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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy cab ride home, was the saddest moment I've experienced as apart of the human race.
https://twitter.com/alexmalloyy/status/665391353556242432/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319566/Muslim-taxi-driver-not-pick-fare-hours-following-Paris-attacks-broke-tears-passenger-showed-support.html
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #1)
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AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)fear based hysteria can be stopped cold...
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christx30
(6,241 posts)that refuses to get in the cab with a driver they don't feel safe with, no matter the reason?
"No thanks, I'll take the next one."
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)be prosecuted for knowingly printing and repeating lies and or inciting the fears of the viewing public when such has deadly consequences.....
former9thward
(32,017 posts)Or you don't agree with it.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)eom
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)Just no...
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)and destroy their reputations. Libel and Slander are against the law. Political speech is the one allowed under the constitution and that was so we would be free politically. Study up.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)but it does not apply absolutely and without exception.
Study up.
christx30
(6,241 posts)The beauty about the first amendment is that it protects anything someone says, no matter how bonkers, wrong, or weird. If someone in the media is shoveling as part of his job, it's everyone's responsibility to call them on it.
If I want to say "Unicorns are real." I can. It's not political, but it's my firm belief.
So we have to jump on Fox news' twitter and expose their lies. But I'd hate for a mandate all news to have to go through a government paid fact checker. Too much room for corruption and someone's personal agenda.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Your first amendment rights, seems such does not go well for anyone daring to voice objections to religion needing not to be taken seriously as its nothing more than a scam? Not sure I've heard any recent higher office running candidates bash that nonsense.....
The same people screaming it's our right are the first ones to attempt to snatch yours away
MMTampa
(82 posts)Didn't the scotus just suspend first amendment rights in the general area surrounding the court. The republican convention was here in Tampa, you had to stand in a cage if you wanted to exercise your first amendment rights.
That said, a close friend of mine expressed her shame in being an evangelical christian because her religion has been hijacked by extremists here in the States. I think we are very close to violent terrorism from christian extremists here. As they continue to feel marginalized by legislation and their efforts to control voters rights, the courts, and the government continues to fall apart I'm sure we will see violent christian extremists following the lead of ISIS and other "religious" terrorists.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Not. I think this is this hipsters little attempt at getting some attention. I'm not buying it.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)driven by a Muslim? Some things just can't be legislated and this is one of them.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)is paying attention, such actions only breed more fear and hate, what could possibly Go wrong when such spreads so easily....
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)It's the racism...it's the discrimination against a group because of their religion. Whether it's in the cab or the diner or the workplace. Muslims are not the problem, fanatic extremists are the problem. They use religion as a crutch to justify their own hatred.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)I wish that were possible but it's not.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)makes the post very relevent
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Trying to avoid taxi drivers from an Islamic country in NYC will make for a long wait.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)Munificence
(493 posts)But we all sure do love our Christians and Southerners here on DU.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)So I would say that in fact DU does love it some Christians..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027318261
whathehell
(29,067 posts)so I would say DU sure does love it some Atheists at least as much if not more than any Christians..
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Did you look at the OP I linked to, "godless" certainly wasn't used in a complementary manner there.
Imagine the "n" word or the "b" word or the "g" word put in that place and it would have been hidden in moments.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)in which it's used as a negative doesn't exactly imply a trend.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Muslims are more terrorized by ISIS than any other religion, by far.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)of control..
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)are guilty and radical refugees will infiltrate our country. They just have to hate and spread that crud.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Democrats, gays, republicans, socialists, capitalists, Christians, Muslims, men, women, environmentalists, communists, globalists, bankers, nativists, big business, big government, the 1%, any religion, the 99%, atheists, the poor, the rich, white, black, etc, etc, etc. Everyone hates someone, and all the people in whatever group is ruining everything. We're all guilty by association at some point.
7962
(11,841 posts)And pretty much included everyone too!!
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)republicans, with very few exceptions, and radical fundamentalists of any stripe, especially those who call themselves "Christians." I also hate child and animal abusers. Oh, and deliberately mean people. And defilers of Nature. So I am, indeed, guilty of hate but I don't generally hate blindly.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Wish I knew what to do to help beyond just feeling terrible.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)The fear and hate spread like a virus when people are silent. Do what you can to treat people like people and that spreads instead.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Just seems like this is a time when more is needed. I'm not actually running across that many obvious Muslims in the course of my day. Also, not much I can say to my friends since they really feel as I do already. Well, something will present itself ...
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Just take a stand where you feel it's needed and it will help- even doing it here helps.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)And grandchildren, yes I remained silent, no, I did not want to, I shook outwardly, glared at the preacher, so much needed to be said that he glossed over, talked about Paris, Fox style, disheartening, I assume evaluating his target cash cows in the Texas arena of conservatism, for my daughter I remained silent, she is close to breaking, she needed me at that moment to just sit with her, but now I know that what I left years ago sickenly continues....
But the fact is, for that reason, my daughters sanity, I remained silent, but later, I discussed my feelings with grandchildren more openly, encouraged them to Think, listen, learn, study, reach out and care....
And told them nicely though simmering with anger that he just needed better council and a more open mind as well as a more understanding nature,
They are smart kids, our future, perhaps they will aid in changing hate filled minds they will surely come across as humans have not changed since the beginning of time....
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)None of us are a group of anything. We are individuals trying to live in this world and provide for ourselves and our loved ones.
I fear though that it will not be enough- we will be groups, we will kill each other, and we will believe we are right for it. That was my nightmare when the Syrians fled en masse...and this will not help.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)for Japanese Americans in the Second World War. I went to my parents about it - Dad fought in the war and Mom was a Rosie the Riveter. They said that it was bad, and shouldn't have happened. I asked Dad if it could happen again and he didn't say anything...
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)perhaps this is yet another anonymous internet hoax. I have no doubt Snopes is working on it as we speak.
And as much as I agree with the sentiments here, if it is a BS story, it doesn't help us all that much much.
If it's not BS, perhaps some more details would help.
kpete
(71,996 posts)former9thward
(32,017 posts)Easy to make allegations on the internet.
classykaren
(769 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)especially in NYC. Cabbies are from all over the world and most New Yorkers are desperate to catch a cab - any cab. I just don't really see this happening in NYC. If this didn't happen after 9/11 there isn't much of a chance that it happened after the Paris attacks.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)nothing's ever been planted before, but this does give it credibility.
Btw, I did a search on Alex Malloy and you have no idea how many there are.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Dr. Yousaf Butt is a senior advisor to the British American Security Information Council and director at the Cultural Intelligence Institute. The views expressed here are his own.
LONDON -- The horrific terrorist attacks on the Charlie Hebdo weekly in Paris have led to speculation as to whether the killers -- the brothers Chérif and Saïd Kouachi -- were lone wolves or tied to masterminds in ISIS or its rival, Al-Qaeda. Although Al-Qaeda in Yemen has taken credit for the attack, it is unclear how closely the affiliate actually directed the operation. No matter which organizational connections (if any) ultimately prove to be real, one thing is clear: the fountainhead of Islamic extremism that promotes and legitimizes such violence lies with the fanatical "Wahhabi" strain of Islam centered in Saudi Arabia. And if the world wants to tamp down and eliminate such violent extremism, it must confront this primary host and facilitator.
Perversely, while the Saudi Ambassador to Lebanon Ali Awad Asiri took part in a "Je suis Charlie" solidarity rally in Beirut following the Paris attacks, back home the Saudi blogger Raif Badawi received the first 50 of 1,000 lashes he is due each Friday over the next 20 weeks. His crime? Running a liberal website promoting the freedom of speech. (Thankfully, in recent days it seems the Saudi authorities have buckled to international pressure and suspended the sentence.)
It would be troublesome but perhaps acceptable for the House of Saud to promote the intolerant and extremist Wahhabi creed just domestically. But, unfortunately, for decades the Saudis have also lavishly financed its propagation abroad. Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number. By comparison, the Soviets spent about $7 billion spreading communism worldwide in the 70 years from 1921 and 1991.
This appears to be a monumental campaign to bulldoze the more moderate strains of Islam, and replace them with the theo-fascist Saudi variety. Despite being well aware of the issue, Western powers continue to coddle the Saudis or, at most, protest meekly from time to time
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)We've gone a lot further than not challenging the Saudis. We've given them F-15's and advanced air-to-air and surface-to air missiles, along with AWACS planes.
All, of course, because their country sits atop a shit-ton of oil.
4lbs
(6,858 posts)In August 2015, the US imported a little over 300 million barrels of oil for the month.
Of that, 39 million were from the Persian Gulf (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar).
The reason for this is that Middle Eastern oil is Heavy Brent Crude, and US oil refineries are geared for Light Sweet Crude which is mainly in the Asia and Pacific areas.
SereneG
(31 posts)Given or SOLD? They pay the US for weapons received.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)We have sold the Saudis all that stuff. Does that make it better for you?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Being a Muslim doesn't make this guy any more "responsible" for the acts of those yahoos than it does you.
lib87
(535 posts)Then you won't feel the need to ask a man you've never met to demonstrate to you what a good Muslim he is.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)It's everyone's responsibility...not just Muslims. We can help the cause of peace, or, by our actions, we can cause more youth to flee to ISIS.
Waleed Aly, on his program "Something We Should Talk About"
Aly said ISIL wanted to create World War III, and for societies around the world to turn on each other, and for countries like Australia to vilify Muslims.
He said this evil organisation believes if they can make Muslims the enemy of the West, then Muslims in France and England and America and here in Australia will have nowhere to turn but to ISIL.
That was exactly their strategy in Iraq, he said. And now they want it to go global.We all need to come together. I know how that sounds. I know it is a cliche, but it is also true because it is exactly what ISIL doesnt want.
So, if you are a member of Parliament or a has-been member of Parliament preaching hate at a time when what we actually need is more love you are helping ISIL. They have told us that. If you are a Muslim leader telling your community they have no place here or basically them saying the same thing you are helping ISIL.
They have told us that. If you are just someone with a Facebook or Twitter account firing off misguided messages of hate, you are helping ISIL They have told us that.
Watch this great (short) video of Aly speaking on this here:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/waleed-aly-hits-out-at-isis-over-paris-attacks-calls-them-weak/story-fn948wjf-1227611388541
Omaha Steve
(99,655 posts)K&R!
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SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I dread the spew of hate and the sickening "patriotism" that will be coming.
Derek in Iowa
(15 posts)but "a part" is two words.
Nobel_Twaddle_III
(323 posts)Festivito
(13,452 posts)Chock that up to auto-spell.
My Sunday morning Arabic friends needed some extra reassurance. Just a little. They got it from me and others.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Blame it on fear. Blame it on prejudice. Bottom line, I blame it on stupidity.
If a terrorist want to take people out, he wouldn't be driving a cab a trying to kill one person at a time for heavens sake.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And paired with ignorance it's almost unstoppable. Our leaders have encouraged this for their own ends.
I come from slightly before that era. Ronald Reagan almost got the world nuked, but they asked us to be brave and to keep our values and dreams. They probably wish I'd forget they said that, but the damage is done.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)I truly feel sorry for this guy. His pain is unjustified. I would jump in a cab with him! What do bigots think he's going to do...drive them to their destination, take their fair, and then get out and empty his AK-47???
...but THIS is the saddest moment of you've experienced as apart of the human race?!
Growing up in SE Washington DC during the 80s, we called the witnessing of an unfairly grief-stricken individual "TUESDAY".
Must be nice.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)weeping over this one guy, as sad and unfortunate as prejudice is. Not that it was this person's fault, but I'm much sadder for the families and friends of all the murdered people.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)brewens
(13,590 posts)could ever hope for. I work blood drives at a couple of major universities in the northwest. Blood donors as a rule are almost without exception nice of course. I never know for sure their nationalities in many cases and never ask if they are Muslim. I just assume many are. I hope those kids I am familiar with, don't have any trouble over this.
One thing that I've been wondering about, and maybe I'm not paying enough attention. We have a great many high profile athletes in this country with Islamic sounding names. Do they have much to say about Islamaphobia? Of course many might be kids who's parents were Muslim that are not particularly religious in any way. Their parents were, and changed their names and named the kid accordingly.
A kid named Ameer Abdullah plays his entire college career at Nebraska and is now with Detroit in the NFL. It makes me wonder f he had any kind of harrassment playing at Nebraska or what he's have to say about that kind of thing?
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)is the most prominent Muslim in the United States that I can think of in terms of celebrity...and a damn good writer to boot...he may have something to say on this subject...and he does not suffer fools too much. EDIT: on second thought...don't ask Kareem, lol...again...
Another horrendous act of terrorism has taken place and people like myself who are on media speed-dial under Celebrity Muslims are thrust in the spotlight to angrily condemn, disavow, and explainagainhow these barbaric acts are in no way related to Islam, Abdul-Jabbar, who converted to Islam in the late 1960s, wrote last month.
http://time.com/3662152/kareem-abdul-jabbar-paris-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-are-not-about-religion/
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)It certainly won't be the case in Midtown NYC in the rain!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)There is about three Muslim families living on my street, and all of them are very nice neighbors. Once in celebration of one of their holidays, one of the families knocked on several doors and offered people food they had made. It was so kind. Always the epitome of politeness.
I feel so sorry for this young man, but thank you for your kindness and sympathy to him.
Sam
Elmergantry
(884 posts)They are from India. She is Catholic...have no idea how that works ...he is a mellow and soft spoken a person as I have seen.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)When we just bomb "them"
Elmergantry
(884 posts)A Muslim cab driver was questioned by New York City police after he allegedly attacked a Jewish passenger.
The complainant, businessman Moshe Indig, told Arutz Sheva Sunday: "I took a cab from Manhattan to Brooklyn yesterday at 8 PM. I asked the driver to make a phone call. He refused but then relented and put the call on the speaker. When he saw that I was speaking Hebrew, he said: 'I hate the people and the language you are speaking. If I had known that you were a Jew, I would not have given you the call."
"When he dropped me off in Brooklyn I started walking and suddenly he got out of the vehicle and ran toward me and started punching me in the head. I was immediately concerned that he might have a knife or some other weapon, so I hit him forcefully. He grabbed my kippah and my cellphone and ran away."
Indig tried to grab back his belongings but the driver drove off and Indig fell from the car and was hurt. He later filed a police complaint. The cabbie was summoned to questioning and will probably be charged with a hate crime within the next few days.
"I was lucky," Indig summed up. "If he had had a knife, there is no doubt that he would have killed me. His eyes were full of hatred. He turned from a cab driver to a terrorist."
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Not even in the rabidly right-wing Post, which would presumably be lapping this up like a cat would milk.
svpadgham
(670 posts)That's a shame. People being afraid of riding in his cab because of his religion is just wrong. I mean, there are so many other reasons to be afraid of riding in a NYC cab. HIYOOO!
Sorry, hacky late night comedy show host took over.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)FreddyKruger
(1 post)Thanks for being one of the only voices of reason. This story is BS. Not only would NYers not turn down a taxi on a Friday night, but how would you know a Muslim from an Israeli by sight? And then he sat behind the guy for the entire trip and didn't see his name tag, which is posted on the back of the driver's seat? lol So easy to go viral these days.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm not buying it either. I lived there for 12 years. There is no way we would turn down a taxi at 11pm on a Friday night no matter who was driving it. I think the guy who wrote this was trying to draw attention to himself, not the cab driver.
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)Either the driver or passenger is full of it.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)city, but not New York. I lived there during 9/11 and it never occurred to us to refuse cabbies who "looked" muslim or seemed to have muslim last names. New Yorkers are much too pragmatic for such a thing. A taxi is a taxi - we didn't care who was driving it.
patsimp
(915 posts)by Islamist Terrorists in the name of their religion at:
- the Boston Marathon
- Mumbai
- 911
- France (twice this year)
- Spain
If the Islamic terrorists stop killing people, I'm sure people will stop the blame.
btw - I don't see a lot of coordinated condemnation on twitter of the barbaric acts by leaders of the Muslim community. Maybe I'm missing something.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)...is the damage religion does to people.
"My god..." doesn't believe or do anything because he doesn't exist. These ancient superstitions were helpful in ancient time, but now, adhering to them is just harmful.
niyad
(113,325 posts)fear and loathing of "the other". keep our attention focused over here, so we have no time or energy to see what they are doing over there.
Duval
(4,280 posts)good dialogue, understanding and empathy for the average Muslim. I would have been in tears, also. Thanks for being a good example.
kpete
(71,996 posts)A Muslim taxi driver was not able to pick up a fare for hours after the terrorist attacks in Paris, claims a passenger who had him 'in tears' after his message of support.
Alex Malloy, 23, caught a cab in Manhattan, New York, around 11pm on Friday evening - just hours after the horrific coordinated attacks in Paris that left 129 people dead and hundreds injured.
He claims the driver told him he was his first passenger is two hours after the bombings left many suspicious of his Muslim faith in what he described as the 'saddest moment he has experienced.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319566/Muslim-taxi-driver-not-pick-fare-hours-following-Paris-attacks-broke-tears-passenger-showed-support.html#ixzz3rgT1aTv2
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smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And make up stories about muslim cab drivers to make himself sound like "a really great guy".
nikto
(3,284 posts)Again and again, I hear people like Ted Cruz and others routinely equate
Islam with terrorism via intentional languaging.
Simply a fundamental conservative-Christian sense of rivalry and hostility towards a competing religion.
Hateful pettiness, that with further propaganda, can mutate into an appetite for destruction,
which no doubt pleases our rapacious war-seeking elites.
lark
(23,105 posts)I really appreciate your showing the human face of this issue, so many lose perspective when terrible things happen. I got so sick of seeing posts like:
Don't pray for Paris, Get Even! As if anyone who's Muslim can be blamed for that atrocity. Islam is a peaceful religion and demonizing the major religion on earth isn't smart for us. It's a radical sect who are hated by their own people (speaking of Muslim's) as not representing their faith and as abominations. We don't need to retaliate against the refugees, they are victims of ISIS in ways we can't even imagine. We need to actually spend time and get ISIS, those responsible for this, not just fire, aim.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Because over there in Conservative-land, it is frightening to see that "round up all the Muslims and deport them" is the MODERATE option, due to the extremist tea partiers screaming for a "round up all the Muslims and shoot them" option.
Every Democrat is better than any of the Republican candidates. Blind hatred of practitioners of Islam has no place at all over here.
NonMetro
(631 posts)Really!!! Somebody send this guy a box of tissues!
ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)NonMetro
(631 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)JI7
(89,251 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)ladyVet
(1,587 posts)I can say that I worry about my middle son, who looks like his father, with olive complexion, dark hair and eyes and a big nose. I worry that some rube in this sanity-forsaken repuke hell hole will assume he is Muslim/Middle Eastern and do something to him.
This has been a worry since 9-11, especially when he lets his hair get long and he grows a beard. We are not of any Middle Eastern descent, but have quite a bit of Native American ancestry, and my ex husband may possibly have some Jewish heritage (though he hates the thought, fundy that he is).
I'm sick of the hatred. I'm sick of the wars, sick of the killing. Sick of religions of all kinds, and the people who use them to hurt and control others.
3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)...truck came thru our neighborhood, as it always did. The driver looked to be of middle eastern heritage. He was giving away his merchandise, as if to try to reassure people that he was a good person who meant no harm to anyone. My heart ached for him.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)ridiculous story! Sorry people, this shit just does not happen in NYC. It just doesn't. This little hipster f-tard is just looking for some attention, that's all. It's not a real story.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)If I turned down a cab driven by someone of the Muslim faith, I would be waiting for hours for a cab.