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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:06 PM Nov 2015

Ben Carson Is Following Jimmy Carter’s Presidential Playbook

th an­ger at Wash­ing­ton and ca­reer politi­cians at his­tor­ic levels, a mild-mannered out­sider starts catch­ing mo­mentum des­pite be­ing viewed as a na­ive novice. His un­soph­ist­ic­ated per­son­al­ity draws mock­ery from polit­ic­al in­siders, but does little to dent his poll num­bers. His ap­peal to evan­gel­ic­al voters gives him an in­side track in the Iowa caucuses, even as it makes party lead­ers un­com­fort­able. His re­cord is at­tacked as ex­treme, even with­in his own party. Yet he holds sig­ni­fic­ant leads in early gen­er­al-elec­tion polling against a well-known op­pon­ent from the oth­er party.

This could be a story about Ben Car­son’s seem­ingly long-shot bid for the pres­id­ency this year. But the same points could be made of Jimmy Carter’s out-of-nowhere pres­id­en­tial cam­paign in 1976—one that led to him be­com­ing the 39th pres­id­ent of the United States. And to un­der­stand why Car­son is per­form­ing so well in the Re­pub­lic­an primary field des­pite his ab­ject lack of gov­ern­ing ex­per­i­ence, Carter’s pres­id­en­tial bid—and the na­tion­al en­vir­on­ment sur­round­ing his can­did­acy—is an im­port­ant start.

It can be pre­sump­tu­ous to com­pare elec­tions, but the polit­ic­al en­vir­on­ment of 1976 is about as close to a re­cent par­al­lel as you can find to the one shap­ing today’s volat­ile cam­paign. Four dec­ades ago, in the wake of the Wa­ter­gate scan­dal, voters lost trust in Wash­ing­ton, and viewed those with polit­ic­al ex­per­i­ence skep­tic­ally. The crowded Demo­crat­ic field was filled with sen­at­ors and con­gress­men (Mo Ud­all, Scoop Jack­son, and Birch Bayh among them), none of whom con­nec­ted with the pub­lic. In­fla­tion was drag­ging down the eco­nomy, which had been stag­nant for years. Ter­ror­ism was emer­ging as a pop­u­lar tac­tic in­ter­na­tion­ally. The in­cum­bent party was tain­ted by scan­dal, and Pres­id­ent Ford was dam­aged by as­so­ci­ation after par­don­ing Richard Nix­on—while fa­cing an in­sur­gent chal­lenge from Ron­ald Re­agan. The coun­try was clearly headed down the wrong track, in the minds of voters, and that mani­fes­ted it­self in that year’s elec­tion res­ults.

Enter Carter, who was as un­con­ven­tion­al of a Demo­crat­ic can­did­ate as it got back then. He was as much as an out­sider with­in the Demo­crat­ic party then as Car­son is now. He won his lone cam­paign for gov­ernor of Geor­gia in 1970 by court­ing con­ser­vat­ives in a ra­cially-charged cam­paign that at­tacked his Demo­crat­ic op­pon­ent as an urb­an lib­er­al. Carter’s pres­id­en­tial cam­paign showed sur­pris­ing grass­roots strength by fo­cus­ing his ef­forts on the then-in­sig­ni­fic­ant Iowa caucuses, fin­ish­ing ahead of all the oth­er can­did­ates in the race. He was a quirky pres­id­en­tial can­did­ate: Dur­ing the race, Carter pledged to re­lease every piece of gov­ern­ment in­form­a­tion about UFOs avail­able to sci­ent­ists—after fil­ing a UFO re­port him­self as gov­ernor. He sat down for an in­ter­view with Play­boy, ac­know­ledging that he “com­mit­ted adul­tery in [his] heart many times.” That didn’t stop him from win­ning the pres­id­ency at a time when the pub­lic was em­bra­cing out­siders, scram­bling the elect­or­al map in sur­pris­ing ways for a party that nom­in­ated George McGov­ern four years earli­er. (That year, Carter nearly swept the South and car­ried Mis­sis­sippi, Alabama and Texas—the last Demo­crat­ic pres­id­en­tial nom­in­ee to win those deeply con­ser­vat­ive states.) .........................................................more

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/90225/ben-carson-is-following-jimmy-carters-presidential-playbook

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
2. Ben Carson is *nothing* like Jimmy Carter.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

Carson is basically an idiot savant who knows a lot about surgery and nothing at all about anything else. Carter was and is a brilliant man who, also unlike Carson, actually had experience in government. Even if Carter might have been "quirky" (though he really wasn't), he was not stupid or ignorant, nor was he outside mainstream politics, nor was he hateful, bigoted, extreme and just plain weird. Carson is all of those things. The writer also describes Carter as a "humble outsider." Carson, in contrast, is not at all humble. He's arrogant enough to believe that because he was a successful surgeon that's enough to qualify him to be president.

What kind of idiot writes this shit, anyhow?

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Probably writers that you don't read.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:36 PM
Nov 2015

The article cited has nothing to do with your speculation, yeah. End of discussion.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
7. Yes Todd did and he referenced the article.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

Didnt figure out what u were talking about since u linked back to my post! There are some similarities but Carter inherited a lot worse problems than now though. Watergate, high inflation, high unemployment, Iranian revolution and a congress that didnt like him much, etc.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
8. What state is Carson governor of?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:33 PM
Nov 2015

Confusion? Disaster?

He may reside in those places, but he don' govern there. Nobody elected him.

The column reads as though Josh had a dumbass thought lodged in his head and had a deadline breathing down his neck, resulting in the usual level of quality such circumstances produce.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
11. No, he's following the Bedtime for Bonzo star's playbook
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:31 AM
Nov 2015

except for the stop where Ronnie was California governor.

But Carson wouldn't be the first clown the Rethugs got elected President. They do well with puppets, like Reagan and the Shrub.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
12. Rick Santorum is a better Comparison with Trump being the Newt Figure
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 04:12 AM
Nov 2015

but he has an advantage as the establishment has not united behind someone as they did with Romney. it was supposed to be Jeb but he is even worse than romney and w bush . rubio hasn't done anything to stand out that much .

and the conservatives feel they lost because they ran "liberals" like mccain and romney .

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