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Published on Nov 8, 2015
A middle school teacher in Kansas showed his students an anti-bullying video. The short film depicted a world where homosexuality was normal but heterosexuality was discriminated against. The community protested the video being shown and the teacher has been dismissed. Ana Kasparian (The Point) and John Iadarola (Think Tank) hosts of The Young Turks discuss.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/freaked-out-conservative-parents-force-kansas-teacher-out-of-his-job-for-showing-students-anti-bullying-video/
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,174 posts)He did the right thing and was bullied for it by morans who haven't seen the video.
He's a hero and a martyr to the cause.
I yearn for the days when this kind of crap doesn't happen any more anywhere.
None of us is free until ALL of us are free.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Very noble sentiment.
What does the slave dream of?
Egnever
(21,506 posts)The video suggests at the end that suicide is the answer and that unfortunately ruins the whole video. The message is a good one and the video is well done IMHO right up until the ending. Remove that ending and I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Kansas has a lot to do with it also he likely would have gotten away with it in a more progressive state. Although with the ending of that video he might not.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)..."suggest (...) that suicide is the answer". That is utter nonsense!
It DOES suggest that suicide is a possible RESULT of this kind of bullying.
I wonder why you felt the need to misrepresent the video like that. Or is that really the message you got? If so, that's... twisted.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)the girl in the video uses suicide to escape the bullying and that is the end of the video. The rest of the video did a good job of showing the pain the bullying caused there was no need for the suicide scene and in my opinion it leaves the impression it is an acceptable solution as that ends the video and the bullying in the video.
Your mileage may vary but I would be pissed if it was shown to my 11 year old with that ending without my permission.
I wouldn't want the guy fired over it but I would not be pleased.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...since TYT only showed an excerpt. But still, if you actually think it promoted suicide as an "answer" then I think your views are twisted.
If you had just said it would concern you, as a parent, to see a simulated suicide, then sure I can understand that. But you are reading something into it that is just not there.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)WTF?
How can you even comment?
Watch it and get back to me...
trumad
(41,692 posts)You do know that Bully victims actually do commit suicide... you do know that right?
Egnever
(21,506 posts)It is a huge problem and not one that should be shown as a way to end bullying to young children.
The rest of the video is well done but the ending is not suitable for young children without parents permission.
You may think it's fine and that is certainly your prerogative but I don't and I completely understand parents complaining about it. If they showed that to my 11 year old without my permission I would be bent.
trumad
(41,692 posts)12, 13...14?
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I commented on the video posted in the OP. Standard operating procedure on a discussion forum in my experience. For you to ask "How can you even comment?" is ridiculous.
TTFN
LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)catrose
(5,068 posts)And upsetting. Which it should be. I hope the teacher finds a place worthy of him.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Maybe a blessing in disguise! However, I'm sure he'd receive offers from more-enlightened school districts if he wanted to continue. I could see him retiring and going "part time" at a school that valued his keen insight and awareness.
catrose
(5,068 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)As a teacher, he's probably vested in a public retirement system that represents several schools, unlike a private system that can be meddled with by corporate executives. And he wasn't accused and convicted of a crime, which I believe could affect one's retirement benefits--but I'm not certain.
I would say that his retirement is secure. Perhaps a more knowledgeable DUer could weigh in on this topic.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)The people in this community obviously are not ready for this sort of awakening.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)The Teacher found a video that most Kansas teens can find common ground with the protagonist. In other words; something that teaches.
Kansas parents apparently aren't in favor of that.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)First it's Kansas not the most receptive of climates for that video in the first place. Secondly the ending of the film seems to suggest suicide is the answer to bullying.
While I agree with the overall message I would not want my middle school kid to watch that mostly because of the ending.
I think firing is a bit harsh but I totally understand parents being upset over it's showing.
Remove the suicide scene at the end at I doubt I would have a problem with it but with that scene in I find it highly inappropriate for middle school kids.
trumad
(41,692 posts)It is a reality that bullied kids commit suicide. Why do you want to hide that fact?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Or Pulp Fiction told people they should kill other people.
If one watches that movie and doesn't feel horrible that people kill themselves over this (which they do), they one is either a robot or just doesn't get things very easily.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)And that isn't it.
That video is NOT encouraging suicide.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)In many schools it's not just winked at, it's encouraged.