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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:48 PM Nov 2015

Susie Bright on the Sex-Obsessed Paris ISIS Manifesto

Yes, that Susie Bright ("Susie Sexpert&quot .

http://www.towleroad.com/2015/11/isis-manifesto/

Their obsession with sexual revenge, the revenge of the sexually rejected, is intense : They referred to the Bataclan nightclub as a place where where hundreds of “apostates” had gathered in a “profligate prostitution party” — that means a rock concert.

Bohemian Paris is on top of ISIS’ target list because it is the country of “obscenity and perversity.” Again, it’s Paris’ mythic reputation for the libertine, for free sexual exchange, for romance and unashamed ecstasy.

This “faith army,” this death cult built on sexual repression masked as religious purity– has a detailed manual about how to run a sex-slave market of their war captives, including rules of inheritance. Essentially, you can’t be a soldier in their army unless you buy into the faith that beautiful women everywhere are taunting and rejecting you, but you will teach them all a lesson by enslaving and raping them all day long — same with young boys. Everything “depraved” is holy when you’re inflicting it upon a slave — makes perfect sense, right?

At some point your Grand Wizard arranges a marriage with an appointed virgin your parents picked out for her dowry. She is of no erotic interest; she is a nonperson except as your baby-receptacle and income source. Siring sons is her husbandry.
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Susie Bright on the Sex-Obsessed Paris ISIS Manifesto (Original Post) KamaAina Nov 2015 OP
Wait, I thought they were fighting because of some US policies? FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #1
Yep GummyBearz Nov 2015 #30
Because Americans have a hard time realising that everything isn't always about them (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Nov 2015 #33
Everything that ISIS does is Obama's fault according to some here Democat Nov 2015 #34
I get it. Sex is only OK if the woman is unwilling. Warpy Nov 2015 #2
They are worse because their parents don't have basements. FSogol Nov 2015 #4
Alienated angry violent young men... hunter Nov 2015 #3
It's made worse by the fact islam is nevrotic about sex Yorktown Nov 2015 #5
I've met a few severely twisted Christians in my travels. hunter Nov 2015 #9
Oh, I have no doubt Christians have been/can be weird about sex Yorktown Nov 2015 #10
Christians have problems with that sort of thing too. hunter Nov 2015 #14
True. Especially with priest forced to be single. But I was talking about the holy texts. Yorktown Nov 2015 #16
Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus... hunter Nov 2015 #19
Better question: why would being a virgin mother prove God? Yorktown Nov 2015 #21
Seriously? You claim ignorance of Fundamentalist Christianity's obsession with female virginity? hunter Nov 2015 #41
Have mercy on the cacti Yorktown Nov 2015 #44
So what's all those priests' excuse? KamaAina Nov 2015 #22
Some brain malformation, according to medicine. Yorktown Nov 2015 #23
The sound like the college young republicans...nt joeybee12 Nov 2015 #43
Don't become a terrorist, join a band. Put down the gun and pick up a guitar NightWatcher Nov 2015 #6
Guitar, drumsticks, mic xmas74 Nov 2015 #7
You can, of course, do both! Scootaloo Nov 2015 #15
Yeehaw, jihad, the musical Yorktown Nov 2015 #17
Lol. Look at all those casings. Calista241 Nov 2015 #42
But don't they forbid music and dancing too? smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #24
H.L. Mencken's definition of Puritanism springs to mind. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #32
It's like the MRA's on steroids. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #8
ISIS is a waste of life. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #11
Bill Maher talked about this a couple of weeks ago on Real Time. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #12
Hmmm, makes sense. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #31
Yep. Sexual repression makes people nuts. ISIS is the cousin to our own anti-sex domestic puritans. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #13
The Duggars of TLC infamy would have been happy fundamentalist Muslims... hunter Nov 2015 #18
Indeed. From the manifesto: "targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #20
I have lived a sheltered life... Fumesucker Nov 2015 #36
I've noticed she has this odd symbiotic media relationship with "Wheelock College" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #39
And the whole "Freedom Fries" brigade ThoughtCriminal Nov 2015 #38
It seems to me the way to piss these people off is to have sex, watch smut, listen to rock and roll Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #40
I think she's on to something. Islamic societies seem to forbid any kind of emotional or physical smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #25
No sports? KamaAina Nov 2015 #26
I wasn't aware of that. But do Islamic cultures really encourage involvement in smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #28
Now we're getting somewhere BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #27
k and r niyad Nov 2015 #29
That's just the standard Islamic take on sexuality ramped up a few notches Fumesucker Nov 2015 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #37

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
1. Wait, I thought they were fighting because of some US policies?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:50 PM
Nov 2015

You mean they wrote down their reasons and people on DU are making up their own reasons?

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
30. Yep
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:16 AM
Nov 2015

And don't forget the "christians also do it!!" attempt to downplay certain angles to the atrocity

Democat

(11,617 posts)
34. Everything that ISIS does is Obama's fault according to some here
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:24 AM
Nov 2015

Let Susie Bright know that many DU members don't agree with her.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
2. I get it. Sex is only OK if the woman is unwilling.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

They sound like a lot of the little boys of all ages on 4chan.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
3. Alienated angry violent young men...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:51 PM
Nov 2015

... same shit as our own domestic terrorists, gangsters, and "lone wolf" mass murderers.



I'm not sure "ISIS" means anything more to some of them then the kids painting their gang graffiti on my back wall.

They don't feel like they've got anything to live for.


 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
5. It's made worse by the fact islam is nevrotic about sex
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:06 PM
Nov 2015

Dating: bad. 'Temporary marriages' with slaves: OK according to some Shia imams.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
9. I've met a few severely twisted Christians in my travels.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:12 PM
Nov 2015

My first "serious" relationship was like a David Lynch version of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" with her girlfriend attempting to kill herself in my bathtub.





 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
10. Oh, I have no doubt Christians have been/can be weird about sex
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:17 PM
Nov 2015

But as doctrines, Islam and Judaism take the cake on sex.

Some passages of the Quran and Talmud can be read as OK with pedophilia with very young kids.


hunter

(38,316 posts)
14. Christians have problems with that sort of thing too.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

The "purity" seekers more than most.

Pedophile pastors are common in Christianity, and not just the Catholic Church.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
16. True. Especially with priest forced to be single. But I was talking about the holy texts.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
Nov 2015

The Talmud and Quran have passages one interpretation of which can be condoning pedophilia. This is why child brides are so common in Yemen or Afghanistan (to be fair, and in Hindu India).

Not so in the NT which only -sarcasm- tacitly condones slavery.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
21. Better question: why would being a virgin mother prove God?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:55 PM
Nov 2015

Anyway, you probably know the anonymous gospel writers called mary a virgin because they mistranslated a prophecy.

There are two hebrew words usually translated 'virgin' in English. 'Bethulah' means virgin in the sense that we understand it. It was used, for example, in Isaiah 62:5. 'Almah' (the word used in Isaiah 7:14) simply means a young woman. Although it is sometimes used in the sense of a sexually pure woman, this is not it's exclusive usage. The context will usually point out the correct usage.

The confusion arose when the Greek Septuagint used the greek word 'parthenos' to translate Isaiah 7:14. This word, in Greek, does denote a sexually pure woman, and was the inspiration for the gospellers myth of the Virgin birth.


But still, Christians do not condone child brides, while Yemeni or Saudi imams do not have a problem with the practice.
The practice is also sanctioned by many among the country’s ultra-conservative religious authorities, including Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al Sheikh, the kingdom’s grand mufti.
"If a girl exceeds 10 or 12 then she is eligible for marriage, and whoever thinks she is too young, then he or she is wrong and has done her an injustice,'' Al Sheikh told a Riyadh university audience in January as reported by the newspaper Al Hayat.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/saudi-arabia/090416/child-marriage-case-showcases-deep-splits-saudi-society


hunter

(38,316 posts)
41. Seriously? You claim ignorance of Fundamentalist Christianity's obsession with female virginity?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:50 PM
Nov 2015

You overlook all those puritanical "abstinence only" evil clowns protesting on the sidewalk outside your local Planed Parenthood clinic, harassing fifteen year old girls, you don't see them as a similar sort?

Or the Christian fathers who shoot and kill the boys the find in their daughter's bedrooms?

I like to think all Fundamentalists of this sort end up in hell getting fucked over by demons with cholla cactus dicks, the Christians among them included.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylindropuntia_bigelovii


 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
23. Some brain malformation, according to medicine.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:13 PM
Nov 2015

Pedophile priests, like most pedophiles, appear to suffer from a brain malformation.

But the Talmud or Quran sentences which are ambiguous on the subject make it worse.

It's compounded by some clerics which would also benefit from a mental hospitalisation.

The practice is also sanctioned by many among the country’s ultra-conservative religious authorities, including Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al Sheikh, the kingdom’s grand mufti.
"If a girl exceeds 10 or 12 then she is eligible for marriage, and whoever thinks she is too young, then he or she is wrong and has done her an injustice,'' Al Sheikh told a Riyadh university audience in January as reported by the newspaper Al Hayat.


NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Don't become a terrorist, join a band. Put down the gun and pick up a guitar
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:08 PM
Nov 2015

Jeez, dumbasses.

That'll get you laid.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
42. Lol. Look at all those casings.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:04 PM
Nov 2015

I'd be surprised if they could hit the broad side of a barn shooting like that. Total incompetents with guns.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. But don't they forbid music and dancing too?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:21 PM
Nov 2015

No fun allowed. I think that is why they are so bitter and miserable.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. H.L. Mencken's definition of Puritanism springs to mind.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:27 AM
Nov 2015

"The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy"


 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
12. Bill Maher talked about this a couple of weeks ago on Real Time.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:27 PM
Nov 2015

He said the common thread in young terrorists was male sexual frustration and hatred of women. Lack of normal interaction of any kind with women, and not even being able to see a woman's face.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. Hmmm, makes sense.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:34 AM
Nov 2015

Would be interesting to see an actual scientific study on this. They obviously have a problem with women, that is for sure.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. Yep. Sexual repression makes people nuts. ISIS is the cousin to our own anti-sex domestic puritans.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:31 PM
Nov 2015
Bohemian Paris is on top of ISIS’ target list because it is the country of “obscenity and perversity.” Again, it’s Paris’ mythic reputation for the libertine, for free sexual exchange, for romance and unashamed ecstasy.


Susie Bright has been attacked here in the west by our own would-be censors of nudity and porn, has she not?

hunter

(38,316 posts)
18. The Duggars of TLC infamy would have been happy fundamentalist Muslims...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:41 PM
Nov 2015

... had they been born in an Islamic community.

Same shit, different label.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. Indeed. From the manifesto: "targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity"
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:53 PM
Nov 2015

They seem to sit on the philosophical intersection of Rick Santorum, Gail Dines, and Charles Manson.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
39. I've noticed she has this odd symbiotic media relationship with "Wheelock College"
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:32 PM
Nov 2015

As in, who is Gail Dines? What are her qualifications?

Oh. she's a professor at Wheelock College, silly.

Great? Wheelock College? Never heard of it.

...You've never heard of Wheelock College?

it's the school with Gail Dines on the faculty!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. It seems to me the way to piss these people off is to have sex, watch smut, listen to rock and roll
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:33 PM
Nov 2015

...they didn't specifically mention weed but I bet they hate that too.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. I think she's on to something. Islamic societies seem to forbid any kind of emotional or physical
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

release wholesale. No sports, music, dancing, free love - in other words, no fun. Could that be why they are so frustrated and bitter? Nothing but religious duty and miserable drudgery.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. I wasn't aware of that. But do Islamic cultures really encourage involvement in
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:36 PM
Nov 2015

sport? I remember when I was traveling abroad years ago in a pension in Italy, we were staying with a young man from a Muslim country in Rome. He was an athlete and I believe he was trying out for the Olympics, but he said that people in his country were out to kill him for his involvement in international sport. I think he was a soccer player. Sorry, I can't remember more of the details, but I remember he was in fear for his life simply because he chose a life of an athlete. It shocked me at the time, such a thing had never occurred to me. He was a very nice young man. I hope he is ok today.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
27. Now we're getting somewhere
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:34 PM
Nov 2015
Their obsession with sexual revenge, the revenge of the sexually rejected, is intense...


This “faith army,” this death cult built on sexual repression masked as religious purity...


They killed beautiful young people on a Friday night. Date night. Boogie night. Shame on the victims for living full lives. Thank you, Susie.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
35. That's just the standard Islamic take on sexuality ramped up a few notches
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:06 AM
Nov 2015

Islam is sex phobic anyway, ISIS just takes that phobia, turns the knob to eleven and breaks it off.

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