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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:40 PM Nov 2015

Here's a List of 8 Discrepancies in Ben Carson's Yale Hoax Story

By Kevin Drum
Tue Nov. 10, 2015 10:50 AM EST

... Carson says the professor handed out the exam papers and picked them up. Bakal says it was a fake proctor ... Carson says the professor was a woman. That's unlikely since Yale had very few female instructors at the time, but it's possible. However, Bakal says "one of us" from the Record impersonated a proctor. Yale only began admitting women that year, and it's pretty unlikely that the Record would have sent over a freshman woman to impersonate a proctor ... Finally, and most importantly, Carson says the professor/proctor told him he was the most honest person in the course because he had stuck it out to the end. This is absolutely central to Carson's story. But that never happened. The Record proctor might have told him he was the most gullible person in the course, but that's about it ... At best, the hoax happened during Carson's freshman year in Psychology 10, and he then embellished it considerably in order to make it a proper testimonial ... At worst, he simply heard about the hoax and used it as the basis for a completely invented story in his book. I don't know which. But either way, the story in his book is substantially exaggerated in ways that really matter. This is not just nitpicking.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/heres-list-8-discrepancies-ben-carsons-yale-hoax-story

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Here's a List of 8 Discrepancies in Ben Carson's Yale Hoax Story (Original Post) struggle4progress Nov 2015 OP
Carson scores an "A" in gullibility! immoderate Nov 2015 #1
Josh Marshall sums it up nicely M.G. Nov 2015 #2
 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
1. Carson scores an "A" in gullibility!
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

He wants us to think he is easily duped.

Have I told you lately he's a wacko?

--imm

M.G.

(250 posts)
2. Josh Marshall sums it up nicely
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

"It now appears that the college humor magazine did more than print up the hoax announcement of a test retake. They actually sent a student to the lecture hall to impersonate a teaching assistant to administer a made up test. By the end, when only one or two students remained out of several who showed up (still not getting that it was a hoax apparently) the fake teaching assistant even gave out "a small cash prize." No one has been able to identify the fake teaching assistant or specifically attest to Carson being one of the last or last students still taken in by the joke. But if you step back you now have independent corroboration for a chain of events which - giving some allowance for exaggeration and imperfect memory - largely matches up with Carson's account.

The only problem of course is that the whole thing was a practical joke that the extremely earnest young Ben Carson not only fell for at the time but hasn't realized was a prank for the last 45 years. Even now Carson either doesn't seem to realize or won't cop to the fact that even if it was an innocent and honest mistake, what actually happened isn't remotely what he described. As with so many other anecdotes and examples, this latest incident reveals Carson as a sort of lifelong self-awareness Mr Magoo, with perhaps a dash of Chauncey Gardner, walking through life often with little awareness of what is going on around him but consistently interpreting things in the most self-glorifying and parablistic terms possible." Josh Marshall - Talking Points Memo

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