15$ min?

[clydefrand]

If all min. wage earner jumped to $15/hr., how long long would it be befor they couldn't afford anymore than NOW?
In mean time, old folks will be way behind have a living earning income. Go figure who get helped, who gets screwed!

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. Funny....he only pays his interns $12!

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[katsy]

2. I was legal guardian

To a Japanese student living in US with me. I sent her to space camp one summer and she connected with someone at museum of natural history in DC.

She was offered an internship and accepted. Non-paying. Room and board.

It was the best exp of her life. Some internships pay, just non-monetarily. These life experiences aren't meant to give young people careers they give a glimpse into the workings of certain institutions.

Much like internships on capital hill I would imagine.

[zalinda]

5. Which is above minimum wage

and will be until 2017. Fifteen dollars an hour won't become national until 2020. But, you knew that.

Z

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. But STILL $3 an hour less than he is charging

The nation do now not in 2020..why be hypocritical? Step UP Bernie....YOU first!


I hope like hell he brings up his minimum wage charge against Hillary in debates.

[zalinda]

20. That is not the truth

He is not asking for $15 an hour now, because he knows it's not doable especially for the smaller businesses.

From Bernie's website. https://berniesanders.com/issues/a-living-wage/

Millions of Americans are working for totally inadequate wages. We must ensure that no full-time worker lives in poverty. The current federal minimum wage is starvation pay and must become a living wage. We must increase it to $15 an hour over the next several years.

Apparently you couldn't go to his page to check it out. Hillary supports a $12 a hour federal minimum wage.

Z

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Hillary interns are unpaid but get free coffee

[VanillaRhapsody]

16. How does that change it?

Does he or dies he not want $15?

Some "Socialist" he is!!! Practice what you preach Dr. Sanders?

[Recursion]

3. We've never done a minimum wage jump this big so we don't really know

It's not clear what that would do to the wage level, the employment level, or inflation. It's higher than the median wage in 3 states, for instance. Not saying we shouldn't do it, just that we acknowledge that we don't know what all the consequences will be.

[MH1]

14. It seems to me there should be a graduated increase AND tie to the rate of inflation

So that we never need to rely on Congress to increase the minimum wage.

To avoid significant, negative, unexpected consequences, instead of going from the current rate to $15/ hr it should go up something like $2 per year until it gets to $15 (or maybe more), then from there on be tied to the rate of inflation so that there is an automatic step up each year.

[ryan_cats]

4. In

In all the tender hearted bleating on this issue, no one seems to have a clue what the unintended consequences are, except me.

A few:

Costs will go up, will people pay $10 for a Big Mac? Yes, I saw the worthless study where someone with a vested interest said a minimum wage hike would only raise prices x%.

Low paying jobs will soon be automated. Seen the new Ipad kiosks at tables???

Down the road the government will see an increase in taxes paid and will see a clear path to more revenue in a lovely feedback loop.

So go for it, lower the already low standard of living for the working poor, what really matters is that you felt better doing it.

Others, will do what they always do, work towards a better living standard through education and hard work.

[Dem2]

7. Is this tongue in cheek?

[n2doc]

8. Don't let facts or reality get in the way of a good RW story n/t

[MH1]

15. "Low paying jobs will soon be automated." --- that is happening anyway.

There is a point past which you can't automate; where you need a human being to provide personal service. But up to that point will happen ANYWAY and as a society we really need to be thinking about how we handle that. (**ahem** shorter work week **ahem**)

[AOR]

18. Yep...

and that's why the working class needs to control our own destiny. That means public control of the commons, resources, and the means and distribution of production. Technology and automation are good things in the control of the working class as a public entity of the whole. Technology and automation in the hands of a parasite ruling class of privateer pirates and capitalist owners is not. Someone has to build the automation. The working class will have no problem taking over the automation and distributing the result of that production in a more equitable manner. We built it. We own it. Labor is entitled to do the decision making of ALL it creates. Without labor these private owner parasites don't have a leg to stand on.

[taught_me_patience]

9. It will probably be too much for high labor businesses to bear

Restaurants will be hurt the hardest. Expect big price increases, worse quality, and many of your small local favorites going out of business. McDonalds will survive quite nicely, though.

[Lancero]

10. Restaurants as is don't 'actually' have to pay current minimum.

Most states let them run on tipped wage, so all they have to pay is a portion of minimum wage - In the bulk of states following this, 2.13 - and make up for however much under minimum they are after tips.

Even with a wage increase, they'd still be able to use tipped wages so they still won't 'actually' have to pay them minimum.

[taught_me_patience]

12. Not in California.

Min is $9 + tips. It'll be $10 + tips next year.

[Lancero]

19. Most states, California is one of the exceptions.

18 states, the majority of them, pay 2.13 and tips.

Another 5 pay slightly more - Dimes more, so almost half the states pay under $3 dollars a hour by this.

Only 7 states pay above minimum. One state comes close to paying minimum at $7 a hour.

[karadax]

11. Restaurants are starting to eliminate tips

In favor of a higher wage for workers. I just saw that Joe's Crab Shack just implemented this to all their chains. It's already been implied that food prices will go up but unsure by how much.

We will see how this goes. I always found it acceptable to reward those that work hard to shine.

[olddots]

17. economics is math that changes with population

Unfortunately nobody added robotics into the equations .

The price of goods made by robotics gets lower but with 7 billion humans our services must be paid higher .All of this makes little sence to us mortals but we better start figuring it out .