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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:24 PM Nov 2015

NO, Windows 10 IS NOT "automatic spying" on you.

All that is happening is any crash data from the OS or application failures is automatically being transmitted to Microsoft.

This is something that goes on in every version of Windows from 7 on. The only difference is it cannot be turned off in Windows 10, unlike prior versions.

No personal data is being transmitted. Nothing that can identify you is being transmitted.

So stop this from being LudditeUnderground. The big deal about this is Microsoft will be capable of correcting issues much more swiftly because they will know about them much more swiftly.

Anybody pushing Linux over this may have the ulterior motive of trying to stop Microsoft from continuing to produce a far superior and more used OS.

The FUD from those who are pushing the idea that Microsoft is spying on you is astounding.

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GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
1. Microsoft admits Windows 10 automatic spying cannot be stopped.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:39 PM
Nov 2015
So how concerned should users be about Windows 10’s default data collection policies? I would say very.

By default Windows 10 Home is allowed to control your bandwidth usage, install any software it wants whenever it wants (without providing detailed information on what these updates do), display ads in the Start Menu (currently it has been limited to app advertisements), send your hardware details and any changes you make to Microsoft and even log your browser history and keystrokes which the Windows End User Licence Agreement (EULA) states you allow Microsoft to use for analysis.

The good news: even if Belfiore states you cannot switch off everything, editing your privacy settings will disable the worst of these. To find them open the Start menu > Settings > Privacy.

The bad news: despite Belfiore’s pledge “to continue to listen”, Microsoft’s actions (including the impending Windows 7 and Windows 8 upgrade pressure) suggests the company’s recent love for Big Brother tactics is only going to get worse before it gets better…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. No no no...when the VP of microsoft admits it, here on DU
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 04:41 PM
Nov 2015

we are supposed to believe some random username over...that other guy!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Your attempt only backfired, as usual.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

Yes he did and yet you...a total nobody...expect someone to believe you over their VP? Pathetic that you would even try.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
8. Keylogger, no. Probably not.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:15 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.zdnet.com/article/does-windows-10-really-include-a-keylogger-spoiler-no/

Does Windows 10 really include a keylogger? (Spoiler: No)
Conspiracy theories sometimes take on a life of their own, independent of the facts. Here's how this one got started.

Also:
http://lifehacker.com/windows-10s-keylogger-fiasco-has-been-blown-out-of-pr-1642931793

However, many sites reporting on this fail to mention a few very important points:

This is not only unsurprising, this is the entire point of the Technical Preview. The Technical Preview exists for Microsoft to study how people use the system, gather feedback, and improve the product before it releases it to consumers. And it states this on the download page.

This is not a feature of Windows 10—this exists only for the Technical Preview and will be removed from the final version of Windows 10.

As we've already said, you should not be using the Technical Preview for anything even remotely sensitive—you should only be using it to get a peek at what's coming in Windows, and give feedback to Microsoft. Not only are they collecting diagnostics, but Windows 10 can be buggy, crash-prone, and insecure.

Some of these features, like speech-to-text, will always need to send your data back to Microsoft. OS X, iOS, and Android all include this feature, for example.



If you have any links supporting your claim I'm very interested in reading them.
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
10. No need to trust them
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:58 PM
Nov 2015

There are plenty of sites out there that will sell you whatever conspiracy theory you want to go with when it comes to MS.

forsaken mortal

(112 posts)
11. I like the quip about Linux
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:22 PM
Nov 2015
Anybody pushing Linux over this may have the ulterior motive of trying to stop Microsoft from continuing to produce a far superior and more used OS.


I hope more people do flock to Linux and break the stranglehold MS has on much of the market. But don't worry, your MS friends won't be going away soon, there's no need to be so emotionally invested in the survival of Win10.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
15. I use Linux for home server applications.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

Linux does a shitty job of running the games I like to play and the graphics applications I like to use, so I go with Windows 10 for those.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. MS apologists are sad like all apologists. Only TWO posters run around and bootlick MS.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:44 PM
Nov 2015

And they are BOTH in this thread. They are boring and predictable.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
12. "Luddite" - that word does not mean what you think it does
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 06:46 PM
Nov 2015

The Luddites were a group from the 19th Century who fought against the mechanization of their work, often with violence and sometimes murder. They are not those who don't camp out overnight in breathless anticipation of the latest iThing. One of the most misused words I've seen in recent times.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
20. Your link CONFIRMS my OP
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:45 PM
Nov 2015
First is the safety and reliability telemetry data, information about system and application crashes. Myerson says that this information should be anonymous; most of it has no personal information at all, and to the extent that personal information might be included (disclosed in, for example, file and directory names or fragments of memory included in crash reports), Microsoft tries to scrub all data that it receives.

The post also loosely describes why this information is useful: a third party graphics driver was recently found to be causing crashes. The telemetry data let Microsoft know that the crash was occurring and which driver was at fault, and it gave some hints as to what the bug was. Within 24 hours of finding the bug, a fix was rolled out to members of the Windows Insider program. Another 24 hours later and the fix was rolled out to all affected Windows users
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