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Archae

(46,340 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:41 PM Nov 2015

Sandy Hook "truthers" are mounting a coordinated attack on Sandy Hook Mother/Author...

Thanks for nothing, Alex Jones.

‘YOU ARE A LYING B*TCH!': Truthers attack grieving mom’s book about her Sandy Hook victim son

Sandy Hook truthers have swarmed the Amazon reviews of a book written by the mother of a 6-year-old massacre victim, accusing her of “Fraud, Treason, And Tyranny.”

Scarlett Lewis is the mother of Jesse Lewis, a first grader who was murdered along with 25 others — mostly little children — when a mass shooter went on a rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary in December of 2012. She penned a book about her grief journey, called Nurturing Healing Love: A Mother’s Journey of Hope and Forgiveness.

But according to the Seattle Times, instead of receiving support after enduring an unthinkable loss, conspiracy theorists have come out in force to malign Lewis.

A quick scan of her Amazon page reveals numerous comments claiming Lewis is lying and urging readers to watch the conspiracy theory video, “We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook,” which is posted to YouTube.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/you-are-a-lying-btch-truthers-attack-grieving-moms-book-about-her-sandy-hook-victim-son/

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Sandy Hook "truthers" are mounting a coordinated attack on Sandy Hook Mother/Author... (Original Post) Archae Nov 2015 OP
Those people are sick. Eom uppityperson Nov 2015 #1
One would think Amazon would have a policy re spamming reviews. No Vested Interest Nov 2015 #2
What in God's name are these "truthers" claiming? SheilaT Nov 2015 #3
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #10
Yeah... no shit... Fix The Stupid Nov 2015 #13
I'm totally clueless as well. procon Nov 2015 #28
All of the above. Archae Nov 2015 #32
I agree - photos, as horrible as they'd be, should be phylny Nov 2015 #40
The CCDL may be behind this. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #4
When did being a foaming-at-the-mouth nutcase become mainstream? Oneironaut Nov 2015 #5
I keep wondering that myself. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #6
yes mercuryblues Nov 2015 #37
I've been wondering about this... skypilot Nov 2015 #24
There's something going on. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #38
Sandy Hook truthers are the absolute worst of humanity melman Nov 2015 #7
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #11
What the heck is up with those dumb ass lovemydog Nov 2015 #8
They think all these people are jen63 Nov 2015 #9
This is so hard to comprehend! loyalsister Nov 2015 #12
Amazing the lengths they go to treestar Nov 2015 #14
sick fucking right-wing assholes spanone Nov 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #19
Soap carving is a fun and productive hobby. uppityperson Nov 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #21
I was worried about you, you didn't use the word shill in you previous reply uppityperson Nov 2015 #22
Nabbed that one quick. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2015 #23
She's been banned thousands of times. I keep trying to find a new hobby for her. uppityperson Nov 2015 #26
This is her hobby. GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #33
I've not, but those are good hobbies too. I have never gotten a response from her to any of my sugge uppityperson Nov 2015 #34
Train spotting near a high speed line? GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #35
You're way too nice malaise Nov 2015 #25
looks like someone took offense at my description..sorry i missed their post spanone Nov 2015 #30
Scarlett Lewis's Ted-x talk is amazing. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #16
Conspiracy theorists should be ignored or mocked Lurks Often Nov 2015 #17
Don't get me started on how much I hate Alex Jones and Infowars. Initech Nov 2015 #18
Sometimes I just despair about the human race. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #27
much, much larger problem EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #29
The NRA may sell them out HassleCat Nov 2015 #31
I'd pay a dollar to see that gratuitous Nov 2015 #36
These fake reviews are clearly abuse of Amazon, and they can and should be reported as such ck4829 Nov 2015 #39

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
2. One would think Amazon would have a policy re spamming reviews.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:54 PM
Nov 2015

Surely it has happened many times re books and products.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. What in God's name are these "truthers" claiming?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

That she had no son? That he wasn't shot to death? That he's being hidden in a bunker in Argentina?

I cannot begin to imagine my degree of anger, grief, and rage, were I in her shoes. One of the reasons I wish photographs of those murdered by guns were published is so that people could begin to understand the violent destruction of a human body that takes place.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. +1000
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 04:43 AM
Nov 2015

Those are my questions exactly. What kind of sick mind would go after this woman after all she has been through?

Fix The Stupid

(948 posts)
13. Yeah... no shit...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:30 AM
Nov 2015

I wish someone would watch that truther film and let us know what they think is fake...

I just don't have the will power to watch it...

Fuck it..I'll try to get thru it - I'll post a synopsis when I can...

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. I'm totally clueless as well.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:11 PM
Nov 2015

Is this just another gun nut conspiracy theory to deny the inherent dangers of guns? Is it an effort to demonize the media? Maybe it's Anti-education or anti-teacher protesters? Do crazy people just hate kids and their families? What are they objecting to?

Archae

(46,340 posts)
32. All of the above.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:47 PM
Nov 2015

Used to be, paranoids like this were given rooms with nice soft walls and friendly people in their "clean white coats."

Nowadays they get in the Internet, host radio talk shows and get elected.

phylny

(8,384 posts)
40. I agree - photos, as horrible as they'd be, should be
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:09 PM
Nov 2015

public and available.

Some graphic medical details below - the squeamish or disinterested should feel free to avoid them.

Years ago I worked in a hospital and was called in to evaluate a man who tried - and failed - to kill himself with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Except he did it the "wrong" way.

It was a "through and through" wound - from one side of his head to the other - temple to temple. The entrance and exit wounds were absolutely awful to look at - raw, black, huge. He was alive and talking, but boy, he wasn't "there" at all - nothing but nonsense. I walked in and he was naked from the waist down, playing with his genitals, offering that same hand to me when I walked in. I always thought that people should SEE what the aftermath of gun violence looks like.

Imagine how terrible the sight of those children riddled with gunshots would be, and imagine that the sight of them might shake some sense into those who refuse to regulate ANYTHING related to firearms.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
4. The CCDL may be behind this.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

CCDL = Connecticut Citizens Defense League. They were pushing this nonsense two years ago.

Oneironaut

(5,520 posts)
5. When did being a foaming-at-the-mouth nutcase become mainstream?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:08 AM
Nov 2015

I truly believe that, 10 years ago, these people would have been laughed off as crazy. What happened? Is being a psychotic, rambling nut job becoming more and more accepted?

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
6. I keep wondering that myself.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:22 AM
Nov 2015

Were these people there all along but just lived under the radar?

When did we get so crazy?

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
37. yes
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:57 PM
Nov 2015

they were. Now the internet connects them so they join others in their delusions. These people need to be locked up, not given a platform to spew their ranting.

skypilot

(8,854 posts)
24. I've been wondering about this...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:43 PM
Nov 2015

...for a few years now, before Sandy Hook truthers even came along. Sometimes I think that there is an epidemic of sociopathy that is going undetected. There just seem to be more and more people out there who have a few faculties missing and maybe we are missing it while people focus on autism and such. I probably sound as nutty as some of these truthers but it's something that's really been gnawing at me for a while now.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
38. There's something going on.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nov 2015

I think the Internet has helped those people find each other. They feed on each other that's for sure.

Part of it, around here at least , is a lack of education. If they go to college they go to those far right religious schools. They come out dumber than when they went in

I don't get it.

When I was growing up in the 50's we had a bunch of people really similar to the preppers. They all built bomb shelters and scared themselves silly. But everyone else just thought they were odd. Now that thinking seems to mainstream.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
7. Sandy Hook truthers are the absolute worst of humanity
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:57 AM
Nov 2015

That shit gets me really angry if I think about it too much.

jen63

(813 posts)
9. They think all these people are
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 04:31 AM
Nov 2015

"crisis actors." The same with 9/11. Youtube is perfect for every skeevy CT out there. They even claim that the same crisis actors are "hired" multiple times, even though their faces have been all over the media. Can't get much more wing nuttier. They piss me off too.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
12. This is so hard to comprehend!
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:18 AM
Nov 2015

I feel a sense of shame if I think I offend people who have done me no harm. I would have a problem with being perceived as hateful. Yet, they seem to wear it like a badge of honor and have no reservations or maybe self - awareness when it comes to being absolutely cruel. This is so far beyond even the most terrifying and horrifying human behaviors.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. Amazing the lengths they go to
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:34 AM
Nov 2015

in order to sustain their CTs. It originates in gun-madness. If this didn't happen, gun control would be less necessary, and they are going from that.

Response to spanone (Reply #15)

Response to uppityperson (Reply #20)

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
22. I was worried about you, you didn't use the word shill in you previous reply
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:25 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:18 PM - Edit history (1)

You might than made in for it here. Damn right, LG, I will continue to work to keep the choice of a legal abortion legal.

I thought you were busy over on discussionist, might make it longer there.

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
26. She's been banned thousands of times. I keep trying to find a new hobby for her.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

But alas, so far no luck.

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)
34. I've not, but those are good hobbies too. I have never gotten a response from her to any of my sugge
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:18 PM
Nov 2015

suggestions, not even the always popular, get out in fresh air train spotting.

spanone

(135,858 posts)
30. looks like someone took offense at my description..sorry i missed their post
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:36 PM
Nov 2015

before it was removed.

was someone defending these assholes?

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
16. Scarlett Lewis's Ted-x talk is amazing.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:17 AM
Nov 2015

She's talks about a bit about stuff I don't believe in (i.e., Jesus, spirit-world stuff), but her message of working through grief by forgiving is truly amazing. I don't think I could do it.



Sandy Hook conspiracy wackos are malicious aholes.
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
17. Conspiracy theorists should be ignored or mocked
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:58 AM
Nov 2015

Because they will rationalize away fact that conflicts with what they believe. While CT's have been around for a long time, the internet has made things worse by giving them a wider audience.

In the case of Sandy Hook, in the rush to be the first with "breaking news", the initial reporting by the media was sloppy and in instances contradictory. Combine that with the State of Connecticut's refusal to release the police report on what happened and you have plenty for the CT's to work with. It took a lawsuit by the Hartford Courant and a judge to get the police report released and it was released about 2 weeks before the one year anniversary of the shooting.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
18. Don't get me started on how much I hate Alex Jones and Infowars.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

They make Rush Limbaugh look sane and rational by comparison.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,809 posts)
27. Sometimes I just despair about the human race.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

There seem to be so many mean, evil people. It's tempting to buy a cabin deep in the woods and never see another damn human again.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
29. much, much larger problem
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

thanks internet /sarcasm

the internet has mainstreamed literally everything... and that of course means absolutely nothing is any less valid than anything else any more...

this is is one (particularly awful) outcome of this...

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
31. The NRA may sell them out
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:46 PM
Nov 2015

The NRA thinks we should keep an eye on emotionally disturbed people. I wonder if the Sandy Hook truthers realize their favorite organization advocates checking on their mental health.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
36. I'd pay a dollar to see that
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:11 PM
Nov 2015

Conspicuous (to me) by their silence in the face of the Sandy Hook Deranged Mob are the NRA, conservative politicians, and popular media mouthpieces for the Second Amendment. They seem quite comfortable with SHDM, as long as they don't have to get out there on this issue and fashion their platform on 28 corpses.

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