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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:30 PM Nov 2015

I have a feeling this Missouri Protest/resignation is going to go big nationwide.

Other campuses across the nation are probably going to say---hey, that shit works.

My hope is they begin protesting tuition fees.

BTW: Check out the Student President explain the reason for the protest.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/video/players/offsite/index.html?videoId=100000004026633

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I have a feeling this Missouri Protest/resignation is going to go big nationwide. (Original Post) trumad Nov 2015 OP
About time. Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #1
As soon as I saw the president of Mizzou resign, my first thought was "Hmmm...I wonder what the... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #2
I think some football team will try to strike until they get paid NobodyHere Nov 2015 #3
Power in Solidarity--nice to see students standing up and standing together fishwax Nov 2015 #4
I think it could too shenmue Nov 2015 #5
college football is all about $$ - start diddling with the $$ and action occurs nt msongs Nov 2015 #6
This. And those players are NOT paying tuition. hifiguy Nov 2015 #13
"Regular non-jock students do something like this" trumad Nov 2015 #14
If the football players, who are a massive generator of revenue hifiguy Nov 2015 #15
Really---I heard about it. trumad Nov 2015 #17
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy AND creative faith-based prophecy... all in one post. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #18
A student I talked with here called college football a plantation loyalsister Nov 2015 #7
Getting a lot of air on MSNBC... Wounded Bear Nov 2015 #8
Though even on DU, we're going to hear it's only because of the entitlement of football players LanternWaste Nov 2015 #9
Well they would be wrong. trumad Nov 2015 #10
There were more than a few prophetic posts about this subject made over the weekend LanternWaste Nov 2015 #11
Yeah---for instance ---this thread. trumad Nov 2015 #12
I was thinking (hoping) the same n/t deutsey Nov 2015 #16
I hope so! nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #19
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. About time.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

Check this,cancellation of Saturday's game would cost the School one million dollars,all about the money? To hell with the kids?

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
2. As soon as I saw the president of Mizzou resign, my first thought was "Hmmm...I wonder what the...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:48 PM
Nov 2015

...hashtag will be for the new movement."

Those students, and their football team, just showed what can happen if you stick together. And, they will, all across this country.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. This. And those players are NOT paying tuition.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:46 PM
Nov 2015

No way was the university gonna take a million-dollar hit for a cancelled football game.

Regular non-jock students do something like this and they are booted out of school so fast their heads would spin. Especially if they were protesting tuition rates.

This is all about keeping the money machine that is major college football running smoothly. And it will work only once.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
14. "Regular non-jock students do something like this"
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015
Do something like what? Not sure what you mean there?

You do realize that Regular non-jock students began this protests and the players and coaches joined in after.


<snip>
The move comes after incidents of bigotry and racial vandalism that scarred the Columbia campus, followed by weeks of protest, a hunger strike by grad student Jonathan Butler, as well as the announcement that faculty members would not be showing up for work.

<snip>
The protests of students and faculty members whose names the public does not know is what laid the groundwork for the players to showcase their courage. It’s like a stool: students, faculty, and athletes. When one leg on that stool isn’t there, this falls apart.
http://www.thenation.com/article/3-lessons-from-university-of-missouri-president-tim-wolfes-resignation/
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. If the football players, who are a massive generator of revenue
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

for the school, hadn't joined in not one peep would have been heard about this outside of MO and teh administration would have punished the students involved in one way or another.

And I repeat, any actions taken are solely the result of wanting to keep the football money-printing machine operating smoothly. Mizzou would have taken a million-dollar hit if a football game were canceled. That is one thing that would never be tolerated at a major football school.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
17. Really---I heard about it.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:00 PM
Nov 2015

You didn't hear about the kids hunger strike?

I agree that the football players were the tipping point---but guess who helped them tip---the student protesters.

How do you know that the administrators would have punished the students for these protests?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy AND creative faith-based prophecy... all in one post.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

Post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy AND some creative, faith-based prophecy... all in one short post.

(I'd pretend not to have heard about it prior to the athletic involvement if it mean I had to turn in my Trendy Skeptics handbook at the front office too...)

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. A student I talked with here called college football a plantation
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:04 PM
Nov 2015

An article in the Nation makes his case:


"That’s because the Missouri football players—like all big-time college football players—hold a deep social power. The student body is just 7 percent black, yet 58 of the school’s 84 scholarship football players are African-American. There is no football team without black labor. That means there aren’t million-dollar coaching salaries without black labor. There isn’t a nucleus of campus social life without black labor. There isn’t the weekly economic boon to Columbia, Missouri, bringing in millions in revenue to hotels, restaurants, and other assorted businesses without black labor. The power brokers of Columbia need these games to be played. Yet if the young black men and those willing to stand with them—and there are white teammates publicly standing with them—aren’t happy with the grind of unpaid labor on a campus openly hostile to black students, they can take it it all down, just by putting down their helmets, hanging up their spikes, and folding their arms."

http://www.thenation.com/article/black-mizzou-football-players-are-going-on-strike-over-campus-racism/


I've always been uncomfortable with a system that demands students risk their bodily function to get an education, but that puts it in a whole different perspective. He's right.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Though even on DU, we're going to hear it's only because of the entitlement of football players
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

Though even on DU, we're going to hear it's only because of the entitlement of football players, that it's merely a superficial response, or (insert absurd rationalization here to better minimize the full, and still ongoing effect).

Voices heard. An absolute good.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
10. Well they would be wrong.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:22 PM
Nov 2015

This protest was ongoing. The Black football players joined the protest and it certainly helped in a big way.

Not only that---their coaches joined as well.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. There were more than a few prophetic posts about this subject made over the weekend
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:27 PM
Nov 2015

Catching up on DU this morning, I see there were more than a few prophetic posts about this subject made over the weekend, minimizing the reasons and trivializing the results that have turned out to be gloriously inaccurate.

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