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The greatest beards of the Civil War, in one chart (Original Post) struggle4progress Nov 2015 OP
I keep my beard somewhere between Grant and Lee Recursion Nov 2015 #1
Ambrose Burnside, who, I'm sure you know,... Ferretherder Nov 2015 #2
Burnside is an odd figure. Probably the best Corps commander the Union had Recursion Nov 2015 #3
Very true. Help me out here,... Ferretherder Nov 2015 #4
Yes. It's more commonly called the Battle of Fredericksburg Recursion Nov 2015 #5
Burnside a great corps commander? 1939 Nov 2015 #6
He kicked Longstreet's butt in Knoxville though Yupster Nov 2015 #7
He didn't have to manuever or anything. 1939 Nov 2015 #10
Ambrose Burnside was totally bald by his 25 year. oneshooter Nov 2015 #8
Nat Borchers approves of this thread. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #9

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. I keep my beard somewhere between Grant and Lee
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:40 AM
Nov 2015

I think I'd need Lee's gray hair to really pull off a full Lee beard (I probably won't have to wait all that long, given my family history).

My brother does an honest-to-God Ambrose Burnside.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
2. Ambrose Burnside, who, I'm sure you know,...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:23 AM
Nov 2015

...gave us the name 'sideburns', for that swath of hair in front of the ears - a feature of prodigious note in the countenance of the general.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. Burnside is an odd figure. Probably the best Corps commander the Union had
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:36 AM
Nov 2015

But any formation larger than that he absolutely could not command.

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
4. Very true. Help me out here,...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:35 AM
Nov 2015

...was Burnside in command at the battle of 'Mary's Heights'? (spelling) It was a complete debacle for the Union army - wave after wave of frontal charges on well fortified positions!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Yes. It's more commonly called the Battle of Fredericksburg
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:40 AM
Nov 2015

But Marye's Heights (thus, incidentally) was the biggest sub-action of that battle. It's been compared to the charge of the Light Brigade in the Crimean war -- Lee said after the battle "It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it".

Burnside missed several key opportunities by refusing to seize the town early when he had the chance, with the result that they had to fight house to house and then move across a low field towards fortified heights. He never should have ordered that charge.

To his credit, he attempted after the third failed charge to charge the Confederate lines himself on horseback, but was talked down from that.

1939

(1,683 posts)
6. Burnside a great corps commander?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:06 AM
Nov 2015

As examples of his failures as a corps commander, i give you:

Antietam-Burnside's Bridge

Petersburg-Battle of the Crater

Grant was pretty upset at Burnside's unreliability as IX Corps commander during the entire Overland Campaign and relived him after the Crater debacle (where he got a division of US Colored Troops slaughtered).



1939

(1,683 posts)
10. He didn't have to manuever or anything.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 05:31 PM
Nov 2015

All he had to do was sit there and hold fast. Probably Longstreet's worst effort of the war and took him out of the running to replace Bragg and get promoted.

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