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pstokely

(10,530 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:30 PM Nov 2015

Was the boycott a positive branding move for Missouri football?

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/sports/mizzou_football/was-the-boycott-a-positive-branding-move-for-missouri-football/article_2864173a-8808-11e5-977f-57a02efbd7ed.html
"The football strike is over. The attention is not. College football is big business, and as the team moves forward, it’ll be presented with the chance to turn this moment into a positive branding move, some experts said — despite the fact that players are openly acknowledging racism exists at the university they represent.

"There's always immediate brand damage," said Joseph Favorito, a sports management professor at Columbia University in New York. He previously worked in communications for multiple professional sports franchises. "If you’re involved in it that second, it's hyper critical. How you handle it is much more important."

If Missouri presents a unified front, that'd be positive, said Kristi Dosh, a college athletics consultant and author of two books on sports business. She'd brand the team boycott with a family message — a message the program has used in the past.

"You don't focus on what the situation was; you don't focus on the racial nature of it," Dosh said. "You focus on people at Missouri are willing to stand up for what they believe in."
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more probably will be probably drop their season tickets after they go 4-8 than any boycott
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brush

(53,815 posts)
1. Definitely positive. The coach backing the team guaranteed more bluechip recruits . . .
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:35 PM
Nov 2015

to that university.

A coach can't get much better PR than that.

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)
6. Most of these kids think they're going to the League
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:53 PM
Nov 2015

It's unrealistic for all but a handful, but that's their mindset. They will go where they think they'll have the best chance to 1: win championships and 2: get to the next level. How they relate to the head coach does matter, but they spend more time with the assistant coaches, during the recruiting process, and once they get to campus. What I'm saying is that their perception of the HC is a factor, but other factors are at least as important, if not more so.

Pinkel had the potential to hurt himself badly if he screwed up more than help himself if he handled it well. So in that sense he avoided a pitfall. And he's made himself unfireable for a couple of years, regardless of on-field results. He was coming off back to back seasons when he challenged for the SEC title, so he was in decent shape there, although Mizzou's having a losing season, so there's some grumbling.

Which raises another point. It was easy for these guys to threaten a strike, because there's nothing in front of them to play for at this point. I wonder if they'd done so if they were in contention for a conference title and/or playoff berth. Call me a cynic, but I think probably not. Some of them were already joking about it on twitter after it ended, so I don't know how seriously they were taking it.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
9. I agree
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:26 PM
Nov 2015

They were probably hoping they wouldn't have to play the rest of the season.

And I'm not sure I would want my kid going to a university where 30 students can decide whether or not a President stays or goes.

brush

(53,815 posts)
14. Ah-h-h-h-h . . . there weren't just 30 students
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:27 PM
Nov 2015

Some faculty, grad students and 68% of the football team and their coaches protested to IMPROVE that university.

I wouldn't want my kid going to a university where some students and faculty felt unsafe because they were constantly being called racial slurs.

How about you?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
15. It wasn't
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:31 PM
Nov 2015

the faculty and grad students that got the President and chancellor to step down - it was the football players.

As for "constantly being called racial slurs", that's a new one...I've heard about two specific incidents that the students were complaining about.

And I would want my kids to go someplace where free speech, even hateful/hurtful speech, is recognized as a Constitutional right that should be countered with more free speech, not shut down because someone doesn't want to hear it.

brush

(53,815 posts)
17. So calling people the "N" word is good with you?
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:39 PM
Nov 2015

How fucking laughable.

Don't bother responding as I have nothing more to say to you.

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)
19. The horseshoe hypothesis of political theory
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015

extremes of left and right meet at totalitarianism. A form of intersectionality, if you will. Very evident on DU with this issue.

pstokely

(10,530 posts)
8. several people on a mizzou fan board are claiming they're now boycotting the football program
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:58 PM
Nov 2015

they probably be back on board their next good season
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SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
16. Very true
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

The only thing easier than refusing to play when your team sucks is refusing to support a team that sucks.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
2. I don't understand why the strike is over
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:37 PM
Nov 2015

Only one of many demands was met (the resignation of the President). He did not abase himself as the demand specified.

We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1-­9-­5-0 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned Student 1-9-5-­0 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
5. Do you really think that demand will ever be entirely fulfilled?
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:51 PM
Nov 2015

Tim Wolfe probably doesn't care if the Mizzou football team plays or not.

 

Bottoms_Up

(24 posts)
12. I think the entirty of demands was unreasonable...
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:43 PM
Nov 2015

Not to say that what they wanted wasn't warranted.

But if you ask an administrator to resign (holding a strike over their head), once they quit your strike doesn't mean jack shit to them. Why would they continue to want to appease you at the cost of their own humiliation? You can strike until the cows come home and what the hell does he care? He quit and is just another bystander watching the report on faux newz later that day.

They should've demanded all the abasement and humiliation first, and then demanded his resignation later.

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etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
13. Don't know or care about the 'football" branding, but it sure is good for humanity
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:22 PM
Nov 2015

I am really proud of these students!

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