So, Apple finally forced me to convert to using an Android phone.

[geek tragedy]

Last straw? Not letting me listen to the music I've paid for on my own phone, offline. Now I have to stream every song, using data, even for music I bought on CDs and imported. Even though the songs are on my goddamn phone, taking up memory, I can't listen to them offline.

iPhone 6s is a lovely piece of technology. Too bad Apple got greedy and probably broke the law and had to ruin it. There has to be a class action lawsuit over this shit.

Assholes.

Fuck Apple.

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. Apple has ALWAYS been greedy

their software prices make them cost prohibitive alone...

[geek tragedy]

2. but this is illegal, it's theft.

freaking assholes. Really can't believe they'd pull something this brazen

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. Its also why I got the Samsung 5 and not the 6 a few months ago....

because Android 6 is trying to be like Apple....no MicroSD Drive....

I am very happy with this Samsung 5...I took my MicroSD out of my S3 and plopped it right into the S5 and there were all my audio books, music and images...like magic.....and I was off to the races!

[MurrayDelph]

50. I upgraded to the S5 instead of the S6 for that reason, plus

the S6 doesn't have a removable battery.

External batteries are not the same thing; if my phone dies, I want to be able to swap now, not ten minutes (or more) from now.

[VanillaRhapsody]

51. true true true...

I think the S7 will be a rethink about that....

[PowerToThePeople]

39. I do not think it is theft.

Copying your CDs is copyright infringement. Locking down the iPhone to only access locations of known non-infringing material does not come across as illegal either.

I would not use one because it is way too expensive, I go for inexpensive because I am poor.

[emulatorloo]

57. The OP is incorrect, no problem playing songs stored on my iPhone

Also FWIW Apple doesn't block CD rips. There is a tool in iTunes that helps you convert your CD's and put them on your phone.

[workinclasszero]

65. We will only rent all media soon, never own it

Its horsecrap for sure.

[Paulie]

3. Um. It works fine. You sync to your phone not stream from iCloud.

Works the same since the original iPod. Settings, Music, switch off iCloud music library then sync to iTunes for your local music/playlists.

[geek tragedy]

5. that option doesn't exist on the new iOS.

The only menu options are:

Show Apple Music
Join Apple Music

Use Cellular Data
High Quality on Cellular

Sort Albums
Genius
Subscribe to iTunes Match

EQ
Volume Limit
Sound Check
***************
Fuck Apple. Won't even let me listen to music I fucking paid for.

All in order to force people to pay for their shitty Apple Music service.

Crooks.

[Atman]

9. So you just don't know how to use your phone.

That's not Apple's problem. How come my iPhone works just fine? I have over 10,000 songs on my Mac, easily sync playlists to my phone. The phone won't hold all the music, so it's kind of nice to have the option of cloud storage, even though I rarely use it. Amazon Prime music gives me a fantastic alternative either way.

Anyway, you're bucking the trend, good for you. Industry says 30% of new iPhone sales have come from Android users who've given up. But as sure as the sun is gonna rise, someone is gonna complain about Apple because they couldn't figure out a new feature on their iPhone.

[geek tragedy]

11. No, I know perfectly fucking well how to use my own fucking phone. I was listening to music on the

subway this morning when ALL of my music suddently became unavailable. Music that IS ALREADY ON MY PHONE.

This is Apple's misconduct.

I'm going to talk to a class action lawyer about this. They're conspiring with the cell carriers to FORCE people to stream their own goddamn music, driving up data usage.

Dishonest, greedy assholes.

I'm glad Steve Jobs is tanking at the theaters.

[treestar]

14. Customer service is pretty good

You can make appointments online. Or call. They've always been responsive for me.

[Atman]

18. How is Apple making money off of this evil scheme?

That's quite a crazy conspiracy theory you've got going on there. Evil Apple even turned off your music while you were listening to it? Weird, because I have an iPhone and the music I ripped from my own CDs is still there, the music I sync to my phone is still there. But what do I know...I just use the damn thing, and it works. I'm not the one claiming Apple is out to somehow make money by somehow forcing you to use a service they don't even charge you for.

[geek tragedy]

20. turns out, the songs all got erased from my phone (even though there's 45GB available)

I will redownload the songs to the device, and if this happens again, the wireless store where I got this phone is right across the street.

Never had a problem with this until Apple started pushing its lame attempt to compete with Spotify and Pandora.

[we can do it]

44. Operator error.

[NobodyHere]

83. More like Apple glitch

Lots of people have had the same thing happen to them.

[philosslayer]

60. Geez, relax

I have an iPhone 6s. Nary a problem with it. I listen to all the music I want, wherever I want. And you're already getting ready to call in the class-action lawyers. Easy now.....

[Logical]

67. So you screwed up and blamed apple? Self delete post please! Nt

[HuckleB]

75. +1,000,000 ... 000

I don't understand why the OP hasn't edited the content, at least.

[n2doc]

17. I have a 6s and it works fine with my old music

Don't know what the problem is. I don't use iCloud for anything except keeping contacts updated.

[LiberalArkie]

28. I have 8 gb of music on my iPhone 6 and never stream it. No problem

Go into iTunes and select what music to sync to the phone. And then click sync


Edit to add. plug the phone into the computer via the cable

Edit Again.. Go to Settings General About and check how many songs are listed. This should be how many are on the phone.

[geek tragedy]

29. the music was on my phone last night

this morning it somehow got erased. it's very strange

[LiberalArkie]

30. Yea, I know.. the same happened to mine one night. After I put them back they stayed

Nothing like going to the gym and nothing to listen to.

Just very how many songs listed in the about every time I update.

[REP]

87. I have 23Gb of music on my 6S+. All of it is playable.

A lot of it is from CDs I ripped or vinyl I converted. It all plays.

[EdwardBernays]

4. I just switched

to a Galaxy S6 Edge+ and using it next to an iPhone 6S Plus I am happy with my decision... it's a much better phone, except it has fewer apps, but the app store is WILDLY bloated.

Will I miss a few games? Yep. Is that enough to pay more for a less powerful phone (with a relatively crappy screen) that weighs more, is less customisable, has a worse camera and smaller battery?

Not for me.

Really happy.

[hobbit709]

7. The i in Apple products stands for idiot.

[geek tragedy]

12. Never had this problem before, this is a new trick on their part.

[hobbit709]

13. Apple has long been known for their DRM bullshit on stuff you legally own.

[geek tragedy]

15. This was every single song, purchased via Itunes, bought on CD, whatever.

It's not a DRM issue. It's them trying to force people to use data and also pay for their shitty new streaming service.

[hobbit709]

16. The effect is the same.

I've avoided Apple like the plague ever since they came out with the Macs and got all proprietary about everything.
Their hardware specs are not worth the price they want and the software shouldn't be that expensive either.

[Atman]

19. Wait, what?

What software? Mac OS software updates are free. And what do you mean "ever since they came out with the Macs and got all proprietary?" You mean, like 35 years ago or something? You still upset about that? Also, there is no point in the old hardware specs argument. Reliability and quality have been proven over and over again from virtually every computer magazine, website and consumer index, except for "I Totally Hate Anything Apple" magazine, to which you are apparently a subscriber. So you probably don't have much real-world knowledge of them. But that's cool. It's always a fun source of arguments on DU.

[hobbit709]

22. I started out long before Apple.

My first computer build was a M.I.T.S. Altair 8800. I've owned several Apple IIs, I've built prototype boards for IBM for the early PCs. Worked on TI 960, 980, 990 systems. I think I know an overpriced POS when I see one.

Linux is free.

[Atman]

26. My first was a Kaypro.

I don't even know if it had a model number. I metal case with a keyboard that clipped to the front, acting as protection for the tiny 9" monochrome green screen. It was truly portable, very similar to what would eventually be the Lisa. So you have some bona fides, great. But you still just sound like a gear-head telling people they should just build their own cars because the Shelby Cobra you worked on in high school was so boss.

[Egnever]

69. That just is not true

http://www.statisticbrain.com/laptop-malfunction-rates/

Apple comes in fourth place on three year failure rates. Asus has been kicking butt for years now.

[DetlefK]

8. The Foxconn-suicides are the only reason I need to stay away from Apple.

[Atman]

10. Foxconn most likely made the phone you're using instead of Evil Apple's.

Foxconn makes just about everything, for HP, Samsung, most of the major brands. But if you alphabetize your brand hatred, Apple does come first.

[Lizzie Poppet]

34. Not mine.

Unless Foxconn has a plant in Korea making LGs...

[brooklynite]

37. Please tell us the free-trade organic phone you're using...

[DetlefK]

42. Actually there is a Smartphone that is explicitly environmentally friendly and ethically produced:

I'm currently using a second-hand Smartphone, but this is the one I would buy next:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairphone

https://www.oneclickroot.com/android-smartphones/pre-rooted-fairphone-the-phone-that-puts-social-values-first-now-available-to-order/

[dembotoz]

21. every few days is get a message on my pc about installing more apple crap i love to check no

makes me feel good

[Pisces]

23. This thread is Apple trolling. Ha, what a joke. No one is following you off your cliff. Enjoy your

subpar phone. After owning an apple you will want to to throw your new phone out the window in less than a week. Learn to use
your phone and learn to call customer support for help when you can't figure it our.

[geek tragedy]

25. Oh, I've been pretty happy thus far, but apple has decided that it needs to turn

phones into streaming devices instead of being oriented towards what customers want.

that's where the money is apparently.

[emulatorloo]

58. THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE. You can stream or you can play files stored on your iPhone

Sorry you are having problems with this. Call Apple support or visit an Apple Store, they will help you sort this out.

Your thread is attracting all the rabid DU apple haters. Keep in mind they don't know anything about Apple or iOS.

[philosslayer]

63. Forget it, he's rolling....

[redstateblues]

85. Apple makes great products

The Genius Bar is fantastic for solving problems

[Hosnon]

32. Subpar phone? The Galaxy S6 beat out the iPhone in many reviews for 2015.

Source: http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440/10

In my experience, the iPhone is the best phone for people who are heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem or are not tech savvy ("It just works.&quot . Android is much more customizable - I get exceedingly frustrated every time I try to set up something on a family member's iPhone.

[marmar]

24. Not being able to download apps without an iTunes account is reason enough to keep me away.....

...... and I actually have an iTunes account for my iPod, but I just find it absurd that you need an account to download FREE apps. It's a non-issue with my G4 android.

[ellie]

27. I never use my iPhone to listen

to music. The battery is shit, man.

[Jeroen]

31. My only complaint about Apple is the lack of support for 'older' hardware.

I.O.S.8 destroyed my iPad 2 and I am not happy about it.

[demmiblue]

40. Tell me about it.

Mine is still pretty functional, except for the reloading issues (beyond annoying, especially when you have to keep reentering passwords). I tried a few tweaks... they seemed to help, but not by much.

I wish I never updated!

[Jeroen]

47. I switched from Safari to Google browser

Sites like DU would reload again and again
Google has its drawbacks, but it works better (no reloads)

I've been told that a complete reset of iPad solves most issues.
Haven't tried it yet, will see

[Hosnon]

33. I've heard the same complaint on reddit for the last few weeks. I'm not sure why Apple requires

streaming if the music is on the device. It's odd.

For what it's worth, Google Music doesn't (I'm very happy at $7.99 per month).

[brooklynite]

35. I have no idea what you're talking about...

I have all my music loaded on my iPhone 6; I don't stream anything.

[geek tragedy]

43. it erased all of my music that was downloaded onto the device. no idea why. nt

[we can do it]

45. It's a conspiracy.

[snooper2]

46. So my new App is working....cool!

One small step closer to RULING THE WORLD!

[Johonny]

49. It did that to my ipod as well

Apple claimed it was a glitch. Luckily I has it all backed up. I stopped buying apple because the only product of theirs I used was the ipod and now they don't make them. Their replacement is costly, has less memory, and too many features I don't need.

I'm glad the old ipods still have a lot of life. Not sure what I'll do when it gives up the ghost.

[emulatorloo]

68. That's incorrect, Apple still makes and sells iPods. Link here:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/

They have an iPod touch they introduced in July 2015. They also manufacture and sell the iPod nano and iPod shuffle.

[Johonny]

73. No, I'm correct

My old Ipod "classic" is gone. They stopped making them. They are now something of an item on the used market because people still like them over the replacement touch and nano due to size and durability issues with the other.As I said the newer products don't work for me as I needed to full size of the old Ipod classic and don't need most of what the touch does that mine doesn't. I think the Touch will eventually scale up its memory size and be a suitable replacement, but honestly it is more a generational thing. Younger people could, stream, etc... older people want to use their collection. Apple always goes younger and ignores the older crowd.

[emulatorloo]

80. Yeah classic discontinued. But you post said apple wasn't selling iPods

You didn't specify they weren't selling the classic.

Not trying to be picky with you. Just don't want our resident obsessed apple-haters to latch onto 'Apple doesn't sell iPods' and add that to their arsenal

Oldster here too lol. I rarely stream, always like to play from device itself too!

I had the model before the classic, loved it. The mechanical hard-drive failed, I could have replaced it myself but at the time coastwise it didn't make sense. Hope your classic lives forever!

At some point I got a good deal on a 32gb iPod touch. I was not sure I needed the other features but found out I enjoyed them. Plus no mechanical hard drive which made me feel

[Nye Bevan]

36. I just put my iPhone into airplane mode and was still able to play the music that is on my phone.

If what you are saying were true I think there would have been an incredible shitstorm all over the internet. People unable to listen to their music library on a plane or on the New York subway? I don't think so.

[bullwinkle428]

52. I drive stretches of interstate across the country where cell coverage is spotty.

This would be a deal-breaker for me if I couldn't play my own music without being online.

[emulatorloo]

70. Same here. I play music stored on my iPhone.

Basically OP doesn't have his facts straight.

[Quackers]

38. Hey

I have all Apple products from phones and iPad to Apple TV. If you ever have any problems, just let me know, I would love to help! Fwiw, I've made games and a few apps on both iOS and Android platforms. Whichever you decide, good luck with it!

[Etraker]

41. I have had a Samsung Galaxy 5 since June of 2014. That is when I left iPhone and At&T.

i can upgrade in June of 2016. I will be going back to iPhone asap. I will never jump the fence again. Android is an inferior product.

[dilby]

48. Wow that sucks.

I have Amazon Prime so I get a lot of the free music through prime but if I own any of it they don't make me stream it, it can be on my phone and play.

[TwilightGardener]

53. I have an iPhone 3 or 4 (not even sure which it is). Husband got it for me.

I could upgrade, but it works OK. One thing though, is that some of my itunes music has been "greyed out". It's there in the lists, but can't play it, and can't get it to download again from the computer itunes program. Music we paid for. Pisses me off. I don't stream anything.

[Atman]

54. You have to go select it in iTunes.

The grey-out songs means you own them, but they weren't selected when you last synced with iTunes. For instance, you may own an enter album, but only like three songs on it, so at some point you deselected those songs (it makes it convenient to block stuff for shuffle play). Unless they're also on the cloud (doesn't sound likely), you'll have to reselect them in iTunes then sync your phone. It will give you a status bar indicating how much space you have available.

Again, no one has taken anything from you or is making you stream anything. The user ultimately controls the settings, even if they don't realize they have the ability to do so. If you're not sure how to do it, there are probably a hundred help sites online that will guide you through it. Or you can drop by an Apple store, but they try to sell you an upgrade, of course.

[TwilightGardener]

84. OK, will try it, thanks.

[emulatorloo]

59. Confirming that Atman is correct.

[emulatorloo]

55. I am on iOS 9.1. I play songs stored on my phone with no problem

[ileus]

56. Crapple.....they've never trusted their customer, it's their way or the highway.

I've never understood the lemming following that company has.


Hell they don't even trust you to replace batteries or expand memory. FSJ and Apple.

[workinclasszero]

61. Not letting me listen to the music I've paid for on my own phone, offline.

Wow that sucks. Didn't know apple had gone that far. SMH

[HuckleB]

64. They haven't.

The OP has been debunked repeatedly in the thread.

[Action_Patrol]

66. They didn't. It's user error.

[emulatorloo]

76. Apple did no such thing. No problems here playing stored music on iPhone

I rarely stream music, most everything is stored on the iPhone itself. As far as I can tell, OP has run into a technical error or operator error. I hope he can get it straightened out soon.

[hunter]

62. I love posts like this. I can smugly proclaim I'll never have a problem with my smart phone...

... because I can't imagine why I would want one.

[Egnever]

71. Ludites unite!

How's the fax holding up?

[tammywammy]

74. ...

http://www.theonion.com/article/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel-429

[HuckleB]

77. Has The Onion done one for...

"Area Man Keeps Getting Dirty Looks When He Informs People He Doesn't Have Texting." Because that one needs to be done!

[Initech]

72. I'm more "fuck online music streaming services".

I heard an ad the other day that said "Do you want a service that provides ad free music streaming in exchange for allowing us to collect information about the purchases you make everyday". My answer to thar was "Um... fuck off.".

I'd like to tell Apple where they can shove their music streaming service, but in the interest of good taste, I won't.

[Agnosticsherbet]

78. I don't care for apple, and my experience with the IPad was

Bad.

I don't use them.

[Initech]

86. Yeah I'm thinking of getting a Galaxy Tab S2 over an Ipad Air 2.

Though I'd much rather have the previous generation Galaxy Tab S for 16 : 9.

[Egnever]

79. Don't know what you are looking at but

I would take a long hard look at the new nexus phones.

Not only are they great phones but if you are so inclined you can use them with Googles new wireless service that runs on the tmobile and sprint networks and hands off to whichever has better coverage for you automatically. That by itself is awesome but on top of that it is cheap it starts at $20 per month for unlimited talk and text and $10 for each gig of data you use after that.

I am kicking myself for buying a motox a few months before the new nexuses came out. The Moto x is a great phone but is not google fi ready.

As an added bonus nexus phones get Android updates first and dont have weird skins on them that impact performance.

[winstars]

81. Hey, Apple just made me put two quarters and a dime in my iPhone to make a local phone call!!!

And then Siri told me that the music on my phone sucks and thats why I can't play it!!!

And the Maps app keeps crashing after saying to me to stay home, that no one wants to see me anyway...

I'm getting 2 lawyers right away!!!

[Agschmid]

82. That's not accurate...

You can make your entire library available "offline" as long as your phone can store it (data wise) you are set.