Morning Joe has a full NeoCon slate this morning.

[annabanana]

ALL war mongers and endtimers.

It is as bad as I have ever seen it. Off it goes . . . (and I'm an oppo junkie)

[CJCRANE]

1. Most DUers are still not asking the obvious questions.

DU is very much behind the curve these days, not like the DU of the Bush era.

[elias49]

2. I feel your pain, though Walter Isaacson is holding

Scarborough's feet to the fire.
Oh dear...Andrea Mitchell....bye bye.

[dembotoz]

3. sometimes i do not miss all the channels i used to get

my wallet is much happier too

[bklyncowgirl]

4. Scarborough said they invited Democrats but none wanted to come on, a mistake in my opinion.

If that is true, and of course he could be lying, the Democrats are making a mistake by going into a defensive crouch over this. Some of their guests are making more sense and countering the bluster but a few Democrats with military and intelligence credentials, Wes Clark, for example, would add some heft.

CNN has the Neocon Bobbsey twins, McCain and Graham on. Not much better.

[riversedge]

6. Well, they probably would not want Wes Clarke on--he is too intelligent for their lot!

[CTyankee]

10. Scar started blaming Obama within 4 minutes of the start of the broadcast here at 6 am.

I was clocking it to see how soon he would start sticking the knife in.

He musta gotten some pushback from viewers because he started moderating his tone later.

Mika did her smiling smirk usual face when Joe gets going. I was clocking how fast The Face would go up...as soon as Joe started.

[napkinz]

16. don't let the Republicans rewrite history ...

more at http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027346281

[CTyankee]

18. don't worry. I will never forget...

[napkinz]

19. the problem is the MSM are selling the Republican revision of history that blames President Obama

for ISIS

[CTyankee]

22. and some always will no matter how much correcting information we get out there.

Leave them by the wayside and explain to the serious voter, the large group in the middle or lower middle classes.

[One of the 99]

28. I loved it when he said...

'I don't want to take cheap political shots' and then took a bunch of cheap political shots.

[riversedge]

5. McCain and Lindsey coming up

[madaboutharry]

7. Lindsey Graham

Never met a war he didn't want to start.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. You mean Douche and Douche?

[bklyncowgirl]

8. Martin O'Malley on CNN now.

Glad to see him on.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. UGH ! The guy has what, 5% support. Time for him to go - and instead he's on

TV trashing our probable candidate. Go away Martin

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. In one breath Joe says we have to call this what it is-- "ISLAMIC terrorism." In the next breath...

... he scolds people for calling fear of foreigners and their foreign foreigner ways "xenophobia."

[CTyankee]

11. and WTF is wrong with "radical jihadist"? We all know what that means...

[bklyncowgirl]

14. I kind of like radical Islamist cult myself. Jihad has multiple meanings in Islam--not all bad.

Apparently by living a good Islamic life you are a performing jihad. You also perform Jihad by fighting in defense of the faith. Saying they're a radical cult isolates them.

[CTyankee]

15. Someone killed all those people in Paris. If we don't have a name that describes who they are

how are we going to understand the context of why they are doing it? How about "murderous jihad"?

[KingCharlemagne]

23. how about 'irregular military'? - nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. How about just murderers? Anyone even in the US could buy automatic

weapons, walk into a crowded venue, and kill a hundred people.

Not a war - a police issue inho

[CTyankee]

25. except that there is historical and political context to understand too...

the police don't make foreign policy that winds up in out and out murder.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Not sure I understand what you are saying. I oversimplified - but I am

listening to Obama right now and he is describing what I am thinking very well. It's not a traditional war, not a "traditionally armed" military. We are fighting disillusioned people who are willing to die to kill innocents. They can freely communicate via social media. They are not sitting in a military camp somewhere wearing uniforms that say ISIS.

Sure that probably didn't respond correctly to your point, sorry.

All I do know is that I am SO glad we have Obama in the presidency and know full well if the GOP takes the office - it will make things so much worse.

[CTyankee]

29. Yes, Obama gets it. Do any of the republicans?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. No. Guess Paul and Trump come closest...I think:) Makes it SO

important not to let them win the WH and to get the House and/or Senate back.

[CTyankee]

31. I think we have a shot at the Senate but the House is barbarian...stone age people...

and I also think we have a great shot at the White House with either Hillary or Bernie.

[bklyncowgirl]

27. Jihadist death cult?

[Mike Nelson]

12. They went negative on Obama & Clinton big...

...and kissed up to Trump and Jeb!, Mika the pseudo-liberal included. "Fox & Friends" is fairer...

[think]

13. The same crowd that thought invading Iraq was a good idea....

[napkinz]

17. These 5 Facts Show How Decisions By President George W. Bush Led To ISIS

1. The decision to invade Iraq, which had been contained by the no-fly zone created by the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations and unable to threaten its neighbors or the West, created a power vacuum in the Middle East which had been filled by Saddam Hussein until the invasion in March of 2003.

2. The Bush administration believed it could install Ahmed Chalabi – part of the public relations campaign to sell the Iraq War to America – as leader of the new government, but he had been outside of the country so long they never accepted him. He was viewed as a “western stooge.”

3. Almost all of the leaders of ISIS have connections to the former Iraqi government, mostly coming from the military of the Saddam Hussein regime:

-snip-

4. Paul Bremer, who was the appointed head of Iraq by the Bush administration, passed the de-Baathification law which sent Iraqi army members into the populace, eventually becoming insurgents and terrorists:

read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/14/these-5-facts-show-how-decisions-by-president-george-w-bush-led-to-isis/