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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsISIS made two videos and said DC is next.
That would be the mother of all game changers and would open the proverbial gates of Hell.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)However, were they able to have mounted such attacks here, they would have already done so. They don't want us prepared; they want us frightened.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)lest we give the terrorists "exactly what they want."
Terrorists like the medieval ISIS are not exactly the greatest strategic political thinkers the world has ever produced. Has it ever occurred to you that delusional terrorists might not have a good grasp of what might happen to them if the west collectively launches a full military assault? Their religion-twisted minds probably believe they will maintain their "caliphate" and defeat the "infidel" armies.
I always laugh when I see people post "that's what the terrorists want." As if terrorists are some sort of brilliant, objective planners who can deceive the civilized countries into their nefarious and inescapable trap. In fact, they are delusional religious zealots who will be quite surprised when they "get what they want" and their "caliphate" is wiped into the dustbin of history.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Calm down and stop posting until you can do so responsibly.
bananas
(27,509 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)What does that mean? Is that your opinion? Or stated Government policy. And what would the "proverbial gates of Hell" mean to you? What do you think would happen?
These inflammatory general statements mean nothing without specifics. Please elaborate.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)EOM
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Why would an attack on Washington DC invoke Article 5, while an attack on Paris would not?
Please explain to me how our response will be different if Washington DC is attacked. Please elaborate on the details of the "Gates of Hell"
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)What should the American response be if ISIS perpetrates a Paris style attack on DC?
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)If Wash DC (or anyplace else in the US) gets attacked by ISIS, our response will be "boots on the ground". We will wait to be attacked, and then respond with ground forces.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)A Paris style attack on DC would raise the stakes exponentially and if not handled properly would strengthen the forces on the right and quite possibly hand the White House to the Republicants in 2016.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Since ISIS is an ongoing threat, shouldn't we put these troops on the ground BEFORE they attack us? Why wait? And you never answered the question why Article 5 would be invoked if Wash DC was attacked, but not Paris.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)To be candid it is beyond my ken to fashion an effective response to terrorism. If there were an effective response available terrorism would have been eliminated.
It is easier to describe what the response will be.
The French president has said his nation is at war. That makes the invocation of Article Five superfluous if not perfunctory.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)but what I don't get is why announce where/who you are going to attack?
I woke up today and the news is saying France was warned.
MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)They'll try to assault areas where the demographic is predominately young and liberal.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Response to philosslayer (Reply #15)
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philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Have you been paying attention at all? "Natural pool of supporters"? You think progressives could potentially be ISIS supporters?
ISIS doesn't WANT supporters. The only supporters they want are those who will join with them to kill as many people as possible.
Wow.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)Why specifically attack progressives? Many of these will unwittingly join conservatives in their anti-immigrant anti-Muslim rhetoric - which is certainly running in high-gear today.
My two cents...
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)ISIS LOVES anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rhetoric. It drives disaffected Muslims directly into their arms.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Everything about modern progressive culture is repellent to fundy assholes like Daesh. I very much suspect that the idea of "decadent" progressives being supporters horrifies them, actually. Daesh aren't interested in support from infidels, apostates, etc.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)openness and tolerance against us - knowing that we will not treat them the way they would treat us...
Township75
(3,535 posts)If anything bad happens then we can point fingers at the NRA and say that they claimed they would stop this too. We got all the scenarios covered.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Boots on the ground is another New term to sanitize and de-humanize war and carnage. Boots aren't killed...young men and women are.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you for your children's service.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Bucky
(54,013 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)They think they are under fire now? I really hope they are not that stupid because I really don't want to see our men and women deployed again.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)But they certainly want us to believe that they do.
840high
(17,196 posts)takes is a few cells.