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My cab ride home, was the saddest moment I've experienced as apart of the human race. (Original Post) kpete Nov 2015 OP
So sad, so many refuse to understand... AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #18
Even sadder, and yes your right, laws are needed to ensure this bigoted targeting racist AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #26
So what do you do with someone christx30 Nov 2015 #29
Perhaps regulate the honesty, and integrity of our national media by allowing them to AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #30
I guess you haven't heard of the First amendmnt former9thward Nov 2015 #46
the first amendment really only covers political speech demigoddess Nov 2015 #70
Um, no skepticscott Nov 2015 #72
Then why aren't you allowed to tell lies about people in public demigoddess Nov 2015 #110
The First Amendment does apply to others kinds of speech skepticscott Nov 2015 #111
It's not just political speech. christx30 Nov 2015 #108
Seems I've heard of such whispered about, depends on where you wish to freely express AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #85
The real estate surrounding the scotus... MMTampa Nov 2015 #97
Yeah, like that really happens in NYC. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #105
So are we going to make it illegal to refuse to get in a cab totodeinhere Nov 2015 #64
I don't have all the answers nor obviously do you but somewhere someone who does AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #84
Your missing the point.Forget the cab.It's the fear mongering bjobotts Nov 2015 #90
The point I was making is that you can't solve everything by passing a law. totodeinhere Nov 2015 #91
r/thathappened AngryAmish Nov 2015 #2
It could very well be made up but to pretend such has not happened and will again surely AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #31
Yep. Looks like something directly out of r/tumblrinaction. Ikonoklast Nov 2015 #73
In NYC? Doubtful. Uber is a bigger issue for NYC drivers. bettyellen Nov 2015 #86
How dreadful for him... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2015 #3
Yeah Munificence Nov 2015 #33
Well, "godless" is considered an acceptable slur on the DU Fumesucker Nov 2015 #45
Actually, "godless" seems more a term of pride on DU whathehell Nov 2015 #54
It's kind of like the "n" word, it can be used in more than one way Fumesucker Nov 2015 #56
Yes, but one instance whathehell Nov 2015 #58
The Beirut bombings of civilians the day before Paris...36 Muslims killed by ISIS: Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #4
Excellent point, Fred. I hope we (all of us in the world) can find our way through this tragedy. Demoiselle Nov 2015 #20
In our face, selective faux outrages out in force and have been allowed to fester out AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #24
It sucks. Been "debating" some of the facebook bigots I grew up with who are claiming all Muslims Hoyt Nov 2015 #5
I'm pretty sure that happens all over the place The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #9
You've hit the nail on the head. 7962 Nov 2015 #14
I readily admit to hating Ineeda Nov 2015 #62
It does happen all over the place -- People extrapolate & generalize. It's nothing new. n/t whathehell Nov 2015 #71
Heartbreaking n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #6
... n2doc Nov 2015 #7
We all need to HUG THIS MAN. NOW. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #8
I wish he could know. Hortensis Nov 2015 #82
Must be terrifying. zentrum Nov 2015 #10
Be inclusive Hydra Nov 2015 #12
Of course. I do. zentrum Nov 2015 #19
*nods* It's a good sign if you have few opportunities to right things in your area Hydra Nov 2015 #21
^^True^^ zentrum Nov 2015 #23
I had that chance today, attended a non denominational church with my daughter AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #28
Your daughter and grandchildren do not need that church. nt ladyVet Nov 2015 #96
Good on this guy for reprisenting our better angels Hydra Nov 2015 #11
I can remember when I was a kid and first learned about the internment camps PatrickforO Nov 2015 #13
Forgive me for thinking that... TreasonousBastard Nov 2015 #15
more: kpete Nov 2015 #39
Your link proves nothing. former9thward Nov 2015 #47
Why in the world would you think this didn't happen many times over? classykaren Nov 2015 #55
Because it's pretty hard to tell if someone is muslim just from hopping into a cab with them, smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #87
OK, that's a good start-- real people identified in a real news story. Not that TreasonousBastard Nov 2015 #49
He should stop crying and become activist against Wahhabism. ErikJ Nov 2015 #16
It's worse than that, actually- Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #34
Which is idiotic because 85% of the oil imported by the US is from non-Middle Eastern countries. 4lbs Nov 2015 #38
Sold SereneG Nov 2015 #59
OK great, sold. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2015 #99
Why don't YOU become an activist against Wahhabism? winter is coming Nov 2015 #40
*Or* You Stop Being Islamophobic lib87 Nov 2015 #44
So, it's 'HIS' responsibility to fight Wahhabism, but not ours? passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #94
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #17
Thank you for posting kpete. SoapBox Nov 2015 #25
I hate to be picky Derek in Iowa Nov 2015 #27
then don't be Nobel_Twaddle_III Nov 2015 #36
As one word the sentence means the opposite. Twice. Festivito Nov 2015 #52
People refuding to ride with this guy are also stupid! CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #32
Fear is a powerful force Hydra Nov 2015 #35
“With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.” Friedrich Schiller nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #92
You must have a wonderful life... AllTooEasy Nov 2015 #37
Exactly...a BIT too much skepticscott Nov 2015 #74
This nation is full of people that are proud of failing to see the world in a nuanced way. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #41
The people from the middle east that I meet are as polite, respectful and friendly as you brewens Nov 2015 #42
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #53
This too shall pass flamingdem Nov 2015 #43
Omg. That is sad Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #48
Tragic Samantha Nov 2015 #50
My wife friend has a muslim husband. Elmergantry Nov 2015 #61
Same mistake we make Helen Borg Nov 2015 #51
I thought this was sad too.. Elmergantry Nov 2015 #57
Hmmm.. I can't find anything about this in the NY papers KamaAina Nov 2015 #75
Terrible svpadgham Nov 2015 #60
Hmm, NY'ers would get in a cab w/Satan if it'd get them across town in rush hour. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #63
People are so gullible! FreddyKruger Nov 2015 #66
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #106
Yeah, I'm not buying this story. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #80
Exactly! I could maybe see this happening is some small southern or midwestern smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #101
Some of my saddest moments are thinking about those killed patsimp Nov 2015 #65
What makes me cry... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #67
how very sad indeed. "they", whoever "they", win by fear-mongering, divisiveness, hatred, niyad Nov 2015 #68
But, kpete, you did offer Duval Nov 2015 #69
not ME, i live on the left coast kpete Nov 2015 #81
Alex Molloy likes to take selfies and draw attention to himself on social media. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #107
I blame the obscene languaging of the GOP and Conservative-leaning Pols nikto Nov 2015 #76
Thank you for this post. lark Nov 2015 #77
Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #78
Thanks for posting this...nt jonno99 Nov 2015 #79
This is why, regardless of who the Democratic candidate winds up to be, we must support him or her Tarc Nov 2015 #83
So the terrorist murders of 129 people in Paris cost him some cab fares!?!? NonMetro Nov 2015 #88
That's all you got from the OP? wow ohnoyoudidnt Nov 2015 #100
I think it's a hoax. NonMetro Nov 2015 #103
Yes, I think a little perspective is called for here. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #102
In the universe scheme of life we are all one race, the human race. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #89
don't most cab drivers"look muslim" in nyc ? JI7 Nov 2015 #93
knr Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #95
I can't speak to the truth or falseness of the quoted material. ladyVet Nov 2015 #98
The day after the September 11th attacks, the ice cream... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #104
Oh, for god's sake! I can't actually believe that anybody is falling for this smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #109
The only time I usually take a cab is from the airport to my downtown Minneapolis office. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #112

Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #1)

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
22. Even sadder, and yes your right, laws are needed to ensure this bigoted targeting racist
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:29 PM
Nov 2015

fear based hysteria can be stopped cold...

Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #22)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
29. So what do you do with someone
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:51 PM
Nov 2015

that refuses to get in the cab with a driver they don't feel safe with, no matter the reason?
"No thanks, I'll take the next one."

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
30. Perhaps regulate the honesty, and integrity of our national media by allowing them to
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:57 PM
Nov 2015

be prosecuted for knowingly printing and repeating lies and or inciting the fears of the viewing public when such has deadly consequences.....

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
110. Then why aren't you allowed to tell lies about people in public
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:00 PM
Nov 2015

and destroy their reputations. Libel and Slander are against the law. Political speech is the one allowed under the constitution and that was so we would be free politically. Study up.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
111. The First Amendment does apply to others kinds of speech
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:04 PM
Nov 2015

but it does not apply absolutely and without exception.

Study up.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
108. It's not just political speech.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:11 PM
Nov 2015

The beauty about the first amendment is that it protects anything someone says, no matter how bonkers, wrong, or weird. If someone in the media is shoveling as part of his job, it's everyone's responsibility to call them on it.
If I want to say "Unicorns are real." I can. It's not political, but it's my firm belief.
So we have to jump on Fox news' twitter and expose their lies. But I'd hate for a mandate all news to have to go through a government paid fact checker. Too much room for corruption and someone's personal agenda.

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
85. Seems I've heard of such whispered about, depends on where you wish to freely express
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:44 PM
Nov 2015

Your first amendment rights, seems such does not go well for anyone daring to voice objections to religion needing not to be taken seriously as its nothing more than a scam? Not sure I've heard any recent higher office running candidates bash that nonsense.....

The same people screaming it's our right are the first ones to attempt to snatch yours away

MMTampa

(82 posts)
97. The real estate surrounding the scotus...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:28 PM
Nov 2015

Didn't the scotus just suspend first amendment rights in the general area surrounding the court. The republican convention was here in Tampa, you had to stand in a cage if you wanted to exercise your first amendment rights.
That said, a close friend of mine expressed her shame in being an evangelical christian because her religion has been hijacked by extremists here in the States. I think we are very close to violent terrorism from christian extremists here. As they continue to feel marginalized by legislation and their efforts to control voters rights, the courts, and the government continues to fall apart I'm sure we will see violent christian extremists following the lead of ISIS and other "religious" terrorists.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
105. Yeah, like that really happens in NYC.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:57 PM
Nov 2015

Not. I think this is this hipsters little attempt at getting some attention. I'm not buying it.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
64. So are we going to make it illegal to refuse to get in a cab
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:45 AM
Nov 2015

driven by a Muslim? Some things just can't be legislated and this is one of them.

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
84. I don't have all the answers nor obviously do you but somewhere someone who does
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:37 PM
Nov 2015

is paying attention, such actions only breed more fear and hate, what could possibly Go wrong when such spreads so easily....

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
90. Your missing the point.Forget the cab.It's the fear mongering
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

It's the racism...it's the discrimination against a group because of their religion. Whether it's in the cab or the diner or the workplace. Muslims are not the problem, fanatic extremists are the problem. They use religion as a crutch to justify their own hatred.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
91. The point I was making is that you can't solve everything by passing a law.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:19 PM
Nov 2015

I wish that were possible but it's not.

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
31. It could very well be made up but to pretend such has not happened and will again surely
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:59 PM
Nov 2015

makes the post very relevent

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
73. Yep. Looks like something directly out of r/tumblrinaction.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015

Trying to avoid taxi drivers from an Islamic country in NYC will make for a long wait.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
54. Actually, "godless" seems more a term of pride on DU
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:51 AM
Nov 2015

so I would say DU sure does love it some Atheists at least as much if not more than any Christians..

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
56. It's kind of like the "n" word, it can be used in more than one way
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:44 AM
Nov 2015

Did you look at the OP I linked to, "godless" certainly wasn't used in a complementary manner there.

Imagine the "n" word or the "b" word or the "g" word put in that place and it would have been hidden in moments.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. The Beirut bombings of civilians the day before Paris...36 Muslims killed by ISIS:
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141260694#post7

Muslims are more terrorized by ISIS than any other religion, by far.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. It sucks. Been "debating" some of the facebook bigots I grew up with who are claiming all Muslims
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

are guilty and radical refugees will infiltrate our country. They just have to hate and spread that crud.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
9. I'm pretty sure that happens all over the place
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:49 PM
Nov 2015

Democrats, gays, republicans, socialists, capitalists, Christians, Muslims, men, women, environmentalists, communists, globalists, bankers, nativists, big business, big government, the 1%, any religion, the 99%, atheists, the poor, the rich, white, black, etc, etc, etc. Everyone hates someone, and all the people in whatever group is ruining everything. We're all guilty by association at some point.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
62. I readily admit to hating
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:09 AM
Nov 2015

republicans, with very few exceptions, and radical fundamentalists of any stripe, especially those who call themselves "Christians." I also hate child and animal abusers. Oh, and deliberately mean people. And defilers of Nature. So I am, indeed, guilty of hate but I don't generally hate blindly.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
12. Be inclusive
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:58 PM
Nov 2015

The fear and hate spread like a virus when people are silent. Do what you can to treat people like people and that spreads instead.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Of course. I do.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:20 PM
Nov 2015

Just seems like this is a time when more is needed. I'm not actually running across that many obvious Muslims in the course of my day. Also, not much I can say to my friends since they really feel as I do already. Well, something will present itself…...

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
21. *nods* It's a good sign if you have few opportunities to right things in your area
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

Just take a stand where you feel it's needed and it will help- even doing it here helps.

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
28. I had that chance today, attended a non denominational church with my daughter
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:45 PM
Nov 2015

And grandchildren, yes I remained silent, no, I did not want to, I shook outwardly, glared at the preacher, so much needed to be said that he glossed over, talked about Paris, Fox style, disheartening, I assume evaluating his target cash cows in the Texas arena of conservatism, for my daughter I remained silent, she is close to breaking, she needed me at that moment to just sit with her, but now I know that what I left years ago sickenly continues....

But the fact is, for that reason, my daughters sanity, I remained silent, but later, I discussed my feelings with grandchildren more openly, encouraged them to Think, listen, learn, study, reach out and care....

And told them nicely though simmering with anger that he just needed better council and a more open mind as well as a more understanding nature,

They are smart kids, our future, perhaps they will aid in changing hate filled minds they will surely come across as humans have not changed since the beginning of time....

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
11. Good on this guy for reprisenting our better angels
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:56 PM
Nov 2015

None of us are a group of anything. We are individuals trying to live in this world and provide for ourselves and our loved ones.

I fear though that it will not be enough- we will be groups, we will kill each other, and we will believe we are right for it. That was my nightmare when the Syrians fled en masse...and this will not help.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
13. I can remember when I was a kid and first learned about the internment camps
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:03 PM
Nov 2015

for Japanese Americans in the Second World War. I went to my parents about it - Dad fought in the war and Mom was a Rosie the Riveter. They said that it was bad, and shouldn't have happened. I asked Dad if it could happen again and he didn't say anything...

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
15. Forgive me for thinking that...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:11 PM
Nov 2015

perhaps this is yet another anonymous internet hoax. I have no doubt Snopes is working on it as we speak.

And as much as I agree with the sentiments here, if it is a BS story, it doesn't help us all that much much.

If it's not BS, perhaps some more details would help.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
87. Because it's pretty hard to tell if someone is muslim just from hopping into a cab with them,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:55 PM
Nov 2015

especially in NYC. Cabbies are from all over the world and most New Yorkers are desperate to catch a cab - any cab. I just don't really see this happening in NYC. If this didn't happen after 9/11 there isn't much of a chance that it happened after the Paris attacks.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
49. OK, that's a good start-- real people identified in a real news story. Not that
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:13 AM
Nov 2015

nothing's ever been planted before, but this does give it credibility.

Btw, I did a search on Alex Malloy and you have no idea how many there are.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
16. He should stop crying and become activist against Wahhabism.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:12 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-yousaf-butt-/saudi-wahhabism-islam-terrorism_b_6501916.html

Dr. Yousaf Butt is a senior advisor to the British American Security Information Council and director at the Cultural Intelligence Institute. The views expressed here are his own.

LONDON -- The horrific terrorist attacks on the Charlie Hebdo weekly in Paris have led to speculation as to whether the killers -- the brothers Chérif and Saïd Kouachi -- were lone wolves or tied to masterminds in ISIS or its rival, Al-Qaeda. Although Al-Qaeda in Yemen has taken credit for the attack, it is unclear how closely the affiliate actually directed the operation. No matter which organizational connections (if any) ultimately prove to be real, one thing is clear: the fountainhead of Islamic extremism that promotes and legitimizes such violence lies with the fanatical "Wahhabi" strain of Islam centered in Saudi Arabia. And if the world wants to tamp down and eliminate such violent extremism, it must confront this primary host and facilitator.

Perversely, while the Saudi Ambassador to Lebanon Ali Awad Asiri took part in a "Je suis Charlie" solidarity rally in Beirut following the Paris attacks, back home the Saudi blogger Raif Badawi received the first 50 of 1,000 lashes he is due each Friday over the next 20 weeks. His crime? Running a liberal website promoting the freedom of speech. (Thankfully, in recent days it seems the Saudi authorities have buckled to international pressure and suspended the sentence.)

It would be troublesome but perhaps acceptable for the House of Saud to promote the intolerant and extremist Wahhabi creed just domestically. But, unfortunately, for decades the Saudis have also lavishly financed its propagation abroad. Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number. By comparison, the Soviets spent about $7 billion spreading communism worldwide in the 70 years from 1921 and 1991.

This appears to be a monumental campaign to bulldoze the more moderate strains of Islam, and replace them with the theo-fascist Saudi variety. Despite being well aware of the issue, Western powers continue to coddle the Saudis or, at most, protest meekly from time to time
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
34. It's worse than that, actually-
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

We've gone a lot further than not challenging the Saudis. We've given them F-15's and advanced air-to-air and surface-to air missiles, along with AWACS planes.

All, of course, because their country sits atop a shit-ton of oil.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
38. Which is idiotic because 85% of the oil imported by the US is from non-Middle Eastern countries.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:31 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

In August 2015, the US imported a little over 300 million barrels of oil for the month.

Of that, 39 million were from the Persian Gulf (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar).


The reason for this is that Middle Eastern oil is Heavy Brent Crude, and US oil refineries are geared for Light Sweet Crude which is mainly in the Asia and Pacific areas.




winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
40. Why don't YOU become an activist against Wahhabism?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:48 PM
Nov 2015

Being a Muslim doesn't make this guy any more "responsible" for the acts of those yahoos than it does you.

lib87

(535 posts)
44. *Or* You Stop Being Islamophobic
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:03 AM
Nov 2015

Then you won't feel the need to ask a man you've never met to demonstrate to you what a good Muslim he is.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
94. So, it's 'HIS' responsibility to fight Wahhabism, but not ours?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:54 PM
Nov 2015

It's everyone's responsibility...not just Muslims. We can help the cause of peace, or, by our actions, we can cause more youth to flee to ISIS.


Waleed Aly, on his program "Something We Should Talk About"

Aly said ISIL wanted to create World War III, and for societies around the world to turn on each other, and for countries like Australia to vilify Muslims.

He said this “evil organisation” believes if they can make Muslims the enemy of the West, then Muslims in France and England and America and here in Australia will have nowhere to turn but to ISIL.

“That was exactly their strategy in Iraq,” he said. “And now they want it to go global.


“We all need to come together. I know how that sounds. I know it is a cliche, but it is also true because it is exactly what ISIL doesn’t want.

“So, if you are a member of Parliament or a has-been member of Parliament preaching hate at a time when what we actually need is more love — you are helping ISIL. They have told us that. If you are a Muslim leader telling your community they have no place here or basically them saying the same thing — you are helping ISIL.

“They have told us that. If you are just someone with a Facebook or Twitter account firing off misguided messages of hate, you are helping ISIL — They have told us that.



Watch this great (short) video of Aly speaking on this here:

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/waleed-aly-hits-out-at-isis-over-paris-attacks-calls-them-weak/story-fn948wjf-1227611388541

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
25. Thank you for posting kpete.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:36 PM
Nov 2015

I dread the spew of hate and the sickening "patriotism" that will be coming.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
52. As one word the sentence means the opposite. Twice.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:25 AM
Nov 2015

Chock that up to auto-spell.

My Sunday morning Arabic friends needed some extra reassurance. Just a little. They got it from me and others.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
32. People refuding to ride with this guy are also stupid!
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:00 PM
Nov 2015

Blame it on fear. Blame it on prejudice. Bottom line, I blame it on stupidity.

If a terrorist want to take people out, he wouldn't be driving a cab a trying to kill one person at a time for heavens sake.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
35. Fear is a powerful force
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:06 PM
Nov 2015

And paired with ignorance it's almost unstoppable. Our leaders have encouraged this for their own ends.

I come from slightly before that era. Ronald Reagan almost got the world nuked, but they asked us to be brave and to keep our values and dreams. They probably wish I'd forget they said that, but the damage is done.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
37. You must have a wonderful life...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:30 PM
Nov 2015

I truly feel sorry for this guy. His pain is unjustified. I would jump in a cab with him! What do bigots think he's going to do...drive them to their destination, take their fair, and then get out and empty his AK-47???

...but THIS is the saddest moment of you've experienced as apart of the human race?!

Growing up in SE Washington DC during the 80s, we called the witnessing of an unfairly grief-stricken individual "TUESDAY".

Must be nice.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
74. Exactly...a BIT too much
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:06 PM
Nov 2015

weeping over this one guy, as sad and unfortunate as prejudice is. Not that it was this person's fault, but I'm much sadder for the families and friends of all the murdered people.

brewens

(13,590 posts)
42. The people from the middle east that I meet are as polite, respectful and friendly as you
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:54 PM
Nov 2015

could ever hope for. I work blood drives at a couple of major universities in the northwest. Blood donors as a rule are almost without exception nice of course. I never know for sure their nationalities in many cases and never ask if they are Muslim. I just assume many are. I hope those kids I am familiar with, don't have any trouble over this.

One thing that I've been wondering about, and maybe I'm not paying enough attention. We have a great many high profile athletes in this country with Islamic sounding names. Do they have much to say about Islamaphobia? Of course many might be kids who's parents were Muslim that are not particularly religious in any way. Their parents were, and changed their names and named the kid accordingly.

A kid named Ameer Abdullah plays his entire college career at Nebraska and is now with Detroit in the NFL. It makes me wonder f he had any kind of harrassment playing at Nebraska or what he's have to say about that kind of thing?

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
53. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 05:42 AM
Nov 2015

is the most prominent Muslim in the United States that I can think of in terms of celebrity...and a damn good writer to boot...he may have something to say on this subject...and he does not suffer fools too much. EDIT: on second thought...don't ask Kareem, lol...again...


“Another horrendous act of terrorism has taken place and people like myself who are on media speed-dial under ‘Celebrity Muslims’ are thrust in the spotlight to angrily condemn, disavow, and explain—again—how these barbaric acts are in no way related to Islam,” Abdul-Jabbar, who converted to Islam in the late 1960s, wrote last month.


http://time.com/3662152/kareem-abdul-jabbar-paris-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks-are-not-about-religion/

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
50. Tragic
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:31 AM
Nov 2015

There is about three Muslim families living on my street, and all of them are very nice neighbors. Once in celebration of one of their holidays, one of the families knocked on several doors and offered people food they had made. It was so kind. Always the epitome of politeness.

I feel so sorry for this young man, but thank you for your kindness and sympathy to him.

Sam

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
61. My wife friend has a muslim husband.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:00 AM
Nov 2015

They are from India. She is Catholic...have no idea how that works ...he is a mellow and soft spoken a person as I have seen.

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
57. I thought this was sad too..
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 08:46 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/203416#.VkmOm8rzwfo

A Muslim cab driver was questioned by New York City police after he allegedly attacked a Jewish passenger.

The complainant, businessman Moshe Indig, told Arutz Sheva Sunday: "I took a cab from Manhattan to Brooklyn yesterday at 8 PM. I asked the driver to make a phone call. He refused but then relented and put the call on the speaker. When he saw that I was speaking Hebrew, he said: 'I hate the people and the language you are speaking. If I had known that you were a Jew, I would not have given you the call."

"When he dropped me off in Brooklyn I started walking and suddenly he got out of the vehicle and ran toward me and started punching me in the head. I was immediately concerned that he might have a knife or some other weapon, so I hit him forcefully. He grabbed my kippah and my cellphone and ran away."

Indig tried to grab back his belongings but the driver drove off and Indig fell from the car and was hurt. He later filed a police complaint. The cabbie was summoned to questioning and will probably be charged with a hate crime within the next few days.

"I was lucky," Indig summed up. "If he had had a knife, there is no doubt that he would have killed me. His eyes were full of hatred. He turned from a cab driver to a terrorist."
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
75. Hmmm.. I can't find anything about this in the NY papers
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

Not even in the rabidly right-wing Post, which would presumably be lapping this up like a cat would milk.

svpadgham

(670 posts)
60. Terrible
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:56 AM
Nov 2015

That's a shame. People being afraid of riding in his cab because of his religion is just wrong. I mean, there are so many other reasons to be afraid of riding in a NYC cab. HIYOOO!
Sorry, hacky late night comedy show host took over.

FreddyKruger

(1 post)
66. People are so gullible!
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:13 AM
Nov 2015

Thanks for being one of the only voices of reason. This story is BS. Not only would NYers not turn down a taxi on a Friday night, but how would you know a Muslim from an Israeli by sight? And then he sat behind the guy for the entire trip and didn't see his name tag, which is posted on the back of the driver's seat? lol So easy to go viral these days.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
106. +1000
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:02 PM
Nov 2015

I'm not buying it either. I lived there for 12 years. There is no way we would turn down a taxi at 11pm on a Friday night no matter who was driving it. I think the guy who wrote this was trying to draw attention to himself, not the cab driver.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
101. Exactly! I could maybe see this happening is some small southern or midwestern
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:04 PM
Nov 2015

city, but not New York. I lived there during 9/11 and it never occurred to us to refuse cabbies who "looked" muslim or seemed to have muslim last names. New Yorkers are much too pragmatic for such a thing. A taxi is a taxi - we didn't care who was driving it.

patsimp

(915 posts)
65. Some of my saddest moments are thinking about those killed
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:02 AM
Nov 2015

by Islamist Terrorists in the name of their religion at:

- the Boston Marathon
- Mumbai
- 911
- France (twice this year)
- Spain

If the Islamic terrorists stop killing people, I'm sure people will stop the blame.

btw - I don't see a lot of coordinated condemnation on twitter of the barbaric acts by leaders of the Muslim community. Maybe I'm missing something.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
67. What makes me cry...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

...is the damage religion does to people.

"My god..." doesn't believe or do anything because he doesn't exist. These ancient superstitions were helpful in ancient time, but now, adhering to them is just harmful.

niyad

(113,325 posts)
68. how very sad indeed. "they", whoever "they", win by fear-mongering, divisiveness, hatred,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:50 PM
Nov 2015

fear and loathing of "the other". keep our attention focused over here, so we have no time or energy to see what they are doing over there.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
69. But, kpete, you did offer
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 12:50 PM
Nov 2015

good dialogue, understanding and empathy for the average Muslim. I would have been in tears, also. Thanks for being a good example.


kpete

(71,996 posts)
81. not ME, i live on the left coast
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:21 PM
Nov 2015


A Muslim taxi driver was not able to pick up a fare for hours after the terrorist attacks in Paris, claims a passenger who had him 'in tears' after his message of support.

Alex Malloy, 23, caught a cab in Manhattan, New York, around 11pm on Friday evening - just hours after the horrific coordinated attacks in Paris that left 129 people dead and hundreds injured.

He claims the driver told him he was his first passenger is two hours after the bombings left many suspicious of his Muslim faith in what he described as the 'saddest moment he has experienced.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319566/Muslim-taxi-driver-not-pick-fare-hours-following-Paris-attacks-broke-tears-passenger-showed-support.html#ixzz3rgT1aTv2
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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
107. Alex Molloy likes to take selfies and draw attention to himself on social media.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 11:07 PM
Nov 2015

And make up stories about muslim cab drivers to make himself sound like "a really great guy".

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
76. I blame the obscene languaging of the GOP and Conservative-leaning Pols
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

Again and again, I hear people like Ted Cruz and others routinely equate
Islam with terrorism via intentional languaging.

Simply a fundamental conservative-Christian sense of rivalry and hostility towards a competing religion.

Hateful pettiness, that with further propaganda, can mutate into an appetite for destruction,
which no doubt pleases our rapacious war-seeking elites.

lark

(23,105 posts)
77. Thank you for this post.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:47 PM
Nov 2015

I really appreciate your showing the human face of this issue, so many lose perspective when terrible things happen. I got so sick of seeing posts like:

Don't pray for Paris, Get Even! As if anyone who's Muslim can be blamed for that atrocity. Islam is a peaceful religion and demonizing the major religion on earth isn't smart for us. It's a radical sect who are hated by their own people (speaking of Muslim's) as not representing their faith and as abominations. We don't need to retaliate against the refugees, they are victims of ISIS in ways we can't even imagine. We need to actually spend time and get ISIS, those responsible for this, not just fire, aim.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
78. Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs,
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:52 PM
Nov 2015
Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. Friedrich Nietzsche;

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
83. This is why, regardless of who the Democratic candidate winds up to be, we must support him or her
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:27 PM
Nov 2015

Because over there in Conservative-land, it is frightening to see that "round up all the Muslims and deport them" is the MODERATE option, due to the extremist tea partiers screaming for a "round up all the Muslims and shoot them" option.

Every Democrat is better than any of the Republican candidates. Blind hatred of practitioners of Islam has no place at all over here.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
88. So the terrorist murders of 129 people in Paris cost him some cab fares!?!?
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

Really!!! Somebody send this guy a box of tissues!

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
98. I can't speak to the truth or falseness of the quoted material.
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 07:35 PM
Nov 2015

I can say that I worry about my middle son, who looks like his father, with olive complexion, dark hair and eyes and a big nose. I worry that some rube in this sanity-forsaken repuke hell hole will assume he is Muslim/Middle Eastern and do something to him.

This has been a worry since 9-11, especially when he lets his hair get long and he grows a beard. We are not of any Middle Eastern descent, but have quite a bit of Native American ancestry, and my ex husband may possibly have some Jewish heritage (though he hates the thought, fundy that he is).

I'm sick of the hatred. I'm sick of the wars, sick of the killing. Sick of religions of all kinds, and the people who use them to hurt and control others.

3catwoman3

(24,006 posts)
104. The day after the September 11th attacks, the ice cream...
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 10:51 PM
Nov 2015

...truck came thru our neighborhood, as it always did. The driver looked to be of middle eastern heritage. He was giving away his merchandise, as if to try to reassure people that he was a good person who meant no harm to anyone. My heart ached for him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
109. Oh, for god's sake! I can't actually believe that anybody is falling for this
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:55 PM
Nov 2015

ridiculous story! Sorry people, this shit just does not happen in NYC. It just doesn't. This little hipster f-tard is just looking for some attention, that's all. It's not a real story.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
112. The only time I usually take a cab is from the airport to my downtown Minneapolis office.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

If I turned down a cab driven by someone of the Muslim faith, I would be waiting for hours for a cab.

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