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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:16 AM Oct 2015

“Boehnerland” Lobbyists Win Right to Bombard Student Borrowers With Robocalls

Deep inside the 114-page budget deal that passed the House Wednesday, legislative leaders tucked in a provision that will free debt collectors to bombard student loan borrowers with unlimited robocall and automated text messages where it hurts most — on their mobile devices — even when they are asked to stop.

The change is a major victory for the debt collections industry, which has retained a small army of lawyers and lobbyists for years to weaken the Telephone Consumer Protection Act, the law that protects people from unwanted robocalls and pre-recorded messages.

It’s also a big win for the small network of lobbyists within outgoing Speaker John Boehner’s inner circle, a cadre nicknamed “Boehnerland” by D.C insiders.

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https://theintercept.com/2015/10/28/boehnerland-lobbyists-win-right-to-bombard-student-borrowers-with-robocalls/

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“Boehnerland” Lobbyists Win Right to Bombard Student Borrowers With Robocalls (Original Post) n2doc Oct 2015 OP
KnR for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #1
I like safeinOhio Oct 2015 #2
This article claims Obama & Pelosi approve of this? think Oct 2015 #3
Obama has been pushing for this for years JimDandy Oct 2015 #7
And the noose tightens just a little bit more...n/t gregcrawford Oct 2015 #4
There always has to be a poison pill involved..... blackspade Oct 2015 #5
It was a feature, not a poison pill. Obama has been pushing JimDandy Oct 2015 #9
The bargaining chip always enters the game at the expense of those feeling the most pain. Third Way Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #6
Wait until they make student loan debt inheritable fasttense Oct 2015 #8
already is many student loan debts have parents as co-signers. Sunlei Oct 2015 #17
Boner fucked students again before bawling his exit stage right. Get what you vote for kids. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #10
Not Boner--this apparently was Obama's doing. n/t JimDandy Oct 2015 #11
not. and not falling for that propaganda. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #12
Take it up with Huffpost. JimDandy Oct 2015 #14
This is just bullshit. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #15
I agree it's a bullshit thing to do. JimDandy Oct 2015 #16
John is still passing out industry lobby checks on the floor of the House... Volaris Oct 2015 #13
Another reason why we need Bernie pinebox Oct 2015 #18
You'd have to endlessly block each of the hundreds of phone JimDandy Oct 2015 #19
Did Obama actually push for this to happen? nt Quackers Oct 2015 #20
Then we need to create a catch-22 situation for the debt collectors dickthegrouch Oct 2015 #21
Do you have a smart phone? PADemD Oct 2015 #22

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
7. Obama has been pushing for this for years
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:50 AM
Oct 2015

according to the sub-connected article on Huffpost.

This type of hellish harrassment will also cause a substantial number of already marginalized borrowers to lose their connection to the world.

Families with such a marginalized borrower on their mobile phone family calling plans will be forced to either drop that person or risk everyone in the family having all their monthly minutes eaten up every month by these robo-calls. Yeah, that's the ticket: let's financially penalize 3 other people just to harrass one person.




JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
9. It was a feature, not a poison pill. Obama has been pushing
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:16 AM
Oct 2015

for this for years according to the media.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
6. The bargaining chip always enters the game at the expense of those feeling the most pain. Third Way
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:25 AM
Oct 2015

feels the burden of a functioning government is the poors to bear.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
8. Wait until they make student loan debt inheritable
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:55 AM
Oct 2015

See, if you die owing stuent loans, then your nearest living relative has to pay off your debt. Mark my words, it's going to come and then capitalism will truely be eat its young.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
14. Take it up with Huffpost.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:45 AM
Oct 2015

It's one thing to have to approve a legislative provision in order to get something passed, but I was floored to learn that he has been pushing for years to allow these debt collectors to harangue someone to death with robo-calls and text messages.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
16. I agree it's a bullshit thing to do.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:11 AM
Oct 2015

Robocalls Emerge As Latest Fix For Nation's Student Loan Crisis

"President Barack Obama has long sought to allow the government's loan servicers to auto-dial them, and included the provision in his last several annual buget requests to Congress"

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/561fff03e4b050c6c4a4e72e

He's been trying since 2010 to get this passed and he finally did.

Volaris

(10,273 posts)
13. John is still passing out industry lobby checks on the floor of the House...
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:33 AM
Oct 2015

Only thing he's learned in 20 years is how to do it so none of his co-workers complain.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
18. Another reason why we need Bernie
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:12 AM
Oct 2015

and more progressives.
This in the end will hurt Republicans by pissing off a LOT of college aged voters. Thank God they all own smart phones and can block these calls & texts relatively easily

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
19. You'd have to endlessly block each of the hundreds of phone
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:42 AM
Oct 2015

numbers these debt collectors have.

Won't hurt the Republicans. The student loan lobbyists are drinking themselves silly over their bi-partisan coup. The hurdle for them was not Obama-he had this provision in every one of his annual budgets to Congress since 2010. The hurdle before now was that the Repubs assiduously refused to vote for anything Obama wanted, including provisions like this that they would have sold their souls to get through under a Bush presidency.

Our middle class, whether they realize it or not, desperately need progressives to get in power. The Dem party is so stacked with corporatists like Obama and Clinton, though, that it's going to take years to sweep them out.

dickthegrouch

(3,182 posts)
21. Then we need to create a catch-22 situation for the debt collectors
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 11:07 PM
Oct 2015

How about a law to make it illegal to robocall the same number more than once a week, if the call was answered, and the caller failed to make a connection with the answerer within ten seconds.

I am home flat on my back and being wrenched out of bed at least hourly by robocalls of one kind or another, NONE of which have a person at the other end. They hang up on me after I answered after 30 seconds of silence.

I am absolutely fed up and I'm not getting the rest I need to save my back.

three of them who actually deigned to speak to me have been told in no uncertain terms NEVER to call again (including the ACLU).

I don't care that the law says you don't have to abide by the Do not Call list. If I tell you not to call: DO NOT F***ING CALL. EVER!!!!

And "Rachel from card services": you are a convicted federal criminal: DO NOT CALL ME EVER again.




PADemD

(4,482 posts)
22. Do you have a smart phone?
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:59 AM
Oct 2015

My iPhone has a Do Not Disturb setting where you can choose the hours. Only your favorites can get through to you.

I activated this feature after receiving a wrong number call at 2 a.m. from someone who had obviously been drinking. The ringer on the landline phone in my bedroom has been also turned off for the same reason.

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