sucks to be you" libdem4life Nov 2015 #24
And a Muslim? n/t Old Union Guy Nov 2015 #26
So there!! whathehell Nov 2015 #27
Nope. Wrong. Indydem Nov 2015 #28
some refugees are criminals blowing up the Boston Marathon. What's your point? patsimp Nov 2015 #29
There you gone and crossed the line. Now Samsung and PC users everywhere will want to deny LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #30
One sparrow doesn't a spring make Yorktown Nov 2015 #34
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Well, now we know
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:30 AM
Nov 2015

If we let them in, then they will expand their plot to make our devices obsolete every four years.

They already took YouTube off of my Apple TV!

Galileo126

(2,016 posts)
3. LOL!
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:43 AM
Nov 2015

"Steve Jobs" ...making the world safe for average Americans to buy shit they don't need, at prices they can't afford, all the while exploiting kids in China and engineers in the USA to make Jobs a freaking saint.

Sometimes I have to complain. Jobs is/was a dick.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
5. Past immigrants/refugees = GOOD. Current/future immigrants/refugees = BAD.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:50 AM
Nov 2015

Every generation has the same attitude. We are really not that different from earlier American generations.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
10. His biological mother's parents wouldn't let her
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:18 AM
Nov 2015

marry his father because he was Syrian. They eventually did marry though and Steve has a biological sister, Mona Simpson, who is a writer.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
12. Wow @ comment but do not forget his white American biological mother who signed the papers
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:22 AM
Nov 2015

to give him up for adoption to please her parents
Hope you don't

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. No he wasn't
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:16 AM
Nov 2015

His parents were Paul and Clara Jobs.

It is really insulting when people are dismissive of someone's parents just because they became parents via adoption.

To quote his biography:

Jobs would become upset when Paul and Clara were referred to as "adoptive parents" as they "were my parents 1,000%."

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
18. Thank you.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:12 PM
Nov 2015

Adoption has occurred in our family.

I am his mother.

He is my child.

He's not my "adopted" child. That word has absolutely no place as a general descriptive of my child.

It's disgusting to read of the word "adopted son of" or "adopted daughter" of as if they will always be just a little bit...less.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
20. Notice how it mentioned "biological father".
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:25 PM
Nov 2015

I can't see anything in it that "dismisses" his adoptive parents. In fact, the article that is linked to actually uses the quote you did.

"Years later, Jobs would “bristle whenever anyone referred to Paul and Clara Jobs as his `adoptive’ parents or implied that they were not his `real’ parents,” Isaacson wrote. Jobs, who died in 2011, instead referred to his biological parents as “my sperm and egg bank.”"

valerief

(53,235 posts)
19. Great bit. I never got the Jobs is God bullshit either. He stole the mouse from
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:20 PM
Nov 2015

Xerox and was stupid enough to let Gates steal it from him. That's how I remember Jobs.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
16. I am the daughter of an Egyptian Refugee
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:51 AM
Nov 2015

My father came to this country through France in 1962
He was a refugee from the oppressive Egyptian regime at the time

The way people today talk about Syrians is just sickening to me
Not everyone who lives in the Middle East is a terrorist

potone

(1,701 posts)
22. Of course you are right.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:41 PM
Nov 2015

I'm afraid that that prejudice is going to get worse after the Paris attacks, even though it seems that European citizens were the attackers. But we have gone through these waves of immigrant and refugee bashing before, and come out the other side of it. Obama is holding strong on the necessity of separating refugees from terrorists. But this is just one more reason why it is imperative that the Republican do not win the White House.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
35. At the time, Saudis had not been busy radicalizing Muslims
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:40 PM
Nov 2015

Over the past 30 years, they have spent 90 billions promoting radical Islam.

So it does impact the average outlook of the average potential immigrant from 'muslim' countries where wahhabi ideology has been pumped in.

This should warrant a gradual and cautious way of welcoming in people coming from countries subjected to this ideological influence.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
24. Unless we are Native American, we are all of refugee lineage. This "I got mine...sucks to be you"
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:52 PM
Nov 2015

gets old. I am of Irish-German heritage who just happened to be born in the US. My maternal great-grandfather lost his land when they put up the Berlin Wall, at least that is what I was told.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
28. Nope. Wrong.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:13 PM
Nov 2015

Abdulfattah “John” Jandali was not a refugee. He was the son of a self made millionaire. He immigrated, legally, to America.

Nice try though.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
30. There you gone and crossed the line. Now Samsung and PC users everywhere will want to deny
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:24 PM
Nov 2015

all Syrian refugees access to the U.S. I guess somehow the operating system war had to get into this.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
34. One sparrow doesn't a spring make
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:34 PM
Nov 2015

Can't draw general rules from one isolated -happy- incident.

Besides, at the time, the Saudis had not been pumping 90 billion dollars over 30 years to radicalize Islam worldwide.

fyi, ISIS just released a statement that they embedded 4000 of their fighters in the flow of 1M refugees into Europe. Do you think they will stop at the gates of Ellis Island?

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