Well FUCK the NRA.

[Agschmid]

Not sure if anyone just saw that ad pre the debate.

I'll try to find the link.

First time I've seen this shit, apparently it's been around for a while. What crap.

[Control-Z]

1. I haven't been paying attention.

Who is airing it?

[Agschmid]

2. Fox Business Channel

No figure the ads are crap.

[Control-Z]

3. Thanks.

I might watch a little.

[Agschmid]

4. Kiddie debate it on now.

If you have nothing better to do.

[Control-Z]

20. I cant. I tried, but I just can't.

Fiorina just made me vomit in my mouth, more than a little.

I know when to stop.

[Kingofalldems]

5. So the NRA really doesn't represent gun manufacturers?

Must be true, some guy on TV said so!

[Agschmid]

6. No apparently our guns are to protect ourselves from ISIS?

[Kingofalldems]

7. That ad clearly directed at morons.

I think they believe they will be fighting ISIS on the streets of America.

[Shandris]

8. Yes, I'm sure Europeans remember mocking that thought too.

Seems the tide has changed here of late, though. I wonder why that is?

[Kingofalldems]

9. So you believe ISIS will come here and try to take over?

[Shandris]

10. Is that what I said?

If your answer is 'no' (and it is), perhaps you might consider why you are so quick to put those words in my mouth.

[Kingofalldems]

13. Implied.

Just asked a question based on your answer.

[Shandris]

15. No, it was not implied. And no, I don't think they're coming here in all likelihood.

What was implied is that the blanket statement/thought that it is somehow impossible for it to happen is likewise stupid. It is possible, but not likely. It's not what I would consider even a 'strong' possible. But mocking it, with Europe currently standing as an example, is silly. Nothing more, and nothing less.

[Agschmid]

11. FFS.

Here we go.

[Shandris]

12. On the contrary, 'we' aren't 'going' anywhere. n/t.

[Agschmid]

14. You already "went" apparently.

[Shandris]

16. Since you seem to know so little of what I believe other than 'apparently'...

...perhaps you should hold off on the accusations until there's a little more evidence, neh? If for no other reason than courtesy. Not that you'd be in bad company if you didn't, I suppose, since a whole slew of people ignored me long ago, but that's neither here nor there.

Either way, meta subthreads don't really entertain me. I'm going to sign off of this one. Have a good night.

[madokie]

17. Twice in the last few years I've gotten correspondence from the nra

and both times I called the 1-800 number and chewed the person who answered the phone out up one side and down the other and demanded they remove my name and address from their mailing list. Explaining I'm a 15 month Vietnam Vet and have no guns and have no plans to ever have any guns and further more I DO NOT agree with anything the nra stands for or says and I don't want their bullshit in my mail box. It made me feel good both times. Its been over a year since the last call so maybe they got the message.

[etherealtruth]

18. More fear mongering by the NRA

Mercifully, right wing groups (ie the NRA) are not paid sponsors of the Democratic debates, so we want have to suffer through this garbage when watching our debates

[MiniMe]

19. No, I don't want to, but you go ahead...

[CBHagman]

21. Appropriately, "Frontline" on PBS is airing "Gunned Down" tonight.

It's about the gun lobby and particularly about the aftermath of the Tucson and Newtown shootings.

[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gunned-down/[/url]

[Agschmid]

22. Thanks I should watch that.

[mwrguy]

23. Nice neckbeard they have for a spokesman

[Lulu Belle]

28. That's Marcus Luttrell

Navy SEAL and Navy Cross recipient.
You should read about him before you make fun of his appearance.
Plus, it's chickenshit to do that to anyone.

[NCTraveler]

31. What's chickenshit is to do what he is doing here. nt.

[branford]

33. Do you ever wonder why the NRA is so successful?

One of the reasons is exactly the arrogance, elitism and bigoted, condescending regionalism of many in the gun control movement and characterized by statements like your post.

For reference, the man in the video is Marcus Luttrel. He's a highly decorated war hero, and his story was the basis for the film Lone Survivor. He's quite the contrast to your gun control mode, a NYC Republican billionaire surrounded by armed guards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Luttrell

[LanternWaste]

35. Your main premise, being unsupported by objective evidence, is merely an allegation

"One of the reasons is exactly..."

Your main premise, being unsupported by objective evidence, is merely an allegation rather than a response. That said, I do realize the mental convenience bumper-sticker philosophies allow the irrational thinker... hence, its trending popularity.

[jmowreader]

24. Not sure why they think politicians are to be "feared"

The modern-day American politician is COMPLETELY under the control of the NRA. The NRA could demand a "gun mandate" - like an Obamacare insurance mandate, but yo'd have to own a gun instead - and get one. They are THAT powerful.

[beevul]

25. Hate on the nra all you like, but don't deny reality.

Assault Weapons Ban proposed in Wisconsin


Under the bill, whoever transports, purchases, possesses, or transfers a semiautomatic assault weapon is guilty of a felony and may be fined up to $10,000, sentenced to a term of imprisonment of up to six years, or both.

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/78/subeck/media/1149/15-3635_1-002.pdf

This bill would ban most semi-automatic rifles, some handguns, and doesn't have a grandfather clause, so if enacted would amount to confiscation. Somehow, that doesn't seem to have come from a "modern-day American politician COMPLETELY under the control of the NRA" to me.

How about you?

[jmowreader]

26. Check a little closer; that bill was withdrawn by its sponsor

http://mediatrackers.org/wisconsin/2015/11/09/wis-dems-retreat-gun-confiscation-plan

How long DID you look for that clearly unconstitutional bill?

[beevul]

34. It took about 2 seconds to find.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172180721


Again, that doesn't seem to have come from a "modern-day American politician COMPLETELY under the control of the NRA" to me.

How about you?

[LanternWaste]

36. Comparing the aberration to the norm is a logical fallacy.

Comparing the statistical aberration to the norm in order to find correlation is a logical fallacy.

[beevul]

38. I'll remember that...

I'll remember that next time theres a mass shooting.

[Eleanors38]

40. Sponsor decided Democrats were indeed under-represented in Wisc.

[lonestarnot]

27. I think that crap vanished into thin air.

[hack89]

29. It is the voters they fear.

that is the true power of the NRA - they can mobilize voters like no other organization.

[Eleanors38]

41. Either them or the LGBTQ community. Two most effective pressure groups in U.S.

[NCTraveler]

30. Fuck the NRA. K&R nt.

[spanone]

32. big man!!! ooh, i'm so intimidated!! ooh, bad ass! ooh...wayne lapierre up his ass...ooh

[Initech]

37. Did you expect anything less?

Fuck that terrorist group and their enablers.

[Erose999]

39. Fuck the NRA and everyone who supports them. In the words of the late great Wesley Willis...

they can suck a cheetah's dick.

This video is much more enlightening than anything the NRA has to say. Those cocksuckers have more American blood on their hands than ISIS and Al Qaeda combined.