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by John Nichols
The Nation
11/4/15
A Republican referred to as Kentuckys Trump just beat a mainstream Democrat in a race the Democrats should have won.
Democrats who think they can win simply by highlighting the extremism of Republicansa popular notion as Dr. Ben Carson, Donald Trump, and Senator Ted Cruz rank high in Republican presidential pollswould do well to consider the case of Kentucky.
Yes, Kentuckywhere cautious Democrats just clashed with extremist Republicans. In an exceptionally low-turnout election, in which two-thirds of eligible voters failed to cast ballots, the Republicans prevailed.
....snip....Democrats have dominated Kentucky statehouse politics with only a few exceptions since the end of the Civil War. Even as other border states were following Southern states into the Republican fold, and even as Republicans were winning federal elections in Kentucky, Democrats (some of a populist persuasion, some with strong personal followings) have held their own in state races.
The party has lost Kentuckys governorship in only two elections over the past 70 years. They held it even in 2011, just after the 2010 Republican-wave election that saw the GOP take control of statehouses in far bluer states such as Wisconsin, Ohio, and Michigan.
This year, Kentucky Democrats took the safe route. They discouraged populists such as former Lieutenant Governor Dan Mongiardo, a coal-country physician who talked of running a campaign for the soul of our Democratic Party, and settled on state Attorney General Jack Conway, who lost a 2010 Senate race to Republican Rand Paul. Conway had plenty of money, plenty of statewide name recognition and the solid record of outgoing Democratic Governor Steve Beshear to run on. Conway repeated his talking points and presented himself as a suitably experienced, if drably managerial, successor to the popular Beshear. But it wasnt enough. Conway lost. Badly.
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http://www.thenation.com/article/warning-from-kentucky-managerial-democrats-can-lose-to-extreme-republicans/
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Would Kentucky Democrats have run better if they had gone big? Would they have excited more voters if, in addition to proposing to maintain that which is working, they had promised to do a whole lot more to address urban and rural poverty, raise wages, and upset economic calculus that invariably favors the one percent over the 99 percent?....
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)where is the motivation to vote?
We need Democrats to be Democrats. That is how we will GOTV. We will keep losing if we continue to be the lesser evil, but still evil.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)If the Democratic party had not moved away from it's traditional FDR values and replaced them by jumping on board with the republican party and their perpetual economic war on the poor and middle class they'd be kicking ass across the board...
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thanks raindaddy.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)As you probably already know....The Democratic party is not only losing elections it's losing it's membership.. down to 30% and decreasing... The "New Democrats" are creating a situation that's not sustainable...
Thank you River Lover
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)focused strongly on the candidate's democratic values. This was a good candidate for this not-blue state, but his campaign made the same mistake dozens made in the 2012 midterms -- it took what seemed a safest route meant to appeal to the greatest number by offering a sensible but bland message. And inspired no one.
It's like the difference between telling a quarreling family that, yes, turkey, ham, and roast beef would all be great for Thanksgiving OR that Thanksgiving just is not Thanksgiving without Grandma's turkey and stuffing -- and that the jellied cranberry sauce from the can is a must!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)is it a sign that the party isn't working as it should?
The DLC rationalized it's pushing aside of labor friendly/status quo liberals in favor or more donor friendly pro-corporate support because of ... election losses.
Why doesn't that argument obtain for all these state elections? Why can't we say that, KY Dems, like WI Dems before them, have failed to provide options--philosophies-policies-and personalities--that attract voters?
Maybe Dems need to rethink how to build a strong party base that appeals to and engages voters.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)elections even at the most local of levels. Actually local elections are the most important but many times positions are unopposed.
I don't know what can be done. I wish we were more like some other countries about our vote. Everyone is auto registered at the national level and it is very easy to cast the vote from home.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I don't see any reason why, for example, WI Dems couldn't turn to mail-in ballots and have election periods that last a week or more.
Acceptance of imposition of voter-suppression techniques on partisan democratic elections by republican controlled governments is truly worthy of ridicule. If state dems want to have elections by mail to increase opportunities for people to participate they should go ahead and do that.
Personally, I think not-voting is undesirable, but I think lack of participation is a result of failures within the party.
SharonAnn
(13,779 posts)You either have to work within the existing laws or get them changed, which is nearly impossible in most states.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)If a candidate loses, they failed to do their job.
Lots of status-quo supporting Democrats will scream "stupid voters!!!!" because that's a lot easier than re-examining the party's strategy and positions.
ananda
(28,877 posts)People are willing to completely give up access to healthcare
and a decent living wage in order to make an ideological
statement against people they hate.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)14% were not. And the rest sat on their asses. Someone should really try to figure out why they did so.
ananda
(28,877 posts).. a willingness to just go along with the conservative trend.
That is because a voter would have to be an utter cretin
not to understand that leaving the state to the GOP means
utter ruin for its people based on ideological hate.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Just going along with the conservative trend?
ananda
(28,877 posts)I've been thinking for quite a while that this problem will
not be solved by any one "savior" president or leader.
Only mass organization on a very large scale, and one that
doesn't back down at all, will make a difference.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)The Party mobilization was also awful.
It didn't help that Bevins running-mate was an engaging AA woman which pulled a number of AA voters to him.
The fact that Grimes and Beshear won is a miracle.