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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 04:40 AM Oct 2015

Call It Like It Is: Marco Rubio Is Just Better At This Than Jeb Bush

And then, Rubio pounced.

“Well, it’s interesting,” he said, noting that Bush has recently praised Arizona Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign comeback as a model for his own White House bid. “You know how many votes John McCain missed when he was carrying out that furious comeback that you’re modeling after? Jeb, I don’t remember you ever complaining about John McCain’s vote record. The only reason you’re doing it now is because we’re running for the same position and somebody has convinced you that attacking me is going to help you.”

It was a devastating charge. And the only thing that Bush could offer in return was stunned silence.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marco-rubio-jeb-bush-cnbc-debate_56319117e4b00aa54a4cbdd4

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Call It Like It Is: Marco Rubio Is Just Better At This Than Jeb Bush (Original Post) UCmeNdc Oct 2015 OP
Actually, what Bush should have done was humility. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #1
You're right of course. GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #4
No, he should not have, he had a kill shot Cosmocat Oct 2015 #7
Bush is too slow to think that quick.... UCmeNdc Oct 2015 #17
Right now on Good Morning America - they're calling Rubio the "big winner" nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #2
True or not customerserviceguy Oct 2015 #5
Rubio is the threat Cosmocat Oct 2015 #9
jeb completely flubbed this smorkingapple Oct 2015 #3
Close, but the kill shot Cosmocat Oct 2015 #8
meh alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #10
You are not a republican Cosmocat Oct 2015 #21
This was good too. smorkingapple Oct 2015 #13
Yeah, Better ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #6
He did pwn Bush a couple times, but I don't think Rubio ecstatic Oct 2015 #11
He's also short, something that will hurt him on stage against Hillary smorkingapple Oct 2015 #15
Rubio is a remarkably facile liar; glib, aggressive and untroubled by facts. bklyncowgirl Oct 2015 #12
Joe Scar ripped Rubio to shreds this a.m. tavernier Oct 2015 #16
I wonder who is the Jerk's favored clown. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #18
Appears to be papa Munster at this point tavernier Oct 2015 #19
Ewwww MoonRiver Oct 2015 #20
I been saying for months Rubio is the one to worry about. B Calm Oct 2015 #14
Rubio will eventually melt away when/if the spotlight hits him. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2015 #22
Jeb never wanted to run in the first place, he was put up to it by a panicked geek tragedy Oct 2015 #23

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Actually, what Bush should have done was humility.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:31 AM
Oct 2015

He should have said 'You know, Marco, you're right. I SHOULD have complained about John McCain not doing his Senate job at the time. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now.'

GeorgeGist

(25,322 posts)
4. You're right of course.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:06 AM
Oct 2015

It's kills me that supposed Dems think Rubio's comeback was devastating when in fact it was childish.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
7. No, he should not have, he had a kill shot
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:50 AM
Oct 2015

That would have likely destroyed Rubio and he is so dense and simple minded he didn't even see it.

Rubio's excusing his not taking votes was to say that Kerry and Obama did the same thing when they were running.

The kill shot was this - "Mr. Rubio, this evening, in front of a national television audience and the entire republican electorate, you have just said that your model for governance is John Kerry and Barrack Obama."

What ever bullshit Rubio babbled after that ... "No, Mr. Rubio, just now, in front of god and country, you said that you model yourself after John Kerry and Barrack Obama ..."

Drop mike ...

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
17. Bush is too slow to think that quick....
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:21 AM
Oct 2015

He needed a handler to have a mic in his ear like his brother W. had.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. True or not
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:15 AM
Oct 2015

as I read the post-mortems, Bush is toast, that's one thing this debate did. His backers will be closing their checkbooks.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
9. Rubio is the threat
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:54 AM
Oct 2015

Trump absolutely can win, Carson would be a disaster for the republicans as their nominee, Cruz would have a hard time ...

But, Rubio is their type of candidate. He LOOKS the part, and has just enough veneer to him that they could prop him up as their singular candidate ...

I don't want any part of Trump, but Rubio is the one who I think is their surest bet if he can clear the primary.

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
3. jeb completely flubbed this
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:06 AM
Oct 2015

When Marco came back with that McCain line, the response should have been simple and brutal. Rubio teed up the Lloyd Bentsen angle:

"Marco, John McCain has been a Senator almost as long as you've been alive, is a war hero and has more than served his country and his state. I know John McCain, sir. Marco, you're no John McCain"

No way Rubio had a response for that, it would have been all over the news and it would have immediately shown Bush had a cage fighter inside of him.

The fact him and his team didn't chess match that out just shows he's not cut out for the job.

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
8. Close, but the kill shot
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:52 AM
Oct 2015

wasn't McCain, it was his saying Kerry and Obama did the same thing.

The kill shot, in a republican primary was to say, "Mr. Rubio, in front of god and country, a national TV audience and the entire republican electorate, you have just declared that your model for governance is John Kerry and Barack Obama ..."

Cosmocat

(14,567 posts)
21. You are not a republican
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

Sticking up for john mccain means nothing to them.

Using his words comparing himself to john kerry and barrack obama is akin to to him comparing himself to satan in their world.

Jeo scarborough said that is what he would have hit him with.

ecstatic

(32,721 posts)
11. He did pwn Bush a couple times, but I don't think Rubio
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:33 AM
Oct 2015

is ready for prime time either. He seems too young and inexperienced. I'm not sure who his target audience is.

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
15. He's also short, something that will hurt him on stage against Hillary
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:07 AM
Oct 2015

sounds stupid but that shit matters to people. He won't have the commanding physical presence over her that's a must for anyone going up against her. Obama had it and it helped he knew his shit. She'll run circles around him in a debate, amazed people think that'll be a contest.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
12. Rubio is a remarkably facile liar; glib, aggressive and untroubled by facts.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 08:39 AM
Oct 2015

Jeb Bush's heart is not in this. It was probably never in this. He was pushed to get in, probably promised it would be an easy march to the nomination. Then along comes The Donald and all of a sudden his run for glory ceased to be fun.

My guess is he wants out--badly.

Rubio on the other hand is a man who has three qualities. The first is a burning ambition. The second is rather remarkable incompetence. I mean how does a man with all his advantages manage to screw up his personal finances as badly as he has. Finally, he is a remarkable liar, glib, untroubled by facts and aggressive and passionate in defense of his lies when being questioned.

He is the perfect tool for the powers that be.

tavernier

(12,395 posts)
16. Joe Scar ripped Rubio to shreds this a.m.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:09 AM
Oct 2015

Called him a liar, an opportunist, every name in the book over and over. I adore watching them eating each other alive. Jeb, a loser, Rubio, a liar, Democrats... Winners!

tavernier

(12,395 posts)
19. Appears to be papa Munster at this point
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:43 AM
Oct 2015

He was praising Cruz up and down, now that his Jeb has been a disappointment.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,845 posts)
22. Rubio will eventually melt away when/if the spotlight hits him.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:13 PM
Oct 2015

He's survived so far by being able to dodge the tough questions because no one really cares yet. As someone above put it, the other candidates haven't bothered yet to plot out the chess moves against him.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. Jeb never wanted to run in the first place, he was put up to it by a panicked
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:15 PM
Oct 2015

establishment who had been hoping on Governor The Dad from The Goldbergs

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