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A name appears on a list saying someone is a member of the KKK, is that all it takes to believe it? (Original Post) CreekDog Nov 2015 OP
Apparently. Throd Nov 2015 #1
What better way... MrWendel Nov 2015 #2
uh huh. CreekDog Nov 2015 #4
Your seriously... MrWendel Nov 2015 #12
One of the mayors named was a community organizer for Cesar Chavez KamaAina Nov 2015 #6
Anonymous has said that it isnt even from them. bunnies Nov 2015 #3
That's what I was thinking, too. Anyone can put out anything anonymously. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #9
Wouldn't it suck to have a common surname? loyalsister Nov 2015 #5
the flag anecdote is more evidence than anything posted about these folks CreekDog Nov 2015 #7
Exactly my point loyalsister Nov 2015 #15
My bet is there is a Jim Smith in Chicago on that list HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #8
Well, no. It also has to be posted on teh Intertubes. KamaAina Nov 2015 #10
Yep...Lists like this are really suspicious in general The empressof all Nov 2015 #11
Karl Rove. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #13
I can't help but draw parallels with Dalton Trumbo and the rest of the Ten . . . Journeyman Nov 2015 #14
Here you go: Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #16

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
2. What better way...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:46 PM
Nov 2015

for a member of the Klan to go undetected than to be a seen as a Democrat? I would not be so quick to dismiss it.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
12. Your seriously...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:27 PM
Nov 2015

telling me that all Republicans and Democrats are on the up and up? Where is this land of Unicorns and Fairies that you live in? I'm not blinded by party loyalty that I can't see the forest from the trees. I'm not dismissing anything till I see and hear everything. But if you want to put your fingers in your ears and say "lalalalalala Not listening lalalalalala" then be my guest.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. One of the mayors named was a community organizer for Cesar Chavez
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:55 PM
Nov 2015

and another is openly gay. Somehow I doubt we will find any white hoods in either of their closets.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
3. Anonymous has said that it isnt even from them.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:46 PM
Nov 2015

I think maybe someone put out a fake list to preemptively discredit the real one.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. Wouldn't it suck to have a common surname?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:52 PM
Nov 2015

The Smiths, Jone's, Johnson's, etc could wind up in at least being mistaken for someone on that list.

Progressive Democrats? I knew 2 MO House members who were devoted economic prograssives and staunch advocates for medicaid. Yet they sponsored legislation to ensure that the confederate flag could fly on all state property.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
7. the flag anecdote is more evidence than anything posted about these folks
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:03 PM
Nov 2015

so do you still believe it?

a list is not evidence. see how easy it is?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
15. Exactly my point
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:52 PM
Nov 2015

I'm saying that being a Dem is not an automatic disqualifyer and there could even be something widely understood to be evidence. However, not all bigots join a club with criminal and hateful intentions.
I find micro-aggressions (and the refusal to admit and address them), vs outright criminal behaviors and endorsement pretty much equally contemptable. But, the direct results could be very different even if one enables the other.

I don't think that the consequences should be the same. The lines should not be manipulated or blurred as they were with the red scare, the way so many people of Middle Eastern descent have been treated since 9\11, and most relevant, the horrors that have been the results of assumptions that people of color live with daily.

I think I would find it satisfying to see actual KKK members face social, professional, legal penalties. But, I'm not so sure that setting up conditions which would leave room for errors and witch hunts is justifiable whether it is governmentally or privately driven.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. My bet is there is a Jim Smith in Chicago on that list
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:12 PM
Nov 2015

The problem with releasing lists of names is too many names are shared.

I hope they've thought about how to protect the innocents.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
11. Yep...Lists like this are really suspicious in general
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:25 PM
Nov 2015

Personally I would not be surprised if much of it is true...but we will never know for sure will we. Damage done to both sides....the named and those naming...cancel each other out...Although if any future questions arise about any of these listed individuals moral character, even with proof it will be seen as a vendetta.... Frankly it gave me a momentary thrill but these folks will get re-elected if they choose to run.

Journeyman

(15,037 posts)
14. I can't help but draw parallels with Dalton Trumbo and the rest of the Ten . . .
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:37 PM
Nov 2015

as well as all those caught up in the later purges and blacklists -- names too numerous to recite, charges too odious to resuscitate.

For those unaware of the references, a major movie is slated for release this Friday: Trumbo, starring Brian Cranston and Diane Lane. It looks to be very promising.



I have the utmost respect for Dalton Trumbo. He fought the good fight and remained true to himself and his beliefs in the face of overwhelming challenges. I named my son after him.

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