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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:21 PM Nov 2015

"ISIL’s strategy is to split the world into two camps"

"They want to start WWIII"

“There is a reason ISIL still want to appear so powerful,” he said, “why they don’t want to acknowledge that the land they control has been taken from weak enemies, that they are pinned down by airstrikes, or that just last weekend they lost a significant part of their territory.
“ISIL don’t want you to know they would quickly be crushed if they ever faced a proper army on a battlefield.

“They want you to fear them. They want you to get angry. They want all of us to become hostile, and here is why – ISIL’s strategy is to split the world into two camps. It is that black and white. Again, we know this because they told us.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/shamisivasubramanian/waleed-alys-powerful-speech-following-the-paris-attacks-is-a?utm_term=.glEG1dzMy3#.xc5Rjdarx9

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/isils-strategy-is-to-split-world-into.html


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MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Oooohkay--who wants to be on the "Crazed, murderous assholes" team?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

Anyone? Buehler?

Who wants to be on the "Sane, pissed off, cut-the-crap, and let's not paint with a broad brush" crew? One at a time, please!!! Woah!!

"Mouse That Roared" indeed....

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
2. 80k-100k
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015


I expect the foreign fighters % would be higher if nobody tried to stop/arrest recruits travelling there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. You could triple that number and it would still be insignificant
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:36 PM
Nov 2015

relative to the populations of the nations of origin.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. I don't argue with that point either.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:46 PM
Nov 2015

But it's a separate issue from the recruitment practices of DAESH.

If you live with a strict father, who tells you what to do, who insists on things like chores, family obligations, good grades, etc., who won't let you "be a man" like you want to be, the promises of DAESH (your own house, your own wives, a position of authority) sound really "cool" to a young, dumb jerk whose brain hasn't fully formed.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Got to remember they hate that term, need to start using it.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:49 PM
Nov 2015

True plus it seems like DAESH is more like a death cult with no real purpose but to maim and destroy. Most dad's would never let their son's run off to join a death cult. IMO.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. That's why a lot of the DAESH recruits have 'sneaked off.' Even--especially, in fact--the girls.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:06 PM
Nov 2015

These girls are told that they'll be going to a place where they will be treated as grown women who can make their own decisions and won't be under the boot of their parents, that all of the men fighting for DAESH are handsome and strong, and will make a wonderful husband, that they will be respected like the mother of the prophet, blah-blah-blah, and they no longer have to live in a conflicted situation where their culture butts up against the Rhianna/Miley Cyrus/Beyonce kind of half-naked (or all naked) vibe, which is something they could never do or feel comfortable doing--they are leaving a place where they are consumed by envy because they can't fit in, to a place where they think they'll be the bee's knees, the most popular, rare as hen's teeth, pursued, and valued. They find out soon enough that this is not the case, but by then, it's too late.

Oneironaut

(5,500 posts)
7. It's really not hard to launch a terror attack.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:54 PM
Nov 2015

In terms of military action, the attack in France was pretty basic and uninteresting. The media acts like it was some kind of surgical strike with complex weapons and skilled attackers. The attackers did what almost everybody could do given the right supplies.

AK-47s are pretty much everywhere and are dirt cheap. Making a bomb, given the knowledge, really isn't hard. You could find this information in 10 minutes on the deep web (which isn't hard to access either).

The media is fairly easy impressed. ISIS really isn't that advanced or skilled. Most of them are really shitty soldiers. They're more myth them reality. They just find a niche environment (chaos, lawlessness) and spread there like a virus.

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