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George Herbert Walker Bush Reveals Cheney Considered Using Nuclear Weapons Against Iraq
George Bush Sr book reveals a more dangerous Dick Cheney than anyone knew
Destiny and Power shows a VP with more authority than almost all his predecessors, making plain Bush Jrs administration could have been even worse
Julian Borger, Diplomatic editor
The Guardian, Thursday 5 November 2015
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This unilateralist inclination was clearly the younger Bushs choice. It was how he intended from the outset to make his foreign policy distinctive from his fathers. And it was this characteristic that made for such a dangerously volatile and over-reaching US response when the 9/11 attacks came.
There is no doubt that Cheney and Rumsfeld were given more licence and authority than almost all their predecessors once the war on terror began. Cheney was certainly the most powerful vice-president of modern times, with a large and assertive staff, something that Bush Sr draws particular attention to.
Cheney and Rumsfeld used their enhanced power to poison the flow of information to the presidents desk about Iraq and its supposed weapons of mass destruction. The vice-president even made repeated trips to CIA headquarters in Langley to bully analysts into producing more hawkish reports, while Rumsfelds Pentagon sucked up highly dubious evidence from Iraqi exiles and ideological freelancers. But, as even as the ever-forgiving father admits in Meachams book, it was President Bush who allowed Cheney to grow his own empire.
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Perhaps the most alarming revelation to emerge from the new Bush biography is the elder mans recollection that while Cheney had been his defence secretary, he had commissioned a study on how many tactical nuclear weapons would be needed to eliminate a division of Saddam Husseins Republican Guard.
Apparently the answer was 17, though a more profound conclusion is that Cheney was a more dangerous figure than anyone knew. It adds weight to reporting by Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker that Cheney also contemplated the use of low-yield nuclear bunker-busters against Irans underground uranium enrichment facilities. The more we hear about the George W Bush administration, the clearer it becomes that the global damage it wrought could have been even worse.
SOURCE: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/05/george-bush-sr-book-reveals-a-more-dangerous-dick-cheney-than-anyone-knew
And people wonder why I'm angry that these traitors walk free.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Mr. Other Priorities' main qualifications for Secretary of Defense seems to have been his voting record in support of War Inc. History unmentioned on campus, what was news left out of the newspapers and off the television screen:
Cheney's Multi-Million Dollar Revolving Door
News: As Bush Sr.'s secretary of defense, Dick Cheney steered millions of dollars in government business to a private military contractor -- whose parent company just happened to give him a high-paying job after he left the government.
By Robert Bryce
Mother Jones
August 2, 2000
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In 1992, the Pentagon, then under Cheney's direction, paid Texas-based Brown & Root Services $3.9 million to produce a classified report detailing how private companies -- like itself -- could help provide logistics for American troops in potential war zones around the world. BRS specializes in such work; from 1962 to 1972, for instance, the company worked in the former South Vietnam building roads, landing strips, harbors, and military bases. Later in 1992, the Pentagon gave the company an additional $5 million to update its report. That same year, BRS won a massive, five-year logistics contract from the US Army Corps of Engineers to work alongside American GIs in places like Zaire, Haiti, Somalia, Kosovo, the Balkans, and Saudi Arabia.
After Bill Clinton's election cost Cheney his government job, he wound up in 1995 as CEO of Halliburton Company, the Dallas-based oil services giant -- which just happens to own Brown & Root Services. Since then, Cheney has collected more than $10 million in salary and stock payments from the company. In addition, he is currently the company's largest individual shareholder, holding stock and options worth another $40 million. Those holdings have undoubtedly been made more valuable by the ever-more lucrative contracts BRS continues to score with the Pentagon.
Between 1992 and 1999, the Pentagon paid BRS more than $1.2 billion for its work in trouble spots around the globe. In May of 1999, the US Army Corps of Engineers re-enlisted the company's help in the Balkans, giving it a new five-year contract worth $731 million.
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http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/08/cheney.html
If SecDef Cheney wanted to see how many nukes it took to take out a Division of Republican Guards, it was with Poppy's OK. And you know they were going to make big bucks off the deal.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)erronis
(15,303 posts)Cheney's slimy tendrils extend into many of the largest US contractors. You can cut off one or twenty and more will appear.
A Democracy for the In Crowd.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Ideas like "Justice," "Liberty" and "Democracy" may be missing from humanity's thoughts in the future if we don't wake the heck up now.
Time-Tested Weapons for U.S. Global Power
By Alfred McCoy
Tomgram, Jan. 19, 2014
For more than six months, Edward Snowdens revelations about the National Security Agency (NSA) have been pouring out from the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Guardian, Germanys Der Spiegel, and Brazils O Globo, among other places. Yet no one has pointed out the combination of factors that made the NSAs expanding programs to monitor the world seem like such a slam-dunk development in Washington. The answer is remarkably simple. For an imperial power losing its economic grip on the planet and heading into more austere times, the NSAs latest technological breakthroughs look like a bargain basement deal when it comes to projecting power and keeping subordinate allies in line -- like, in fact, the steal of the century. Even when disaster turned out to be attached to them, the NSAs surveillance programs have come with such a discounted price tag that no Washington elite was going to reject them.
For well over a century, from the pacification of the Philippines in 1898 to trade negotiations with the European Union today, surveillance and its kissing cousins, scandal and scurrilous information, have been key weapons in Washingtons search for global dominion. Not surprisingly, in a post-9/11 bipartisan exercise of executive power, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have presided over building the NSA step by secret step into a digital panopticon designed to monitor the communications of every American and foreign leaders worldwide.
What exactly was the aim of such an unprecedented program of massive domestic and planetary spying, which clearly carried the risk of controversy at home and abroad? Here, an awareness of the more than century-long history of U.S. surveillance can guide us through the billions of bytes swept up by the NSA to the strategic significance of such a program for the planets last superpower. What the past reveals is a long-term relationship between American state surveillance and political scandal that helps illuminate the unacknowledged reason why the NSA monitors Americas closest allies.
[font color="green"]Not only does such surveillance help gain intelligence advantageous to U.S. diplomacy, trade relations, and war-making, but it also scoops up intimate information that can provide leverage -- akin to blackmail -- in sensitive global dealings and negotiations of every sort. The NSAs global panopticon thus fulfills an ancient dream of empire. With a few computer key strokes, the agency has solved the problem that has bedeviled world powers since at least the time of Caesar Augustus: how to control unruly local leaders, who are the foundation for imperial rule, by ferreting out crucial, often scurrilous, information to make them more malleable.[/font color]
A Cost-Savings Bonanza With a Downside
Once upon a time, such surveillance was both expensive and labor intensive. Today, however, unlike the U.S. Armys shoe-leather surveillance during World War I or the FBIs break-ins and phone bugs in the Cold War years, the NSA can monitor the entire world and its leaders with only 100-plus probes into the Internets fiber optic cables.
This new technology is both omniscient and omnipresent beyond anything those lacking top-secret clearance could have imagined before the Edward Snowden revelations began. Not only is it unimaginably pervasive, but NSA surveillance is also a particularly cost-effective strategy compared to just about any other form of global power projection. And better yet, it fulfills the greatest imperial dream of all: to be omniscient not just for a few islands, as in the Philippines a century ago, or a couple of countries, as in the Cold War era, but on a truly global scale.
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http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175795/tomgram%3A_alfred_mccoy,_it's_about_blackmail,_not_national_security/
Why does this matter, when my house is about to get foreclosed because my job got offshored? It's tied in, when Wall Street and War Inc. are where the really Big Bucks go to get made. For We the People are the ones who ALWAYS get "the haircut."
Sometimes a fortune rests on a mere scrap of information, like in a "Fistful of Dollars."
CIA moonlights in corporate world
In the midst of two wars and the fight against Al Qaeda, the CIA is offering operatives a chance to peddle their expertise to private companies on the side a policy that gives financial firms and hedge funds access to the nations top-level intelligence talent, POLITICO has learned.
In one case, these active-duty officers moonlighted at a hedge-fund consulting firm that wanted to tap their expertise in deception detection, the highly specialized art of telling when executives may be lying based on clues in a conversation.
The never-before-revealed policy comes to light as the CIA and other intelligence agencies are once again under fire for failing to connect the dots, this time in the Christmas Day bombing plot on Northwest Flight 253.
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But the close ties between active-duty and retired CIA officers at one consulting company show the degree to which CIA-style intelligence gathering techniques have been employed by hedge funds and financial institutions in the global economy.
The firm is called Business Intelligence Advisors, and it is based in Boston. BIA was founded and is staffed by a number of retired CIA officers, and it specializes in the arcane field of deception detection. BIAs clients have included Goldman Sachs and the enormous hedge fund SAC Capital Advisors, according to spokesmen for both firms.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/32290.html#ixzz0eIFPhHBh
Then there's the signature tradition of playing both sides off the middle, like selling rifles to both the Allies and the Central Powers during World War I, or the bounty hunters in "For a Few Dollars More" getting one inside to work out.
Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'
By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph
A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.
Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.
The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.
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Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html
Then, there's Booz Allen, NSA's go-to private spyhaus, vacuums and filters the right stuff for Carlyle Group, a buy-partisan business which always seems to know where and what to bomb and make a buck, but the lines between sides turned out be fuzzy and amorphous nebula-like -- like in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly."
The Knights of the Revolving Door
When War is Swell: the Carlyle Group and the Middle East at War
by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
CounterPunch, Weekend Edition September 6-8, 2013
Paris.
A couple of weeks ago, in a dress rehearsal for her next presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton, the doyenne of humanitarian interventionism, made a pit-stop at the Carlyle Group to brief former luminaries of the imperial war rooms about her shoot-first-dont-ask-questions foreign policy.
For those of you who have put the playbill of the Bush administration into a time capsule and buried it beneath the compost bin, the Carlyle Group is essentially a hedge fund for war-making and high tech espionage. They are the people who brought you the Iraq war and all those intrusive niceties of Homeland Security. Call them the Knights of the Revolving Door, many of Carlyles executives and investors having spent decades in the Pentagon, the CIA or the State Department, before cashing in for more lucrative careers as war profiteers. They are now licking their chops at the prospect for an all-out war against Syria, no doubt hoping that the conflagration will soon spread to Lebanon, Jordan and, the big prize, Iran.
For a refresher course on the sprawling tentacles of the Carlyle Group, heres an essay that first appeared in CounterPunchs print edition in 2004. Sadly, not much has changed in the intervening years, except these feted souls have gotten much, much richer. JSC
Across all fronts, Bushs war deteriorates with stunning rapidity. The death count of American soldiers killed in Iraq will soon top 1000, with no end in sight. The members of the handpicked Iraqi Governor Council are being knocked off one after another. Once loyal Shia clerics, like Ayatollah Sistani, are now telling the administration to pull out or face a nationalist insurgency. The trail of culpability for the abuse, torture and murder of Iraqi detainees seems to lead inexorably into the office of Donald Rumsfeld. The war for Iraqi oil has ended up driving the price of crude oil through the roof. Even Kurdish leaders, brutalized by the Baathists for decades, are now saying Iraq was a safer place under their nemesis Saddam Hussein. Like Medea whacking her own kids, the US turned on its own creation, Ahmed Chalabi, raiding his Baghdad compound and fingering him as an agent of the ayatollahs of Iran. And on and on it goes.
Still not all of the presidents men are in a despairing mood. Amid the wreckage, there remain opportunities for profit and plunder. Halliburton and Bechtels triumphs in Iraq have been chewed over for months. Less well chronicled is the profiteering of the Carlyle Group, a company with ties that extend directly into the Oval Office itself.
Even Pappy Bush stands in line to profit handsomely from his sons war making. The former president is on retainer with the Carlyle Group, the largest privately held defense contractor in the nation. Carlyle is run by Frank Carlucci, who served as the National Security advisor and Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Carlucci has his own embeds in the current Bush administration. At Princeton, his college roommate was Donald Rumsfeld. Theyve remained close friends and business associates ever since. When you have friends like this, you dont need to hire lobbyists..
Bush Sr. serves as a kind of global emissary for Carlyle. The ex-president doesnt negotiate arms deals; he simply opens the door for them, a kind of high level meet-and-greet. His special area of influence is the Middle East, primarily Saudi Arabia, where the Bush family has extensive business and political ties. According to an account in the Washington Post, Bush Sr. earns around $500,000 for each speech he makes on Carlyles behalf.
One of the Saudi investors lured to Carlyle by Bush was the BinLaden Group, the construction conglomerate owned by the family of Osama bin Laden. According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Bush convinced Shafiq Bin Laden, Osamas half brother, to sink $2 million of BinLaden Group money into Carlyles accounts. In a pr move, the Carlyle group cut its ties to the BinLaden Group in October 2001.
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/06/when-war-is-swell-the-carlyle-group-and-the-middle-east-at-war/
Sorry to cut and paste, but the subject needs mention. The reality is that underneath what shows for public navigators is one enormous iceberg made from blood-red ice, invisible to the proles and serfs who are doing their best to keep afloat in a frozen sea of austerity, endless war and debt servitude in what are, by far, the wealthiest times in human history.
Thank you for grokking the situation, erronis. It is the Hydra. The planet's people are going on a ride that's not of our choosing or making. It's way past time someone asked the scary driver to pull over before the bus flies off the cliff. And as we have to record it all for posterity if there is one's sake, we find that the old iPhone's memory chip is about full.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)thought of, too.
I miss him.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)all see the true republican's color!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)But if he was trying to demonstrate how W was a decisive and forceful leader, it was an epic fail.
All its doing is confirming the suspicions a lot of people have had, namely, that his idiot son was a figurehead who was shoved into the presidency so that smarter, nastier people could practice their warped worldview on the international stage.
Dont blame him, says daddy, he was merely an unwitting dupe.
global1
(25,253 posts)I sure the motive of this book is - Look people your lucky - my son's administration could have even done worse.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)His presidency was a failure, his one son was in the S&L debacle, his other son had a disastrous presidency, and his "smart" son's campaign for president is flailing around and faltering.
I think he's always yearned for the kind of "Camelot" glamour and grandeur that the Kennedy name used to have (and still has to a certain extent).
I'm reminded of that old SNL skit where Aykroyd-as-Nixon during Watergate is resentfully ranting at a portrait of JFK about how much Kennedy is still revered even though he was "having sex with women -- the president, within these very walls! That never happened when Dick Nixon was in the White House."
wordpix
(18,652 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Shit-for-Brains could have been pointed in any direction by his "advisors".
I'm glad it didn't turn out entirely the way they wanted it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)While a lot, if not most, enjoy their big slice of the MIC pie, they have enough knowledge to know what is at stake.
SANE OFFICERS OPPOSE CHENEY
Commander Opposed "Surge," Called Petraeus a Suck-Up
by Joe Conason
Albion Monitor, Nov. 15, 2007
The Pentagon has launched a preventive strike against a target that military chiefs presumably regard as one of the most active current threats to U.S. and world security -- namely, the office of the vice president of the United States. Thrusting back hard against Vice President Dick Cheney's warmongering, the head of U.S. forces in the Mideast declared that an attack on Iran "is not in the offing," and more or less urged the vice president and his political allies to shut up.
In a front-page interview published on Nov. 12 by the Financial Times, Admiral William Fallon, who heads the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), spoke in diplomatic tones, as top military officers usually tend to do when they make strong political statements. Yet there was no mistaking the admiral's message. While Iran certainly poses a "challenge," he said, U.S. policymakers must engage Tehran to encourage changes in the regime's behavior. But the Iranians won't "come to their senses" while under threat of bombardment, invasion or worse.
"None of this is helped by the stories that just keep going around and around and around that any day now there will be another war, which is just not where we want to go," he said with a degree of exasperation. "It seems to me that we don't need more problems. It astounds me that so many pundits and others are spending so much time yakking about this topic [of war against Iran]."
Most of that bellicose speculation can be traced back to vice presidential circles, including the neo-conservative ideologues (or as the admiral put it, the "pundits" , who popularized the notions that Iran is an imminent threat to the United States, Israel and the world and that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the next Hitler. Those themes certainly have a familiar ring; the last imminent threat was Iraq, and the last next Hitler was Saddam Hussein. Not content with the great success of their Mesopotamian misadventure, the same people have been urging action against Iran.
Admiral Fallon's remarks follow in the wake of recent statements by both President George W. Bush and Vice President Cheney. Not long ago, the president blurted a strange warning that if other nations wish to avert "World War III," then they had best ensure that Iran never obtains "the knowledge" to construct nuclear weapons.
"We will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon," growled the vice president, muttering about the "serious consequences" that the Iranians would suffer. Since nobody believes that Tehran will come close to acquiring a nuclear weapon before the Bush administration leaves office, the ominous comments were taken as signals that the White House is contemplating preemptive action. Those signals have emanated for years from the office of the vice president and those associated with him.
More important, the nation's military leaders seem determined to block any rush to war, no matter what the vice president may desire. The Joint Chiefs of Staff have reportedly expressed strong opposition to any military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, and little enthusiasm for even limited action against Iranian forces. Their reluctance stems from tactical concerns about the impact of conflict with Iran on U.S. forces in Iraq, and strategic worries over waging wars in three Muslim nations in the region simultaneously.
For now, the influence of sane and sensible officers appears to be ascending. Only a few days before Admiral Fallon spoke out, an Associated Press dispatch noted that American officials are quietly reducing our force profile in the Gulf region -- for instance, by withdrawing an aircraft carrier that was sent earlier this year to emphasize the American regional security commitment.
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http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0711a/copyright/jc-cheneyopposed.html
Even more today. Thank goodness they're not all cut from the same cough cloth.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)We're still fighting Cheney's wars and Halliburton is still profiting from murder in America's name.
Cheney won and we are still doing his bidding.
harun
(11,348 posts)They are still calling the shots and will be for some time.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)On ISIS.
So yes, I think the world and all states should destroy their nuclear arsenals, because as long as they exist, someone somewhere will try to find a way or place to use them. Even for relatively trivial reasons, or for problems with solutions as long as your arm with nuclear weapons being very LAST on the list of those likely to work.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)me. There are a lot of them. Everywhere. And absolutely none believe that, on this topic, they are the very substance of evil.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)They are under your bed. I promise you.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)Even some people in my own family.
Now that I'm older and fully understand the ramifications of what they were saying, it makes me want to
Octafish
(55,745 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Your problem is you insist on looking backwards, not forwards.
peace13
(11,076 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)with the codes and not that other war criminal, GW Bush. I cannot believe even they would have let * have them.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Missing Nukes: Treason of the Highest Order
By Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya
Global Research, October 29, 2007
According to a wide range of reports, several nuclear bombs were lost for 36 hours after taking off August 29/30, 2007 on a cross-country journey across the U.S., from U.S.A.F Base Minot in North Dakota to U.S.A.F. Base Barksdale in Louisiana. [1] Reportedly, in total there were six W80-1 nuclear warheads armed on AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles (ACMs) that were lost. [2] The story was first reported by the Military Times, after military servicemen leaked the story.
It is also worth noting that on August 27, 2007, just days before the lost nukes incident, three B-52 Bombers were performing special missions under the direct authorization of General Moseley, the Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force. [3] The exercise was reported as being an aerial information and image gathering mission. The base at Minot is also home of the 91st Space Wings, a unit under the command of Air Force Space Command (AFSPC).
According to official reports, the U.S. Air Force pilots did not know that they were carrying weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). Once in Louisiana, they also left the nuclear weapons unsecured on the runway for several hours. [4]
U.S. Air Force Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, Plans, and Requirements, Major-General Richard Y. Newton III commented on the incident, saying there was an unprecedented series of procedural errors, which revealed an erosion of adherence to weapons-handling standards [5]
These statements are misleading. The lax security was not the result of procedural negligence within the U.S. Air Force, but rather the consequence of a deliberate tampering of these procedures.
If a soldier, marine, airman, or sailor were even to be issued a rifle and rifle magazine weaponry of a far lesser significance, danger, and cost there is a strict signing and accountability process that involves a chain of command and paperwork. This is part of the set of military checks and balances used by all the services within the U.S. Armed Forces.
Military servicemen qualified to speak on the subject will confirm that there is a stringent nuclear weapons handling procedure. There is a rigorous, almost inflexible, chain of command in regards to the handling of nuclear weapons and not just any soldier, sailor, airman, or marine is allowed to handle nuclear weapons. Only servicemen specialized in specific handling and loading procedures, are perm certified to handle, access and load nuclear warheads.
Every service personnel that moves or even touches these weapons must sign a tracking paper and has total accountability for their movement. There is good reason for the paperwork behind moving these weapons. The military officers that order the movement of nuclear weapons, including base commanders, must also fill out paper forms.
In other words, unauthorized removal of nuclear weapons would be virtually impossible to accomplish unless the chain of command were bypassed, involving, in this case, the deliberate tampering of the paperwork and tracking procedures.
The strategic bombers that carried the nuclear weapons also could not fly with their loaded nuclear weaponry without the authorization of senior military officials and the base commander. The go-ahead authorization of senior military officials must be transmitted to the servicemen that upload the nuclear weapons. Without this authorization no flights can take place.
In the case of the missing nukes, orders were given and flight permission was granted. Once again, any competent and eligible U.S. Air Force member can certify that this is the standard procedure.
There are two important questions to be answered in relation to the lost nukes incident:
[font color="green"]1. Who gave the order to arm the W80-1 thermonuclear warheads on the AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missiles (ACMs)? At what level in the military hierarchy did this order originate? How was the order transmitted down the command chain?
2. If this was not a procedural error, what was the underlying military-political objective sought by those who gave the orders?[/font color]
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/missing-nukes-treason-of-the-highest-order/7158
Gee whiz. That story dropped off the media radar faster than the names ahead of Cheney on the MEDICARE heart transplant waiting list.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)with a confederate flag sticker on her bumper. She also had a sticker that said "Nuke their ass, and take their gas" on it. When I pointed out the obvious here on DU that nobody was then going to go into the radioactive wasteland to get the '"gas", somebody here on DU responded with something like, "obviously, they would send the illegal immigrants to do it."
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Seems like taking other peoples' property is a most profitable industry. Take Barrick Gold, one of Poppy Bush's favorite charities, and what they did to The Guardian and Greg Palast for pointing it out.
Their crime? Telling the truth.
Poppy Strikes Gold
Sunday, April 27, 2008
Originally Posted July 9, 2003
By Greg Palast
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And while the Bush family steadfastly believes that ex-felons should not have the right to vote for president, they have no objection to ex-cons putting presidents on their payroll. In 1996, despite pleas by U.S. church leaders, Poppy Bush gave several speeches (he charges $100,000 per talk) sponsored by organizations run by Rev. Sun Myung Moon, cult leader, tax cheatand formerly the guest of the U.S. federal prison system. Some of the loot for the Republican effort in the 19972000 election cycles came from an outfit called Barrick Corporation.
The sum, while over $100,000, is comparatively small change for the GOP, yet it seemed quite a gesture for a corporation based in Canada. Technically, the funds came from those associated with the Canadian's U.S. unit, Barrick Gold Strike.
They could well afford it. [font color="green"]In the final days of the Bush (Senior) administration, the Interior Department made an extraordinary but little noticed change in procedures under the 1872 Mining Law, the gold rushera act that permitted those whiskered small-time prospectors with their tin pans and mules to stake claims on their tiny plots. The department initiated an expedited procedure for mining companies that allowed Barrick to swiftly lay claim to the largest gold find in America. In the terminology of the law, Barrick could "perfect its patent" on the estimated $10 billion in orefor which Barrick paid the U.S. Treasury a little under $10,000. Eureka![/font color]
Barrick, of course, had to put up cash for the initial property rights and the cost of digging out the booty (and the cost of donations, in smaller amounts, to support Nevada's Democratic senator, Harry Reid). Still, the shift in rules paid off big time: According to experts at the Mineral Policy Center of Washington, DC, Barrick savedand the U.S. taxpayer losta cool billion or so. Upon taking office, Bill Clinton's new interior secretary, Bruce Babbitt, called Barrick's claim the "biggest gold heist since the days of Butch Cassidy." Nevertheless, because the company followed the fast-track process laid out for them under Bush, this corporate Goldfinger had Babbitt by the legal nuggets. Clinton had no choice but to give them the gold mine while the public got the shaft.
Barrick says it had no contact whatsoever with the president at the time of the rules change.(1) There was always a place in Barrick's heart for the older Bushand a place on its payroll. In 1995, Barrick hired the former president as Honorary Senior Advisor to the Toronto company's International Advisory Board. Bush joined at the suggestion of former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney, who, like Bush, had been ignominiously booted from office. I was a bit surprised that the president had signed on. When Bush was voted out of the White House, he vowed never to lobby or join a corporate board. The chairman of Barrick openly boasts that granting the title "Senior Advisor" was a sly maneuver to help Bush tiptoe around this promise.
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http://www.gregpalast.com/poppy-strikes-gold/
Wow. So his flock of supporters in the media and elsewhere wanted it known: George Herbert Walker Bush did do something nice when he was President. It just happened to be that it was for a rich, powerful corporation.
The story continues, in which Mr. Palast details how said gold mining company employed fascist tactics to take over the mine, part of which involved bulldozing the miners homes and mines, some with the miners still inside. Let that, uh, sink in. For his trouble in reporting the story, Barrick threatened to sue.
The Truth Buried Alive
By Greg Palast, From The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Penguin/Plume, 2003)
Source: UTNE Reader
April 2003 Issue
EXCERPT...
Bad news. In July 2001, in the middle of trying to get out the word of the theft of the election in Florida, [font color="red"]I was about to become the guinea pig, the test case, for an attempt by a multinational corporation to suppress free speech in the USA using British libel law. I have a U.S.-based Web site for Americans who cant otherwise read my columns or view my BBC television reports. The gold-mining company held my English newspaper liable for aggravated damages for my publishing the story in the USA. If I did not pull the Bush-Barrick story off my U.S. Web site, my paper would face a ruinously costly fight.(1)[/font color]
Panicked, the Guardian legal department begged me to delete not just the English versions of the story but also my Spanish translation, printed in Bolivia. (Caramba!)
The Goldfingers didnt stop there. [font color="green"]Barricks lawyers told our papers that I personally would be sued in the United Kingdom over Web publications of my story in America, because the Web could be accessed in Britain. The success of this legal strategy would effectively annul the U.S. Bill of Rights.[/font color] Speak freely in the USA, but if your words are carried on a U.S. Web site, you may be sued in Britain. The Declaration of Independence would be null and void, at least for libel law. Suddenly, instead of the Internet becoming a means of spreading press freedom, the means to break through censorship, it would become the electronic highway for delivering repression.
And repression was winning. InterPress Services (IPS) of Washington, DC, sent a reporter to Tanzania with Lissu. They received a note from Barrick that said if the wire service ran a story that repeated the allegations, the company would sue. IPS did not run the story.
I was worried about Lissu. On July 19, 2001, a group of Tanzanian police interest lawyers wrote the nations president asking for an investigationinstead, Lissus law partner in Dar es Salaam was arrested. The police were hunting for Lissu. They broke into his home and office and turned them upside down looking for the names of Lissus sources, his whereabouts and the evidence he gathered on the mine site clearance. This was more than a legal skirmish. Over the next months, demonstrations by vicims families were broken up by police thugs. A member of Parliament joining protesters was beaten and hospitalized. I had to raise cash quick to get Lissu out, and with him, his copies of police files with more evidence of the killings. I called Maude Barlow, the Ralph Nader of Canada, head of the Council of Canadians. Without hesitation, she teamed up with Friends of the Earth in Holland, raised funds and prepared a press conferenceand in August tipped the story to the Globe & Mail, Canadas national paper.
CONTINUED...
http://www.mapcruzin.com/palast-2.htm
Greg Palast told the truth, including the bits about the buried alive gold miners, as it happens. So, the Big Corporation sued and sued and sued. With their deep pockets, they can buy justice, judges, prime ministers, presidents and whoever and whatever else they need to turn a buck.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)and then US should turn them upside down and whatever's in their pockets goes to the Treasury
inanna
(3,547 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Paraphrasing: Moore wrote the other Bushes he had met came across as amiable, if ignorant, but Jeb had a scary shark eye stare that left Moore feeling frightened, as if had been in the presence of great evil.
Jeb now compares Trump to Moore, as if guilt by association with Moore was a bad thing.
Perhaps what people remember depends in part on what they already know.
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)I worried they wouldn't.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)What was most important to them remains today. War.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)Thank you for this. It is hugely important.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)For war and all it would bring them, Cheney and his BFEE cronies thought it would be OK to toss Valerie Plame and the nation's entire CIA counternuclearproliferation efforts to the wolves.
Cheney told Powell that he was seriously considering the nuclear possibility, but that he wanted to be thorough and was curious about what it would entail. The team Powell assembled concjuded that a large number of small, tactical nuclear weapons would be necessary just to damage a single division. Powell showed the results to Cheney and then destroyed them. When Powell commanded the 5th Corps in Germany in the 1980s, he formed great reservations over the practicality of tactical nuclear weapons. After seeing the results of this study he concluded, "If I had had any doubts before about the practicality of nukes on the field of battle, this report clinched them."
-- Encyclopedia of the Persian Gulf War, Richard Alan Schwartz, p. 111.
https://books.google.com/books?id=CIiACgAAQBAJ&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false
Music for thinking about that...
...and thanking the cherry red nose of WC Fields himself for being here to think about it.
1norcal
(55 posts)We count on your bush updates...Thanks much.
spanone
(135,844 posts)that pic says it all.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)We're still fighting his wars and Halliburton is still profiting from the murders.
We haven't stopped him yet.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)A complete waste of all the Earth's resources.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)because FDR/Truman got to drop the bomb, and he had to find sufficient justification and couldn't somehow.
I was also suspicious of that huge explosion in the Syrian desert. Dit they ever really admit what that was?
Reter
(2,188 posts)Any link?
peace13
(11,076 posts)...after five armed warheads traveled across the U.S. care of the US Airforce. They never said what happened to the bomb. Go figure.
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)The cancer rate and birth defect rate in Fallujah ten years after operation phantom is higher than it was after we dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - and we used good ol' conventional munitions in Fallujah in 2004.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)tanyev
(42,567 posts)- See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/born-to-run/#sthash.q6rU2gni.dpuf
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)in a democratic republic are always are very bad idea.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)GHWB knew Cheney was ordering studies on nuking Iraq while Cheney was GHWB's defense secretary...and GHWB didn't fire Cheney for doing this the second he heard about it? According to Gerald Ford's theory that you can impeach a ham sandwich for the act of being a ham sandwich, if Congress knew Cheney was studying nuking Iraq and didn't remove both Cheney and GHWB, the Congress we had at the time is just as culpable for the rise of our own Black Phoenix as anyone named Bush.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)For a couple of weeks back then during the build-up to war there were a couple of remarks that floated out about how a nuclear strike shouldn't be ruled out. It was like a test balloon.
There didn't seem to be much of any response to it or any discussion of it, at the time, and then it was never said again.
bananas
(27,509 posts)I'll try to find some links later.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)So I may have missed it. But I expected a huge outcry!
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Bad people wanting bad things led my poor boy astray.
My boy was manipulated and lied to by some really, really bad people! Sure, he was president and bears that responsibility, but they lied to him! They used him! He would have never done anything like that on his own! My poor brand name..er..I mean boy tarnished by the evil ways of other men.
Yeah, OK. Whatever.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)... but he already had a belly full of the little puppies he gorged on.
has there ever been a more evil person one heartbeat away from the presidency?
Does Darth Cheney actually have a human heart?
malaise
(269,054 posts)They should all be in the Hague or an American Federal prison -this planet will not see peace until these criminals are punished,
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Just rush in as a pre-emptive neocon and use them yourself! For every elite Republican Guard taken out there would have been thousands of civilian casualties, but such is the case with "collateral damage".
2naSalit
(86,647 posts)cynzke
(1,254 posts)He could get a second chance to nuke someplace if Jeb or Ben were elected.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I notice the swarm avoiding this thread, I guess none of their usual bullshit would fit the story.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Cyrano
(15,041 posts)walk away free.
And it will happen again, and again, and again, until some other country becomes more powerful than us, calls out our war criminals for what they are and ships them off the The Hague to stand trial.
It will never happen within our own government. The reason Obams didn't go after Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, et al, is because he knew that he'd be next on the list whenever Republicans regained the White House. They would go after him for "no birth certificate," or for his executive orders, or for anything else they could just make up and get most people to believe.
And if justice ever comes about, let's not forget Henry Kissinger who is guilty of the murder of tens of thousands of Americans, Vietnamese, and Cambodians.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)but who was appointed to be president by the (small cap u.s. corrupt supreme court).
Oh, I get it, when you get appointed, anyone can be president and you can make unilateral decisions to explode a nuclear device without consulting Congress.
Gee, just like now, I am still waiting for the authorization vote in the House on Syria, that hasn't been taken in who knows when, going on two years now and counting, I think, because they don't want to be on the "record" because there spineless hypocrites.
Hey, Ayn Rand Ryan are you going to bring this vote up------------------- or are you going to cut more social programs to pay for something that hasn't been voted on, your another piece of work
And it has cost the taxpayers how much now, around 20+ million a day in Syria, just on aircraft and cruise missile and drones, not including ships, and personnel.
And then finally this war criminal walks around going fishing and visiting and having a nice criminal chats spewing his psychopathic wisdow on the set(s) of Face the Nation to sell a book, Meet the Press to continue to sell a book, and whatever other so called MSM right wing broadcast with his condescending voice of hypocrisy
Hey war pig----------------do you know this name;
Marine 1st Lt. Therrell Shane Childers
Hey, war pig do you know this name:
Army Specialist David Hickman
This were the two men, who were the first American and the last American man to die based on your lie and your criminal team lie
Go to hell
Honk----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
Demeter
(85,373 posts)He's probably too old now, but it might have been a good lesson to other would-be tinpot dictators.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Not so fast. Too many Cheneys in the world.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/defence-and-security-blog/2015/jun/02/nuclear-disarmament-forget-it
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)so his prized son gets to be president.
That being said cheney, rummy, wolfie, connie, w and all other neo-cons are war criminals and deserve no less than prosecution and conviction as such.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)I don't doubt he's telling the truth about Cheney - but I do agree it's about protecting the Bush brand.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)to radiation, etc? Did he even give a damn?
I'll rejoice when I hear the news about a body bag being zipped around his carcass.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Octafish
I does not suprise my a second that Dick Cheney was considering using Nuclear weapons against Iraq.... It was just pure luck US was not getting itself into a nuclear war over Iraq - with the consequences it could have for the rest of the world... Even if the damage from even a small low yield nuclear weapons would have been devastating for Iraq - and for Iran if a nuclear weapon was to be used against that country...
I do remember - how the "pro-war" crowd was going all over them self, with the dream about nuking the iraqi government and Iraq as a country - and how they tried to tell the tale about it would not be as problematic as one who was against the war meant it to be - they stated in full seriousness that a low yield nuclear weapons against Iraqi bunkers - or against iranian underground enrichment facilities could be justified - and that most of the damage would be held underground - aka radioactive waste from the blast and so one... And I do remember, when confronted - how they told that a modern nuclear bomb, was nothing like the Hiroshima bomb - or the nuclear weapons we got to fear under most of the cold war - this was safe, low-yield weapons who could be used - against targets without much danger outside of the blast-zone.. It was nothing to worry about. And anyway - what could other countries do - when the nuclear blast was over, other than to protest in the UN... It is not like they would risk a war with US over the use of nuclear weapons exchange with Iraq or Iran....
Somehow - I doubt it would be as easy as US under the reign of Dick Cheney believed it to be - and thankfully - nuclear weapons was not used under his leadership... And as I suspected all along - Bush, the lesser was not in control or power at all...
It would have been terrifying if the US had used nuclear weapons against Iraqi facilities - or for that matter Iran ones - as it would show for the whole world how brutal the Bush administration really had become - and how easy it was for US to use nuclear weapons against a country who did not have nuclear weapons.. If anything - the use of even a low-yield nuclear weapons against Iraq or Iran, would have started a arms-race, against 20-30 nations, who all could have been in the "target zone"
Diclotican
lastlib
(23,248 posts)It burns me that he has not been packed off to The Hague for war crimes. This nation must NEVER again be led by such a creature.
Mr. Evil
(2,845 posts)the size of a jalapeno pepper. Once developed someone could then follow Dick(head) Cheney to his next doctor's appointment and tell him he needs a prostate exam and then it could be inserted far up his fat ass. Detonation could be initiated remotely so as to eliminate collateral damage. That would be a perfect fate for such a vile and evil man. The only trouble is how much would have to be paid to entice someone to be willing to get that close and intimate with Dick(head) Cheney's ass?
bananas
(27,509 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)I am never shocked by this psychopath's need to kill.
peace13
(11,076 posts)He smiles and drools at the white phosphorus he let loose. Killing and maiming men, women and children, leaving the next generation with deformities and devastation. Shooter, we will never forget what you did from an armchair, too afraid to go to war yourself. You did this and it was disgusting and inhuman! Thump, thump, thump goes the heart in your chest, one that belongs in a caring person.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)that, including their own troops.
adigal
(7,581 posts)I don't remember what put the brakes on this plan of their's though. My brain is going!
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)Not really all that surprised by this.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I am reading a book about people who have had near death experiences. One of the common themes is the life review. This is the whole life of the dying person flashing before his eyes, and the person can experience the pain and suffering of others that he's caused, as well as his own role relived. The life review can be very sad and anguishing or it can be a beautiful experience.
Cheney will have the anguish, pain and suffering. Too bad.
tzar paul
(50 posts)and most of the blue states!
prouddemfromaustin44
(52 posts)I can't believe he was never put behind bars for his vicious war crimes. Sick bastard. Just goes to show that no justice exists in this country...
Ducksworthy
(55 posts)He's still contemplating nuking somebody, everybody, who knows: As soon as he regains power.
IHateTheGOP
(1,059 posts)For war crimes, violations of international treaties, and violations of the US Constitution.
radhika
(1,008 posts)Their humanity means so little to the elites who dominate USA foreign policy that this was on the table. Seriously.
Millions of inhabitants of a nation that provably had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and posed no threat to the USA - would simply be exterminated because a sick-f*ck reptilian wanted to give full expression to his ugly soul in a bold 'gesture'. Not to mention the residents of adjacent nations who would suffer the same fate, but more slowly.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Sy's been banned from every US publication. His last article had to be published in London Review of Books and he's been quiet since. He reported on the "Rat Line" of weapons going into Syria after Gaddafi was taken down in Libya. CIA was running it and had something to do with Abassador Stevens.
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