Let's Be Honest, We Don't Care About The Problems In France Or Europe

[SoCalMusicLover]

When it hits us here, and it will, then we'll get angry and riled up.

After it's our 9/11, our Embassy Takeover, our Pearl Harbor....then we'll start talking tough.

Perhaps President Obama knows more than we do. Maybe the wait and don't panic approach is the sensible one.

But this is not "W" going after some boogie man in the wrong country. ISIS is gaining momentum and confidence with each attack. Two separate attacks within a month claiming over 100 lives each time.

Hope and pray I'm wrong, but if it happens, Obama will look like a fool, and the Democrats could very well lose the next Presidential election, possibly Congress as well. This is his daily briefing, only this time the whole world is watching. Should we do nothing, and get attacked, Democrats stand to lose the most.

From reading other threads, I guess I'm in the minority, but I think these bastards need to be hit, and hit hard and constantly. Eliminated, not contained. The enemy is not going to give up until they're dead.

I was 100% against the Iraq war, but I was also 100% for going into Afghanistan to get the Taliban. The longer this goes, the more chance there will be an attack here, and by then, the enemy may be too organized and powerful to destroy. Just my opinion.

[dorkzilla]

1. Some of us have STRONG ties to Europe - I care DEEPLY nt

[Tipperary]

15. Yes, exactly.

Thank you.

The ignorance of some in America is just amazing.

[dorkzilla]

24. Unfortunately true.

I’m assuming you have Irish ties as do I (1st gen and I am very close to my family in Ireland) and I have lots of friends in England, France and Italy. I spend a lot of time in Europe as well. I don’t get this attitude...disgraceful.

Not only is this ridiculous but I feel WORSE about what’s going on in France because they didn’t join in with Bush’s clusterfuck of a war that started this whole chain of events. So we go to Freedom Fries to ‘we’ don’t really care about France or Europe....smh...

[Tipperary]

58. Yes, all my family lives in Europe.

Ireland, England, Germany, and Portugal.

Close friends in France.

Some of the posts I have seen here make me angry/sad/incredulous.

[JustAnotherGen]

80. Me too

Family in Italy and Germany.

Dear friends in France, England,Ireland and Norway.

[dorkzilla]

93. Which would lead one to believe we are not the minority

I dont know where the hell people come up with these things...

[greatauntoftriplets]

71. I also have family ties to Europe, specifically France, Luxembourg and Belgium.

You can bet that I care deeply.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

96. I fly the Union Jack for a good reason.

[Initech]

2. Considering that the events in France involved a lot of American music...

I'm really surprised that more people don't care. Shit, if I had been in Paris last week, you can bet your ass that I'd definitely be at that Eagles of Death Metal show. I'd also be at one or more of the Deftones shows that were scheduled at the Bataclan. For a California music fan like I am this latest act of terrorism hits way too close to home for comfort.

[PowerToThePeople]

3. Um, the taliban was a bait and switch.

We went in to supposedly go after al'queda (sp) and bin laden.

Taliban was used as a later boogieman to keep the mic dollars rolling in. Dollars from the blood of innocents.

[Warren DeMontague]

76. The Taliban was very much an issue at the time and tied to Al Qaeda/Bin Laden.

We could have had Bin Laden at Tora Bora, but that was a Bush/Rumsfeld fuckup of the first magnitude.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

4. Earlier, I jokingly referred to myself as the board's "temporary Republican".

And that was because I also want to hit them hard. People bring up a lot of great points about what started all of this, about the atrocities we've committed in the Middle East, and so on. I was more receptive to those good points before this happened on Friday. And maybe I should be spending more time thinking about Beirut and about recent attacks in Nigeria. But I'm not. I'm thinking about ISIS. I'm thinking about Paris. I'm thinking about revenge.

[PowerToThePeople]

7. "I am thinking about revenge."

And sounding very progressive, liberal, and left leaning doing so.

DisgustipatedinCA
4. Earlier, I jokingly referred to myself as the board's "temporary Republican".
And that was because I also want to hit them hard. People bring up a lot of great points about what started all of this, about the atrocities we've committed in the Middle East, and so on. I was more receptive to those good points before this happened on Friday. And maybe I should be spending more time thinking about Beirut and about recent attacks in Nigeria. But I'm not. I'm thinking about ISIS. I'm thinking about Paris. I'm thinking about revenge.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

9. Did you really think I hadn't predicted a post JUST LIKE THIS would be a consequence of my post?

I did; nothing you've said surprises me. Did you notice the "temporary Republican" part of my words? I get it--I'm out of the DU mainstream right now. But what I posted was an honest portrayal of some of the things going through my head right now, and for that, I'm not apologizing to you or anyone else. I hope your head feels better soon.

[uppityperson]

12. I'm thinking not about revenge but about limiting such crimes in the future.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

33. Yeah, and that's the smart kind of thinking that needs to be done.

I'm doing a little of that myself, but as I've already confessed, I'm more preoccupied with revenge right now. And I have a pretty good idea of just how hypocritical my feelings are, given that I'm not giving equal time to other atrocities, nor am I spending a lot of time thinking about how we (the US, the West) have made a bed that we're now having to sleep in. I'm also aware that my notions of revenge could get right in the way of those longer-term aims. But there's still a big part of me (is this a cave man thing or just something in my own personality?--not sure) that wants to hit them very, very hard in order to convey the message "you don't hurt me or mine without hell being rained down on you tenfold". Instead of stopping again to say that I'm aware of some of the hypocrisies in what I've typed, let's just shortcut it and let me remind you I've been here since 2001, so I'm very comfortable with what constitutes de facto DU dogma, and I'm well outside of it with my opinion on this matter.

I can't imagine NOT reacting very strongly to this terrorist attack. And I don't only want ISIS hit militarily--I want their financial legs cut out from under them (bomb those gas trucks), and I want to go after those who finance them (Qatar, Saudi Arabia). I completely agree with the President that we don't need more soldiers on the ground than we have in Syria already. But we can certainly help with efforts to kill them from above, and I believe we should do this. I also believe this should be decoupled from our now-unrealistic plans to unseat Assad, but that's a whole different topic.

So part of my response is just from extreme anger over this attack. It's a good thing I'm not in charge. But there's a cooler part of my head (I think) that still sees it as necessary to respond with force, with violence. This response should be just a part of a larger overall plan to cut ISIS methods of funding, supply lines, access to monies, and so on.

[SoCalMusicLover]

48. Financial Aspect Is Critical

Hurting them can come in many ways, but cutting off their financial access, or at least cutting it down, would hit them where it hurts. That is critical for success.

[uppityperson]

51. A close relative missed being in the shootings by minutes. I ate at one of the restaurants

that was shot up and stayed a 30 second walk away and have not heard from the person I rented from. My anger is personal also.

[Logical]

27. Ok there W!

[KamaAina]

79. Not to worry. The French have taken matters into their own hands.

It wasn't Paris, Texas that was attacked, after all.

[Yorktown]

94. I have relatives in Paris. I don't want revenge, I want Islam talked into some sense

Forget ISIS, they are an epiphenomenon. The Iraqis, Turks, etc will beat them down.

But the ongoing radicalization in European or Pakistani madrasas and mosques is the danger.

And the funding of these madrasas and mosques by KSA and Qatar is the source.
And the countless imams worldwide preaching death to apostates are active enablers.
And the Muslim Brotherhood worldwide (including CAIR) push some literalism too.

[shraby]

5. Hitting them hard worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't

it?
What do you think created ISIS in the first place?
How hard do we have to hit them? Make the middle-east glass with bombs? That's the only way to effectively eradicate extremists. Kill every living soul in the area.
Maybe you should do a bit more DEEP thinking about this issue instead of just listening to the t.v. idiots we call pundits to be kind to them.

[SoCalMusicLover]

14. Then Get Used To The New Normal

That's really what it's all about.

It's a miracle we defeated the Japanese and the Nazi's. We should have gone easier on them since defeating them was too impossible.

[Logical]

30. Wow, what a stretch! So this is like WW2 to you? Nt

[yeoman6987]

25. We were not aggressive in Iraq of afghanistan

We should here been in and out in a month and not worry about making them a democracy they didn't want.

[countingbluecars]

6. How would you suggest we hit hard and

eliminate them?

[SoCalMusicLover]

17. That's Not My Job

Our "greatest military in the world" must not be that good, huh?

Why the Fuck do we spend so much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on our military if it can't do anything to defeat a very viable enemy?

Again, should we just accept our fate, and wait for it?

The fact that WE caused this, due to the ineptitude of our prior "leader," it is even more so that we should clean it up.

[PowerToThePeople]

21. How about YOU get your boots on the ground

and go get them.











F'ing chickenhawk.

[countingbluecars]

38. Clean it up by doing what was done

before? Maybe the leaders of the "greatest military in the world" know better. Perhaps increased and improved intelligence and strategic missions will be the answer.

[muriel_volestrangler]

59. 'eliminating' a group of several thousand people would mean killing many innocent people

in the towns and cities they hold. They know that, and will rely on that causing more resentment from relatives of the dead, and fundamentalists who are close to turning violent, to turn to violence in response.

Saying that the president should 'eliminate' all those people does mean that you need to put forward an idea of how that should happen, so people can point out what the consequences might be.

[HuckleB]

8. We wouldn't be dealing with this if we hadn't been stupid enough to go to war in the first place.

And so you want us to simply repeat that mistake?

[Hortensis]

42. We didn't create ISIS. We just gave them a chaotic,

leaderless region to expand in before the Arab Spring phenomena provided several others.

[uppityperson]

10. Who doesn't care? How does killing people destroy an ideology?

Yes, stop the asses from murderous actions. But there is no way to kill an ideology. The only way to change that mindset is to give positive options for change. Bomb Syria to nothing and what happens but more people get angry because you've killed so many innocents.

Do what is needed to stop crimes from being committed but be VERY careful to target only the criminals because the families and friends of others will then have you and join the cause. Indiscriminate bombing only increases the number of those hating you.

Spend money instead on schools to educate in a secular, non religious manner and save the next generation. Make hospitals and healthcare available. Spend money promoting positive things rather than bombs.

This is, of course, a more long term strategy but will make longer lasting changes than trying to, I don't know, flatten a country.

It is easier to take back territory, more difficult to try and stop an ideology by killing people.

[SoCalMusicLover]

11. They Are Coming For Us

Paris did not treat the January attacks as an act of war. Which it was. So ISIS clarified it for them.

Should the U.S. wait to see if we can outsmart them and uncover any plots before they happen? Not in my opinion.

We don't need to like going to war as Democrats. FDR did not want to enter WWII, but some things are important enough.

But in many ways, just like the gun issue, we're impotent.

So let's just accept our new reality. Along with all the new security restrictions headed our way. Just don't expect them to always be successful. Accept the fact that an attack might be coming, and don't be surprised and shocked if it does.

And those who are on the side of waiting and peaceful solutions now, don't change your opinion if 100's of American lives are lost in an attack on U.S. soil.

Whatever...maybe President Obama can get up and make a sad sounding speech like he does after 25 kids are killed, or some university is shot up.

[shraby]

22. I feel sorry for you. You can't see there might be solutions to

the problem besides killing off the opposition along with innocent people because "oh well, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time".
Does striking them hard mean they won't retaliate? You're talking about a mind set that holds a grudge for countless generations as a matter of family honor.
There must be a better way, and we must look for it..for our children and our children's children.

[yeoman6987]

31. If we are hit in the next 12 months, say hello to president trump.

And no I am not kidding.

[SoCalMusicLover]

46. THIS!

Treating this as an attack on America now, would be like what W did after 9/11. You remember, when he had 90% popularity and support?

Or wait until after an attack, and you can damn well bet the repubs would have the upper hand, and the majority of citizens would be in favor of war, with Obama getting blamed for acting too slowly.

Hillary Clinton is on tight ground as it is, if you think she survives Obama getting blamed, you're mistaken.

Hitting them and hurting them, even if there is not enough time to eliminate them, at least makes President Obama look tough, like he tried.

Perhaps the President should go on a ship with a banner that says...."Successfully Contained" And then try to explain it like W did.

[Eleanors38]

28. I think it is amusing how Every big tragedy is blamed on the...NRA...

several posts plastered in Gunz Discussion, stretching to find the usual bogeyman. Sad but amusing.

Incidentally, a Nat'l Guard armory was broken into and four (4) REAL assault rifles were stolen, for what purpose I don't know. Contrary to some opinionated folks, FULL AUTO rifles (like the M4s stolen) are hard to come by in "swamped with guns" U.S.A. You either get them by breaking in to armories, or by the difficult process of smugglimg.

Assault Rifles (like the ones used in Paris) can't be bought at Cabelas or Dixie Vim Gun works.

Just a little information.

[pampango]

74. THEY are coming for US! Who? The Chinese? The Mexicans? The Muslims?

Sounds like we ought to be very, very afraid and build some serious walls and unleash some major suspicion on all Muslims.

[B Calm]

13. How many more US soldiers do we have to sacrifice before we win?

So far as of the first of October we're at (US Soldiers) 6,850 Dead and 900,000 Injured!

[BootinUp]

16. "Perhaps President Obama knows more than we do"

Do you really think there's a chance he DOESN'T know more?

I think he covered everything pretty well. WE ARE and HAVE BEEN hitting them for like 2 years. The main problem is the Syrian civil war which increased the area which is an ungoverened free for all zone.

Taking the territory is not the biggest issue (relatively minor amount of blood and treasure), holding it is (major commitment of blood and treasure). How long do you want to occupy then?

[Trajan]

18. We ... Two little letters ...

= sweeping generalization ...

[pampango]

19. The liberal mantra applies here: We are all in this together.

It is not every man (or country) for himself the way conservatives would have it.

[gollygee]

20. I don't know

On one hand, my heart says, "Get rid of ISIS, whatever it takes."

But my head says that the more we "get rid of them," the worse leaders they end up with and the worse things are. I used to have a bumper sticker that said, "We are making enemies faster than we are killing them." I think that would be the case here as well. ISIS is hoping we'll strike and strike hard, because by doing that we give them the best recruitment tool they could possibly have.

[SoCalMusicLover]

40. So Worry About What Might Happen & Ignore What Is Happening?

Meanwhile ISIS is not going anywhere. They are growing more powerful and gutsy with each attack.

But given that we as a society think that there is not a big enough gun problem to do anything, it should not be a surprise for this either.

Maybe after an attack we can blame the mental health industry for all the deaths, just like many do with guns.

[guillaumeb]

23. France and Britain divided up the Middle East and drew national boundaries

with no respect for the people actually living there. What is happening in the Middle East is a direct consequence of that colonial interference. Countries from Lebanon all across the Mediterranean to Gibraltar were exploited, attacked, and had their resources stolen by European countries.

Even though many US citizens are unaware of these facts, the peoples of the Maghreb are well aware. And starting in the 1950's, the US joined in the interference into internal affairs. The West is now reaping the results.

That said, ISIS is a terror organization. But what do you think the people of Pakistan feel about US drone attacks? Terrorism?

[polly7]

36. +1000. nt.

[Logical]

26. So you think afghanistan worked out well? Nt

[SoCalMusicLover]

35. So Their Forces Are Obviously Superior To Ours

Then we should just admit that they are better at fighting than the U.S. military, with the BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$$$ directed towards them each year.

I'd like to think that our current Commander In Chief has more brains than our last one.

Not to mention we did not really do Afghanistan the right way, and it was merely a stepping stone to get to what W was really after, an ill advised war in Iraq, thus splitting our agenda, and killing any chance of success in either country.

[SoCalMusicLover]

29. What Purpose Is Our Military?

It's nice that we have Veteran's Day, stand for the National Anthem at every sporting event. Throw in God Bless America with flyovers during the 7th inning stretch.

But when we are threatened, when the real possibility of attack exists, I guess we should just throw our hands up and say, let's see if there is another way to work this out.

Some people on this board live in a bubble. They don't think that Obama or the Democrats stand to get any blame if we get attacked by an ISIS cell in the U.S. Yet we all blamed "W" after he did nothing after that daily briefing.

I assure you that the Repubs will put ALL the blame on President Obama and the Democrats, and then folks on these boards can sugar coat it all they want, but Joe Blow and the average dumb voter is going to sweep the Repubs into power, and then we can sit and complain about whatever war(s) they take us into.

[closeupready]

32. I agree. Look at history for similar examples. WWII in particular.

It was conflict happening 'over there', and it took Pearl Harbor to pull us in.

So while perhaps we care, we don't care that much.

[whathehell]

34. Who is this "we"?..You need to speak for yourself...I care about Europe, in fact, I'm

in Germany right now.

[johnson_z]

37. I do not concur!

Yes we do!
"We Don't Care About The Problems In France Or Europe"

You can not possibly be serious !?!?

[LannyDeVaney]

39. Your argument is all over the place. I'm glad you are running the show **

NT

[merrily]

41. I think we care a lot more about ISIL attacking France than we did about France

bombing Syria in November.

We cared so little about the Iraqi deaths and displacements we caused that we didn't bother to count them, even though we had overthrown the government, making us the only sheriff in town. Afghanistan, all those people did was happen to be in the country where the US had once wanted Ben Laden. Yet we bombed that country. Libya? Yemen? Egypt?

These are like tokens on a game board.

[Hortensis]

43. Yes. Most of us don't identify sufficiently with people in the

Middle East. Of course, that can't be said for those here whose families are from the Middle East.

[merrily]

50. We're human, as are they.

[B Calm]

45. 224 people lost their life on that Russian plane that was blown up just the other day. Where

was the outrage then and why now?

[merrily]

49. There was no outrage about the blown up plane? What are you talking about?

[B Calm]

52. Proof, you had to ask what I'm talking about.

[merrily]

53. Hah? Proof of what? I knew about the plane. I am asking you why you claim there was no outrage.

BTW, that plane, while tragic, has nothing to do with this thread or with my post about several nations in the Middle East, but I am curious what you are going on about anyway.

[B Calm]

54. Are you saying that we all screamed we stand with Russia? So yes, compaired to Paris

there was no outrage after the Russian airliner was blown out of the sky!

[merrily]

56. Oh, you're saying there was not as much made of an exploded plane as of an attack on a nation.

I can't think of a time when a hijacked plane, etc. caused anyone to call out "We stand with this nation or that."

People grieve for the passengers, though.

We attacked Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc. as nations, just as France was attacked as a nation. No matter what the headlines say, France attacked Syria. That is apples to apples, not apples to oranges.

[B Calm]

57. Oh please, the plane wasn't hijacked, it was blown up by ISIS!

[merrily]

61. Other planes have been blown up or crashed on purpose. Comparing a plane with a nation.

is apples and oranges. The comment from my prior post stands. It's not the same.

Also, not saying "We stand with Russia" does not equal "no outrage." There was plenty of outrage.

[B Calm]

62. Twice as many people were killed on the Russian airplane than died in Paris. There was NO outrage

like were seeing in America (mostly republicans) over Paris being attacked.

[merrily]

63. Disagree. Again, a plane and a nation are different. It's not about the # of people.

[B Calm]

64. Pearl Harbor was not part of the United States either!

[merrily]

65. Jaysus.

[B Calm]

67. That all you got?

[merrily]

68. We said all that was worth saying several rounds ago, but an attack on the US

naval fleet is an attack on the US. Sorry you didn't see that.

[B Calm]

69. LOL

and attack of a plane load of Russian people, is an attack on Russia! Sorry you didn't get it!

[Thinkingabout]

44. We, no don't say we because lots of Americans care, we have had attempts here in the US, it can

Happen and with success. What a cruel statement to make.

[MFM008]

47. we are capable of multi tasking

I can be outraged about Russian planes, Paris and Beruit. I care about our European friends, if someone need a place that was close to me they would be on the couch sharing it with a very unpleasant cat. These scenes bring back memories of 911 for me, I don't know why and I'm in a pretty anxious state. If you can just blow all this off, congratulations.

[MADem]

55. Speak for yourself--you do not represent the bulk of this nation, and your

comments--such as they are--are yours, and yours alone.

I was raised in Europe, among other locales. I have enormous empathy for what the French are enduring right now.

Not everyone is an isolationist, uninterested in what goes on around the globe.

[redwitch]

60. I care. nt

[lame54]

66. It's like there is a simple solution that we just haven't tried...

If there was a definitive way to get rid of them they would be gone

Dropping more bombs or sending in massive troops is not going to make this go away

Shouting "Just do something" is not a plan

[La Lioness Priyanka]

70. just because we desire to do something, doesn't mean something should be done

the reason we are seeing these isis attacks are in part because isis is losing the groundwar and has been pushed out of some areas in previously controlled.

you can't eliminate them without killing millions of civilians, is that an acceptable thing just because they are not european civilians?

[AZ Progressive]

72. Imagine the emotional impact that another terrorist attack in the U.S. would do

You just have to remember 9/11 when the second plane hit the second WTC tower

[CTyankee]

73. I disagree. See my post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027351203

maybe you are right about the heartland, but NYC was a real different place after 9/11.

[Warren DeMontague]

75. There are people here who would go to war against Sports Illustrated over the Swimsuit Issue.

ISIS/Terrorism attacks, not so much.

[Kilgore]

78. Bravo!

[gollygee]

83. Bullshit

People can express dislike over something without wanting to go to war over it. Ridiculous hyperbole.

[Warren DeMontague]

84. Right. We had a full month of temper tantrums over the swimsuit issue, IIRC.

At least one person said that the magazine's very existence "ruined my whole year"

The expressions of WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS OUTRAGE IMMEDIATELY ran approx 100 to one, versus the attack in Paris.

Hell, with Charlie Hebdo it was even worse, and that's not even counting the times that the same people who want to outlaw magazines with pictures of women in bathing suits, were also lined up around the block to blame the cartoonists for "inciting" their attackers.

Yes, yes, i know, the real problem is "so-called free speech"

[gollygee]

85. Who suggested war? n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

86. hyperbole, yes. Ridiculous, no.

In fact, I'd say it struck a nerve.

[gollygee]

87. Only in your ridiculous hyperbole

You're comparing a response to ISIS attacking Paris to a response to the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. You bring up the swimsuit issue FREQUENTLY. It seems to be a touchstone issue for you.

[Warren DeMontague]

88. What is ridiculous is the crowd here that sees no silliness in going all DEFCON 5 over a picture of

3 women in bathing suits smiling on a beach.

It puts a lot of shit in perspective, yes it does, especially when considering the things to which they go "meh"

[NCTraveler]

77. The problem I see with that approach is that...

There is no end for it. Each one you kill adds two more of their family or friends to more extremist views. Also, by their tactics, such force will have innocent deaths far to often. If we go your approach, I would rather see them ramp it up high, then pull completely back and put more of a policing action in place.

[Agnosticsherbet]

81. If it happens here before the next election, Republicans will win.

And a majority will demand that we go to war.

[B Calm]

99. It's almost like some DU'ers want that.

Endless War

[Tommy2Tone]

82. Let me be honest and make a few points

When it hits here? It has already hit here and under a Republican president who was warned in advance.

Perhaps President Obama knows more than we do. Ya think?

From reading other threads, I guess I'm in the minority, but I think these bastards need to be hit, and hit hard and constantly. Eliminated, not contained. The enemy is not going to give up until they're dead.
They are being hit and hit hard. That's whey they are resorting to terrorism. Terrorism is proof they are losing.

[alarimer]

89. I care because I don't want the barbarians to win.

That's all these terrorists are. They are barbaric adherents to some 10th century ideology that has no place in a civilized world. I want them gone. I want them dead, to be honest. They attack the very places that allowed the Enlightenment to flourish. They attack people out having a good time in a free and open society. This pisses me off. They cannot be allowed to change us. We need to be rub our freedom in their faces. Fuck those barbarian clowns.

[Warren DeMontague]

90. "rub our freedom in their faces"- agree 100%, exactly.

It's free people, living their lives, listening to rock and roll, having sex, using birth control, drinking wine, smoking weed, watching Game of Thrones on HBO even though it has teh awful nekkid boobiez... having fun, basically.

that's what pisses off the fundamentalist, authoritarian control freaks of this planet.

[bigwillq]

91. I care to an extent, but care more about

What's happening in my own country. The USA is mess. I would rather see our government and military try to fix this country before they try to fix everywhere else.

[Yo_Mama]

92. I do. Very much. n/t

[bhikkhu]

95. I care a lot about Europe

In some ways, Europe represents a better, more evolved and caring society than our own. Good government has been a challenge here, and the EU has been an excellent model of inclusiveness and intelligence. On issues of social and economic inequality, and peaceful co-existence, they tend to lead the way. I would like to see them do well and suffer less, and I'd like to see us follow along.

[smirkymonkey]

97. +1000

[xmas74]

98. I have old friends stationed overseas.

When something like this happens, it hits home. It doesn't even matter if they were on scene at the time, I still worry.

[pampango]

100. I suspect that conservatives do not care about France or Europe. They are "OTHERS" just like

Mexicans, Chinese, Syrians, etc. Liberals are a different animal, IMHO. We do care and see the world is an interconnected place in which 'we are all in this together'. Cooperation beats walls and 'every country for itself'.

[ucrdem]

101. Let's see, we spent all last year freaking out about NSA surveillance

and the year before freaking out about drone strikes and now we're supposed to freak out because Obama isn't doing enough?

Sorry, no sale.

[marmar]

102. So what do you propose? Bombing London, Istanbul, New York?

ISIS isn't some centralized entity based in one area. They're decentralized, in places all over the globe. .... Fighting terror isn't like fighting a country. The past couple of debacles in the Middle East should have made that abundantly clear.

[get the red out]

103. I trust President Obama

He isn't W, and I am sure he won't ignore intelligence briefings.

[Marrah_G]

104. I care