Carly Fiorina is just plain wrong on this 'fact'

[spanone]

Carly Fiorina has a new favorite punchline to slam President Obama.

Unfortunately, it's wrong.

Lately, Fiorina likes to say: "92% of the jobs lost during Barack Obama's first term belonged to women."

She said it Thursday morning on CNN. She said it Wednesday night at the debate, and she wrote it in an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal earlier this week.

On the wrong-o-meter, this gets a 10 out of 10.

There were actually more women working at the end of Obama's first term than when he started.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/29/news/economy/carly-fiorina-wrong-92-percent-jobs-lost-women/index.html

[randys1]

1. Republicans never, not ever, not once, never EVER tell the truth, ever.

repeat after me


Republicans never, not ever, not once, never EVER tell the truth, ever.
Republicans never, not ever, not once, never EVER tell the truth, ever.
Republicans never, not ever, not once, never EVER tell the truth, ever.
Republicans never, not ever, not once, never EVER tell the truth, ever.

[RussBLib]

9. that's obviously wrong

although I get the sentiment

for instance, Donald Trump just last week said the twin towers came down while George W. Bush was President.

So maybe rarely, if ever, tell the truth.

[randys1]

18. when it is convenient, ok

[SheilaT]

2. And it was during his first term that we stopped

hemorrhaging jobs, and saw positive job growth by April 2010. I am constantly amazed to what extent people like her just totally make up things. You'd think I'd get used to it, but I never do.

[underpants]

11. Their history began 1/20/09

Because remembering anything before that (other than 9/11) is too painful

[Eugene]

3. Boldly telling a lie that was debunked *three years ago*.

Either she lives in an alternate reality or she has absolutely no regard
for the intelligence of the electorate.

[JHB]

16. She does live in an alternate reality, but...

...so do the people she's pandering to.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

4. What the hell do you expect?

This is the woman who nearly destroyed Hewlett Packard. Numbers and facts are not her forte.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

7. But at HP "if I misrepresented those results or those projections,I could be held criminally liable"

So clearly we should believe anything she says now.

[underpants]

10. Maybe she's just talking about herself

She doesn't actually have a job, and it is clear why

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. The WSJ could easily have fact checked that stat! Oh, wait...

[spanone]

20. that is REALLY funny!!!!!!!

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[Jim Beard]

6. The more it is repeated, it becomes truth in the minds of many.

The republicans are still shackled by the never ending cruel and torturous news media. Deliver them from their bondage!

[RussBLib]

8. Fact-checking the Clown Debate

Truth really means nothing to these people. Whatever it takes to get people riled up. That Fiorina is quite a ... tool.

from Factcheck.org

Fiorina On Job ‘Losses’ For Women Under Obama

Fiorina revived a dated, and now incorrect, talking point from Mitt Romney’s campaign in 2012 when she claimed that “92 percent of the jobs lost during Barack Obama’s first term belonged to women.” It’s true that in the early years of Obama’s presidency, job losses from the recession continued to mount, and women lost a higher percentage of those jobs. But that ignores the massive job losses by men in the recession prior to Obama taking office. And by the end of Obama’s first term, both men and women had gained jobs.

Fiorina: It is the height of hypocrisy for Mrs. Clinton to talk about being the first woman president, when every single policy she espouses, and every single policy of President Obama has been demonstrably bad for women. Ninety-two percent of the jobs lost during Barack Obama’s first term belonged to women.

Back in April 2012, we wrote about Romney’s frequent campaign line that “over 92 percent of the jobs lost under this president were lost by women,” which Romney cited as evidence that Obama’s policies amounted to a “war on women.” Romney was referring to Bureau of Labor Statistics data between January 2009, when Obama took office, and March 2012, the latest available at the time. We noted that statistic was accurate, but didn’t tell the whole story.

Looking back at the whole recession, we wrote, men had lost many more jobs than women. But the biggest job losses for men came earlier in the recession, and recovery for men came faster than it did for women.

Fiorina, however, referred to “Obama’s first term,” and, of course, we now have access to data from the entirety of that first term. And looking at the full four years of Obama’s first term, both men and women gained jobs. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, women gained 416,000 jobs in Obama’s first term (about 32 percent of the overall job gains).

As for Obama’s second term, women have gained another roughly 3.5 million jobs between January 2013 and September 2015. That accounts for 49 percent of the overall job gains during Obama’s second term.

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[COLGATE4]

12. To paraphrase of the TV "judges", 'you can't believe a

Republican even if their tongue comes notarized.'

[COLGATE4]

13. In addition, was I the only one who was struck by

how nasty Fiorina looked last night? Her delivery was with a bobbing head, like a cobra and with an expression of pure hatred and nastiness that I've never seen on a candidate before.

[IcyPeas]

14. wait a minute? carly fiorina concerned about women and poverty

but she is against a women's right to choose!! Wow - major disconnect there carly.

[SoCalMusicLover]

15. It's Too Late

Once the LIE is out there, it's out there, and will get repeated and repeated, and be believed by anyone who hears it.

They will not hear the TRUTH when it is uncovered days later, or even hours later. The LIE will have been heard and sunk in by then, so they won't have time and often will not even hear the correction.

So, her mission was accomplished. If it were Hillary lying about Benghazi, it would be broadcast on every news broadcast for the next year. Since it's a repub candidate though, I doubt we'll hear anything more, or even get a correction from carly herself. Bitch.

[ErikJ]

17. She lies smuggly and arrogantly like its absolute fact.

The worst kind of liar.

[Dont call me Shirley]

19. Thom Hartmann read off an excellent debate-lies debunking list. Anyone have copy? Please post!

[erpowers]

21. When Has She Ever Been Right?

When has Carly Fiorina ever been right? How many things did she get wrong from the first two debates? Many of the things she said in the first two debates were wrong. It might have even been the case that before the two debates Fiorina had already made a name for herself for having snappy phrases that sounded good, but were wrong.

[erpowers]

22. How Many Did Carly Fiorina Fire?

When Carly Fiorina was CEO of HP she supposedly fired 30,000 people. Was Fiorina worried about women and jobs when she fired 30,000 HP employees. What percentage of that group was women? If Fiorina is going to try to use President Obama's record against him, even if she is using inaccurate data, her record as CEO of HP should be used against her.

[thesquanderer]

23. Her Planned Parenthood lie from the first debate was a better whopper.

Wondering what she'll come up with for the next one.