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niyad

(113,511 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:00 PM Nov 2015

Feud over woman may have led to fatal police shooting of autistic Louisiana boy: cops


Feud over woman may have led to fatal police shooting of autistic Louisiana boy: cops







The horrific police shooting of a autistic boy in Louisiana might have stemmed from a feud over a woman — and police are now investigating if bad blood brought on the boy’s bloody demise.
One of the accused killer cops, Norris Greenhouse Jr., was a high school classmate of Chris Few, who was shot several times last week. Greenhouse and a fellow deputy city marshal, Derrick Stafford, also allegedly gunned down Few’s 6-year-old son, Jeremy Mardis.

Few’s fiance Megan Dixon told The Advocate Greenhouse had a recent run-in with Few. The marshal had been messaging Dixon on Facebook, and stopped by the house she shared with Few.The meeting did not go well. “I told Chris and Chris confronted him about it and told him, ‘Next time you come to my house I’m going to hurt you,” Dixon told the Advocate.

It’s unclear if any of the three kept in touch before the shooting or what Greenhouse said to Dixon in his messages. Dixon could not be reached for further comment.Greenhouse and Stafford are accused of driving up to Few and his son at a dead end and firing 18 shots at them.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/feud-led-police-shoot-autistic-la-boy-cops-article-1.2429869

The marshals said they were trying to serve a warrant on Few, but city officials said there is no evidence of any warrant for the father, nor any evidence that he was armed or attacked the marshals. Body cam footage, which has not been released, shows Few had his hands up in the car, according to Few's lawyer.

Greenhouse and Stafford are each charged with murder and attempted murder, and are being held on $1 million bail.
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Feud over woman may have led to fatal police shooting of autistic Louisiana boy: cops (Original Post) niyad Nov 2015 OP
Oh my God. Oh my god. Oh. My. God. Oh no. This is bad. bravenak Nov 2015 #1
pity we don't have a penal colony in outer space. niyad Nov 2015 #2
Like Alien3. Yes. bravenak Nov 2015 #3
I'm up for creating one Stargazer09 Nov 2015 #4
Me too. Send them to mine the moon or something. Or mars. bravenak Nov 2015 #6
His murder was horrific malaise Nov 2015 #18
From what I've read EL34x4 Nov 2015 #19
Precisely malaise Nov 2015 #22
I hope they never get out. bravenak Nov 2015 #36
If this is true, GGJohn Nov 2015 #5
one of the lawyers on the board can probably answer, but I would think, YES. niyad Nov 2015 #7
For first degree Old Codger Nov 2015 #8
Ok, thanks. GGJohn Nov 2015 #9
Also Old Codger Nov 2015 #10
Thanks for the info. GGJohn Nov 2015 #11
If it's like my state, the initial murder charge is almost always 2nd degree murder The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #12
In Louisiana, the only difference between 1st and 2nd degree is the death penalty Ex Lurker Nov 2015 #23
This is good. GGJohn Nov 2015 #24
Let's see if I understand this . . . OldRedneck Nov 2015 #13
"protect and serve our own interests, and the oligarchs." niyad Nov 2015 #29
Huh. I notice all the folks that were screaming JoeyT Nov 2015 #14
Yup Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #15
Oh there are a LOT of authoritarians biting their tongues right now. Rex Nov 2015 #16
Funny how that works huh? GGJohn Nov 2015 #25
Me too, but anyone would have noticed the lack of gun evidence...not even a throw down. Rex Nov 2015 #32
I agree, GGJohn Nov 2015 #33
just as glad that they are absent. they contribute nothing to intelligent discourse. niyad Nov 2015 #30
If the father would have been killed alone, they probably would have gotten away with it Democat Nov 2015 #17
There's more. KayLaw Nov 2015 #20
I wonder how many other women were forced Lars39 Nov 2015 #21
Hopefully not for much longer. eom. GGJohn Nov 2015 #26
And dad is preparing to post bail exboyfil Nov 2015 #28
Here is a very long thread on another site with a lot of inside baseball stuff Ex Lurker Nov 2015 #31
It would seem to me if this family was known to the LEO's then they would know a child was involved. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #27
Not reckless. Murderous. Iggo Nov 2015 #35
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #34
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Oh my God. Oh my god. Oh. My. God. Oh no. This is bad.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:02 PM
Nov 2015

That poor baby. Sweet child. Under the jail.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
18. His murder was horrific
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:23 AM
Nov 2015

What they did to his daddy was just as bad as killing him. The only good news is that these murderous scumbags will be locked away for life.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
5. If this is true,
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:16 PM
Nov 2015

then wouldn't 1st degree murder and attempted 1st degree murder charges be appropriate?
If this was over a woman, then it sounds like this was planned, which would make it 1st degree murder.
Am I wrong here?

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
8. For first degree
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:11 AM
Nov 2015

all that is required is premeditation, and it doesn't need to be planned well in advance... also have a possible case of conspiracy to commit murder if they planned it together... Only way to get out of the premeditation on this is that they most likely(hopefully) didn't think about killing the boy just the dad, that makes it a little more iffy.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
9. Ok, thanks.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:16 AM
Nov 2015

So the charge of 2nd degree murder for he child is the correct charge but those 2 should be charged with attempted 1st degree murder for the shooting of the dad.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
10. Also
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:20 AM
Nov 2015

Every state has different criteria for the charges, it comes to the prosecutor in the end he must decide what he wants the charge to be.. some states have a special circumstances law also that can make it even tougher on the criminal, sometimes that is required to go for the death penalty.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
11. Thanks for the info.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:31 AM
Nov 2015

I'm personally opposed to the DP, but in this case, I'm having a tough time justifying my opposition, but be as that may, if these 2 are convicted of 2nd murder, they should be put in a deep dark hole to contemplate the heinous crime they committed for the rest of their miserable lives.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
12. If it's like my state, the initial murder charge is almost always 2nd degree murder
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:36 AM
Nov 2015

because 1st degree murder has to be charged by indictment. So the initial complaint charges 2nd degree to hold the defendant until they can get a 1st degree indictment. It's just the way the procedure works.

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)
23. In Louisiana, the only difference between 1st and 2nd degree is the death penalty
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:25 AM
Nov 2015

is in play for 1st degree. Both carry mandatory life without parole otherwise. Prosecutors will usually go for second degree if there's any doubt whatsoever about getting a death penalty verdict, since it's an easier conviction and the same punishment.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
13. Let's see if I understand this . . .
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:44 AM
Nov 2015

One of the marshals was trying to get it on with a guy's girlfriend. Guy told the marshal to stay away from the woman. Marshal and his fellow marshal trump up a reason to stop the guy and proceed to shoot him and kill a 6-yr-old.

What was that about "Protect and Serve?"

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
14. Huh. I notice all the folks that were screaming
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 01:56 AM
Nov 2015

about what a terrible father he was and how cops are saints and how DARE we question them are absent from these threads. I guess they're all tuckered out from lying about how he was shooting at the cops.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Oh there are a LOT of authoritarians biting their tongues right now.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:47 AM
Nov 2015

What can they say that wouldn't be obvious bs? Glad their kind are staying away.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
25. Funny how that works huh?
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:16 AM
Nov 2015

I thought right away that this didn't pass the smell test and was horrified at those justifying the shooting.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Me too, but anyone would have noticed the lack of gun evidence...not even a throw down.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

The other two cops were not playing ball on this one. I'd flee for my life with my son. Shit...this case is one of the worse I've ever seen. Maybe white America will open it's eyes now. This was straight up murder.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
17. If the father would have been killed alone, they probably would have gotten away with it
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:55 AM
Nov 2015

The shooting death of the child is what made this story interesting to the media. If two officers would have murdered an adult male, they probably would have gotten away with it.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
28. And dad is preparing to post bail
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:30 AM
Nov 2015

for his son.

I got to think $1M is a little low. I have to wonder if the land is truly worth $1M. It might be worth it to skip town.

http://www.katc.com/story/30491146/father-of-marksville-officer-preparing-to-post-bond-for-son

Ex Lurker

(3,815 posts)
31. Here is a very long thread on another site with a lot of inside baseball stuff
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:19 PM
Nov 2015

by people from the area and surrounding areas, some of whom are lawyers. Most of it is typical rumors and speculation no different than here, but I'm linking it starting at page 50, where the pertinent background information starts coming out.

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-lounge/marksville-city-marshalsbreaking-two-officers-charged-with-murder/59888124/page-50/

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. It would seem to me if this family was known to the LEO's then they would know a child was involved.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:20 AM
Nov 2015

Just plain recklessness.

Iggo

(47,563 posts)
35. Not reckless. Murderous.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:33 PM
Nov 2015

They murdered that kid while they were trying to murder his father.

Cops.

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