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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:10 AM Nov 2015

Teacher Fired Over Anti-Bullying Video




Published on Nov 8, 2015

A middle school teacher in Kansas showed his students an anti-bullying video. The short film depicted a world where homosexuality was normal but heterosexuality was discriminated against. The community protested the video being shown and the teacher has been dismissed. Ana Kasparian (The Point) and John Iadarola (Think Tank) hosts of The Young Turks discuss.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/freaked-out-conservative-parents-force-kansas-teacher-out-of-his-job-for-showing-students-anti-bullying-video/





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Teacher Fired Over Anti-Bullying Video (Original Post) marmar Nov 2015 OP
Teacher was unaware of the political climate in Kansas? n/t dixiegrrrrl Nov 2015 #1
What's that got to do with anything? dickthegrouch Nov 2015 #6
Very noble ryan_cats Nov 2015 #8
Sorry have to disagree Egnever Nov 2015 #11
The video most certainly does not... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #12
I dissagree Egnever Nov 2015 #14
Not sure that is the end of the video... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #15
So wait you havent even seen the whole video? Egnever Nov 2015 #16
Just watched the video--- trumad Nov 2015 #17
What a dumb question Egnever Nov 2015 #19
How old does she have to be that bullying can lead to suicide? trumad Nov 2015 #25
WTF? indeed... ljm2002 Nov 2015 #28
Teacher was too good for that school nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #2
That video is powerful catrose Nov 2015 #3
He was planning on retiring at the end of the school year... KansDem Nov 2015 #26
I hope being fired doesn't affect his retirement benefits eom catrose Nov 2015 #27
I don't believe he'll lose his retirement benefits KansDem Nov 2015 #29
Kill the messenger. lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #4
He tried, a fantastic effort and tremendous considering that states political climate. K&R Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #5
In order to get the point across, teens need to sympathize with the protagonist. Half-Century Man Nov 2015 #7
He taught. Iggo Nov 2015 #9
Yea not really surprising Egnever Nov 2015 #10
Why remove the suicide scene? trumad Nov 2015 #18
That's like saying that the movie Trainspotting encouraged heroine use. Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #20
Are either of those appropriate to show to young children without their parents permission? Egnever Nov 2015 #21
Stay on point. Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #23
Yes, that is EXACTLY the point he's making. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2015 #24
Bullies & bully culture will not be bullied! Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #13
Bullying is a family value in many if not most parts of America Fumesucker Nov 2015 #22

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
6. What's that got to do with anything?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:20 PM
Nov 2015

He did the right thing and was bullied for it by morans who haven't seen the video.
He's a hero and a martyr to the cause.
I yearn for the days when this kind of crap doesn't happen any more anywhere.
None of us is free until ALL of us are free.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
8. Very noble
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015
None of us is free until ALL of us are free.
Very noble sentiment.

What does the slave dream of?
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
11. Sorry have to disagree
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

The video suggests at the end that suicide is the answer and that unfortunately ruins the whole video. The message is a good one and the video is well done IMHO right up until the ending. Remove that ending and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Kansas has a lot to do with it also he likely would have gotten away with it in a more progressive state. Although with the ending of that video he might not.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
12. The video most certainly does not...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:49 PM
Nov 2015

..."suggest (...) that suicide is the answer". That is utter nonsense!

It DOES suggest that suicide is a possible RESULT of this kind of bullying.

I wonder why you felt the need to misrepresent the video like that. Or is that really the message you got? If so, that's... twisted.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
14. I dissagree
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:08 PM
Nov 2015

the girl in the video uses suicide to escape the bullying and that is the end of the video. The rest of the video did a good job of showing the pain the bullying caused there was no need for the suicide scene and in my opinion it leaves the impression it is an acceptable solution as that ends the video and the bullying in the video.

Your mileage may vary but I would be pissed if it was shown to my 11 year old with that ending without my permission.

I wouldn't want the guy fired over it but I would not be pleased.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
15. Not sure that is the end of the video...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:11 PM
Nov 2015

...since TYT only showed an excerpt. But still, if you actually think it promoted suicide as an "answer" then I think your views are twisted.

If you had just said it would concern you, as a parent, to see a simulated suicide, then sure I can understand that. But you are reading something into it that is just not there.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
16. So wait you havent even seen the whole video?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:22 PM
Nov 2015

WTF?

How can you even comment?

Watch it and get back to me...

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
17. Just watched the video---
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:34 PM
Nov 2015

You do know that Bully victims actually do commit suicide... you do know that right?

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
19. What a dumb question
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

It is a huge problem and not one that should be shown as a way to end bullying to young children.

The rest of the video is well done but the ending is not suitable for young children without parents permission.

You may think it's fine and that is certainly your prerogative but I don't and I completely understand parents complaining about it. If they showed that to my 11 year old without my permission I would be bent.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
28. WTF? indeed...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:44 PM
Nov 2015

...I commented on the video posted in the OP. Standard operating procedure on a discussion forum in my experience. For you to ask "How can you even comment?" is ridiculous.

TTFN

catrose

(5,068 posts)
3. That video is powerful
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:46 AM
Nov 2015

And upsetting. Which it should be. I hope the teacher finds a place worthy of him.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
26. He was planning on retiring at the end of the school year...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:43 PM
Nov 2015
According to Murphy, the school board will be meeting Nov. 9 and is expected to accept Leahy’s resignation. Murphy noted that Leahy has intended to retire following the conclusion of the school year.

Maybe a blessing in disguise! However, I'm sure he'd receive offers from more-enlightened school districts if he wanted to continue. I could see him retiring and going "part time" at a school that valued his keen insight and awareness.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
29. I don't believe he'll lose his retirement benefits
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:42 PM
Nov 2015

As a teacher, he's probably vested in a public retirement system that represents several schools, unlike a private system that can be meddled with by corporate executives. And he wasn't accused and convicted of a crime, which I believe could affect one's retirement benefits--but I'm not certain.

I would say that his retirement is secure. Perhaps a more knowledgeable DUer could weigh in on this topic.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
7. In order to get the point across, teens need to sympathize with the protagonist.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:47 PM
Nov 2015

The Teacher found a video that most Kansas teens can find common ground with the protagonist. In other words; something that teaches.
Kansas parents apparently aren't in favor of that.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
10. Yea not really surprising
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:39 PM
Nov 2015

First it's Kansas not the most receptive of climates for that video in the first place. Secondly the ending of the film seems to suggest suicide is the answer to bullying.

While I agree with the overall message I would not want my middle school kid to watch that mostly because of the ending.

I think firing is a bit harsh but I totally understand parents being upset over it's showing.

Remove the suicide scene at the end at I doubt I would have a problem with it but with that scene in I find it highly inappropriate for middle school kids.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
18. Why remove the suicide scene?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:35 PM
Nov 2015

It is a reality that bullied kids commit suicide. Why do you want to hide that fact?

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
20. That's like saying that the movie Trainspotting encouraged heroine use.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:50 PM
Nov 2015

Or Pulp Fiction told people they should kill other people.

If one watches that movie and doesn't feel horrible that people kill themselves over this (which they do), they one is either a robot or just doesn't get things very easily.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. Bullying is a family value in many if not most parts of America
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:16 PM
Nov 2015

In many schools it's not just winked at, it's encouraged.

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