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Ohio votes on Recreational pot tomorrow! Polls don't look great. (Original Post) Logical Nov 2015 OP
vote them both down and try again for something much better nt msongs Nov 2015 #1
And maybe lose the chance for years. I think vote yes and fix it later. nt Logical Nov 2015 #2
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4 years is not "years"?... lame54 Nov 2015 #23
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Yeah, later... when the backers are more enriched and politically influential jberryhill Nov 2015 #14
Actually Oregonians rejected a poorly constructed law then later passed a better one. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #16
Exactly. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #22
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Sadly, you're probably spot-on. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #30
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Yep. Better to keep jailing people for a harmless herb. Just in case! nt Romulox Nov 2015 #19
No, they are voting for a commercial pot monopoly jberryhill Nov 2015 #3
Is it? safeinOhio Nov 2015 #7
Yeah, you can make 50 gallons of your own beer at home too jberryhill Nov 2015 #13
It's Issue #3 thatgemguy Nov 2015 #4
It's writing a monopoly into the constitution that hurts Maeve Nov 2015 #5
The drive to monopolize pot agriculture by a few huge companies may doom it. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #6
On the other hand safeinOhio Nov 2015 #8
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You are correct safeinOhio Nov 2015 #12
Colorado allows home growing as well. I think they get 6 plants.... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #17
What the hell did people think legalization would mean? Recursion Nov 2015 #15
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There is a thriving community of small pot growers in every state in the nation. Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #32
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I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #18
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I do too. ryan_cats Nov 2015 #33
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I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #36
My favorite Ohio cannabis activist has some serious issues with Issue 3 KamaAina Nov 2015 #20
If it was a straight legalization vote workinclasszero Nov 2015 #21
Depends on the under 30 voter turnout where the issue likely enjoys massive support LonePirate Nov 2015 #26
Even Willie Nelson is against this one. B Calm Nov 2015 #27
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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

lame54

(35,292 posts)
23. 4 years is not "years"?...
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:47 PM
Nov 2015

4 more years of young people going to prison and having their lives destroyed

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. Yeah, later... when the backers are more enriched and politically influential
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:13 AM
Nov 2015

...and control distribution.

It'll be like what happened to beer, but a lot, lot worse, because it leaves NO room for local market participants.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. Actually Oregonians rejected a poorly constructed law then later passed a better one.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:10 AM
Nov 2015

I'm sure the people of Ohio can be as clever as we have been.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
22. Exactly.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

Most pro-legalization folks that voted against it (myself included) did so because that measure was a complete clusterfuck. When a better version was offered, it passed fairly easily...and recreational weed became legal on Oct 1 of this year!

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Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
30. Sadly, you're probably spot-on.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:24 PM
Nov 2015

Mind you, I think pot prohibition's days are numbered across most of the country, and a federal de-listing will happen sooner rather than later. But there will be setbacks, for sure.

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Yeah, you can make 50 gallons of your own beer at home too
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:10 AM
Nov 2015

It's a great hobby, I did it when I was younger and had that kind of time on my hands.

So, gee, I guess then a law that requires all beer to be made by InBev, but you can still brew your own, is just peachy then.

No, that's bullshit is what it is.

You can grow your own tomatoes at home. Lots of people do. A fuckload more don't and/or can't. See if your lease allows indoor gardening. Ah, great, you don't have a lease, but own your own place - like a decided minority of people.

Oh, and let's not see anyone selling their tomatoes to anyone else for a dime a piece.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
5. It's writing a monopoly into the constitution that hurts
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:27 PM
Nov 2015

We did that with the casino issue and folks aren't happy with that. The weed issue was modeled after the casino structure and too many just don't want to give the backers more wealth.
I voted against Issue 3. I hope we get a better, cleaner attempt in the future.

safeinOhio

(32,687 posts)
8. On the other hand
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:09 AM
Nov 2015

it would make it legal to grow your own and share it. A first in mj laws. ACLU suggest voting for #3.

Response to safeinOhio (Reply #8)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. What the hell did people think legalization would mean?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:15 AM
Nov 2015

It's going to end up like every single other crop if it's legalized.

Response to Recursion (Reply #15)

Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
32. There is a thriving community of small pot growers in every state in the nation.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:34 PM
Nov 2015

It becomes very difficult to maintain quality over a large scale operation. Small growers just want a chance to compete in the high end market.

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Response to ryan_cats (Reply #18)

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
33. I do too.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:41 AM
Nov 2015

I think so too.
Since for a loooong time, any amount under an oz was an infraction, the equivalent of running a stop sign so maybe people are just OK with that. We'll see.

Response to ryan_cats (Reply #33)

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
36. I
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:02 AM
Nov 2015

I am for legalization of all drugs.

That would cut the rug out from the criminals and I'm not talking the street dealers.
Use the tax for programs to help people that want help out of addiction.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
20. My favorite Ohio cannabis activist has some serious issues with Issue 3
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:31 PM
Nov 2015

Yes, I have one. And she's also a pagan who performs as a mermaid and has a Savannah cat, a cross between a plain ol' domestic shorthair and a serval, an African wildcat. Oh, and she's slightly under 3 feet tall.

http://hashitoutwithjane.blogspot.com/

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/shockumentary

Yes, her name is really Hash.

edit: As I understand it, the problem is similar to what we had with Prop 19 in California: the way it's written tends to create an oligopoly of a few large growers.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. If it was a straight legalization vote
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

it would have a better chance but that's not the case in Ohio is it?

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
26. Depends on the under 30 voter turnout where the issue likely enjoys massive support
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:04 PM
Nov 2015

Marijuana legalization drives young voters to the polls and a huge turnout by them will push this measure to victory.

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