Kentucky demands a public hand count of every ballot that was cast on November 4th

[iamthebandfanman]

https://www.change.org/p/alison-lundergan-grimes-kentucky-demands-a-public-hand-count-of-every-ballot-that-was-cast-on-november-4th?recruiter=58642771&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-no_msg&fb_ref=Default

"We would like to ask Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes for a public hand count of every ballots that was cast on November 4th. Matt Bevin wants to dismantle the health care of thousands of Kentucky residents. The citizens of Kentucky have every reason to be skeptical of this election."

https://www.change.org/p/alison-lundergan-grimes-kentucky-demands-a-public-hand-count-of-every-ballot-that-was-cast-on-november-4th?recruiter=58642771&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-no_msg&fb_ref=Default

[LonePirate]

1. Does she have the legal authority to conduct such a recount?

That petition could very well be meaningless even if a million more Kentucky voters signed it.

[Trajan]

2. No ... It's a petition

I'm guessing you are against the recount ...

[LonePirate]

3. If there is no law that grants her the ability to perform the recount, that petition is meaningless.

I personally think recounts should be performed for every race in every election; but a recount may not be possible, let alone having it change the outcome of the race.

If 400K+ insurance cancellation letters don't make the uneducated, poor people in KY value their lives more than their hatred for Obama, then nothing will.

[msongs]

5. unlike the democratic party usa Inc at least these people are trying to get some change nt

[LonePirate]

7. No, they are not trying. They are pretending to enact change. The petition does nothing.

If they wanted change, they would be organizing rallies and protests in Frankfort. Or they would be collecting signatures for a ballot initiative (if such a process exists in KY).

Other than the occasional petition seeking a White House opinion on a topic, online petitions are largely a waste of time that attempts to make people feel good about doing something for 5 seconds from their chair or couch.

[horseshoecrab]

6. Lundergan-Grimes,

as Secretary of State, is the chief election official of the state of Kentucky, so I suspect she is the proper official to petition in this matter.

http://www.sos.ky.gov/elections/Pages/default.aspx

[LonePirate]

8. Yes, she is the right person; but without a law enabling her to conduct a recount, what can she do?

This petition is as bone-headed as the people who voted for Bevin. It accomplishes NOTHING.

[salib]

16. Perhaps there is a law that can be interpreted to give her that authority

However, in addition, petitions can be useful in many ways, depending upon the level of participation.

Simply because there is no law, does not mean that popular action, including petitions, are worthless or useless.

Of course, it is a good point to push those behind this to actually have an objective that would be a strong legal grounds for a recount, or at least a strong plan to force the issue legislatively that it is pathetic if there is no recourse, I.e., no way validate the results.

[tiptonic]

12. Smells

Smells like Carl Rove might be in Kentucky. Or maybe thats just a dead rat.

[iandhr]

11. You are exactly right

There has to be a law that grants her the authority to do so.


There are 50 states and there are 50 different sets of laws on if, when, and how recounts can take place.

[Kokonoe]

17. Accept maybe a hand recount may be valuable to Kentuckian lives.

The constitution grants everyone inalienable rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws to "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".

unless it goes to the supreme court

[libodem]

4. Good

[mhatrw]

9. Great, except there is no paper record of most of these ballots.

Damn touch screen black box voting machines.

[lame54]

10. This...

[Stargazer99]

13. I see people in Kentucky are getting smart.....

[Stevepol]

14. I don't care if it accomplishes nothing, at least they're trying.

I applaud them. The Dems for too long now have just been accepting these results, some of them completely bizarre. Alvin Greene, for example, the guy who filed to run in the Dem primary in SC. He was a complete unknown and didn't lift a finger to campaign, but amazingly he received over 60% of the vote even though the front-runner was well-known and as far as anybody knew well-liked. It soothed the favored Dem I'm sure to find out that those votes that were cast on paper (early voting, mail-ins,etc.) favored him by over 60% as well. So he felt good about that. The Democratic Party meeting held to discuss the primary, after hearing a number of computer experts say that it was almost certainly some sort of computer problem, decided it was just too much trouble to hold a second primary, perhaps using hand-counted paper ballots.

[Crabby Appleton]

15. The election was on the 3rd

so no votes were cast on the 4th