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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Future of Policing Is Here, and It's Terrifying
Last month, the local press in New York confirmed what civil rights advocates had been saying for years: the NYPD has been driving around in unmarked vans chock full of X-ray equipment and scanning for... something.
It was a major story, mostly because not much is known about Z Backscatter vans other than that they cost somewhere between $729,000 and $825,000. Yet, theres no way to know for sure what they're capable of because the NYPD refuses to talk about them, even though the ACLU won a lawsuit that required the department to reveal records about the vans (including their potential health impacts on people who might be exposed to X-rays without knowing it). The devices we have, the vehicles if you will, are all used lawfully and if the ACLU and others dont think thats the case, well see them in courtwhere theyll lose! Commissioner Bill Bratton told the New York Post.
The X-ray vans bring up all kinds of concerns about privacy, health, and general ickinessno one wants to walk around New York wondering whether some bored cop in a van is checking out your skivviesbut by todays police tech standards, the vans are actually relatively low-tech and benign. Departments large and small are using a host of new gadgetsfrom laser light weapons that can induce vomiting to surveillance systems that can predict crimes before they happen.
And whats scariest of all is the majority of these technologies are being funneled down from the U.S. Military, down into neighborhoods that are most definitely not war zones. After 15 years of war, theres a demand for all these companies to find new markets for all these technologies, said Joel Pruce a professor of human rights at the University of Dayton who studies police technology. So it trickles down from the military to police. The revelations about the backscatter vans were just one more sign that the future of policing is here, and it's terrifying.
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All told, these new technologies are only as good as the people using them (i.e. cops), and if the last year in policing was any indicator, law enforcement arent great at moderating their use of any tool they get their hands on, which is a frightening thought, considering those tools include tanks. These new devices require tons of radical (and expensive) training and new policy, something local municipalities are hesitant to create under the watchful eye of the public. Police departments, however, say that theyre implementing these technologies in ways that dont violate the civil rights of Americans. Its actually pretty tedious to introduce new technology, Bertomen said. Its a liability-prone environment, so training takes a long time.
The problem is, its hard for the public to know whether thats true. As the NYPDs reluctance to even acknowledge their X-ray vans shows, police are resistant to opening up their process to scrutiny. Itd be nice if law enforcement worked hand in hand with civil rights groups to figure this stuff out, Pruce said. But that doesnt seem likely to happen.
It was a major story, mostly because not much is known about Z Backscatter vans other than that they cost somewhere between $729,000 and $825,000. Yet, theres no way to know for sure what they're capable of because the NYPD refuses to talk about them, even though the ACLU won a lawsuit that required the department to reveal records about the vans (including their potential health impacts on people who might be exposed to X-rays without knowing it). The devices we have, the vehicles if you will, are all used lawfully and if the ACLU and others dont think thats the case, well see them in courtwhere theyll lose! Commissioner Bill Bratton told the New York Post.
The X-ray vans bring up all kinds of concerns about privacy, health, and general ickinessno one wants to walk around New York wondering whether some bored cop in a van is checking out your skivviesbut by todays police tech standards, the vans are actually relatively low-tech and benign. Departments large and small are using a host of new gadgetsfrom laser light weapons that can induce vomiting to surveillance systems that can predict crimes before they happen.
And whats scariest of all is the majority of these technologies are being funneled down from the U.S. Military, down into neighborhoods that are most definitely not war zones. After 15 years of war, theres a demand for all these companies to find new markets for all these technologies, said Joel Pruce a professor of human rights at the University of Dayton who studies police technology. So it trickles down from the military to police. The revelations about the backscatter vans were just one more sign that the future of policing is here, and it's terrifying.
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All told, these new technologies are only as good as the people using them (i.e. cops), and if the last year in policing was any indicator, law enforcement arent great at moderating their use of any tool they get their hands on, which is a frightening thought, considering those tools include tanks. These new devices require tons of radical (and expensive) training and new policy, something local municipalities are hesitant to create under the watchful eye of the public. Police departments, however, say that theyre implementing these technologies in ways that dont violate the civil rights of Americans. Its actually pretty tedious to introduce new technology, Bertomen said. Its a liability-prone environment, so training takes a long time.
The problem is, its hard for the public to know whether thats true. As the NYPDs reluctance to even acknowledge their X-ray vans shows, police are resistant to opening up their process to scrutiny. Itd be nice if law enforcement worked hand in hand with civil rights groups to figure this stuff out, Pruce said. But that doesnt seem likely to happen.
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The Future of Policing Is Here, and It's Terrifying (Original Post)
davidn3600
Nov 2015
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cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)1. LEOs - Terrorizing The 99% - To Protect And Serve The 1%
eom
leveymg
(36,418 posts)2. Real life is becoming a scene out of another Phillip K Dick novel
Last edited Wed Nov 11, 2015, 08:52 AM - Edit history (1)
Total Recall, the scene in the Martian subway where everybody gets x-rayed.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)3. It is no longer policing. It is an occupation. You, your children, and your neighbors only live
as long as they choose to let you, and if they murder you, most likely that will be the end of it.
USA.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)7. That seems increasingly the stark reality... eom
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)5. Thank the NRA for flooding the streets with guns and arsenals.
The US is the most heavily armed country on earth so what do you expect? Barney Fife style police?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)6. We cut food stamps and pay for this nonsense.
Really! That's disgusting.
Are we such a horrible people that we need that kind of policing. I don't think so.
icymist
(15,888 posts)8. Well, that explains endless war...
To develop the weapons and surveillance technologies to use on it's own people! Incredible!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)9. Kick and R