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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:46 PM Oct 2015

So, are you a Bolshevik, or a Menshevik?

According to Ted Cruz, we're all one or the other, so I figure hey, might as well start a thread so people can get in on the ground floor.

Me, I'm wondering where the fuck he even learned the word "Menshevik"

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So, are you a Bolshevik, or a Menshevik? (Original Post) Scootaloo Oct 2015 OP
Manischewitz n/t ryan_cats Oct 2015 #1
Menshevik's were a non-leninist Russian Social Democratic Worker's Party Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #2
'Me, I'm wondering where the fuck he even learned the word "Menshevik"' left on green only Oct 2015 #3
Cruz is obviously a... GReedDiamond Oct 2015 #4
. Krytan11c Oct 2015 #6
Bingo! valerief Oct 2015 #28
LOL deutsey Oct 2015 #34
Bakuninite. n/t Chan790 Oct 2015 #5
Did he mean everyone or just liberals? ronnie624 Oct 2015 #7
It's Cruz, throwing meat-gobbets to the Republican base... JHB Oct 2015 #24
I thought Republicans loved Putin world wide wally Oct 2015 #8
EarlG was spot on Depaysement Oct 2015 #9
What do you call someone who worships Mammon? Octafish Oct 2015 #10
Ahhhh, Screw the Mets. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #11
Neither... yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #12
I'm a mensch-ivik Recursion Oct 2015 #13
Can I be a Mannlicher? EOM Kurska Oct 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #15
Mooninite frylock Oct 2015 #16
Thread winner. hifiguy Oct 2015 #20
Princeton? KamaAina Oct 2015 #17
Ted Cruz should not use terms TBF Oct 2015 #18
Menshevik. hifiguy Oct 2015 #19
I'm voting for Bernie Sanders, so apparently I'm a "Broshevik" Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #21
Heh. +1 lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #27
Always, bro. hifiguy Oct 2015 #30
Omnivore, thanks for askin! Rex Oct 2015 #22
Naw, he's a lunatik. hifiguy Oct 2015 #25
Thread win! Rex Oct 2015 #26
Meshuggah. And happy about it. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #23
Remember, a big reason Cruz is so dangerous is that he is very, Hortensis Oct 2015 #29
All true, which proves he is one of two things hifiguy Oct 2015 #31
Hifiguy, my own best guess is that he is a sociopath, perhaps that Hortensis Oct 2015 #32
Bernshevik n/t n2doc Oct 2015 #33
I wondered what the average GOPer must have thought when they heard that deutsey Oct 2015 #35

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
2. Menshevik's were a non-leninist Russian Social Democratic Worker's Party
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:51 PM
Oct 2015

They fought with the Bolsheviks. They advocated gradual development of full socialism through parliamentary government and cooperation with bourgeois parties, until they were defeated and absorbed into the Bolsheviks.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
3. 'Me, I'm wondering where the fuck he even learned the word "Menshevik"'
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:06 AM
Oct 2015

It probably came from one of his stoolie, staff, junior college graduates that he hired with all of his stuper-pac money.

I know it is rumored that he himself graduated from Oxford, but I find that almost as easy to believe as Tronald Trump's claim that his having been incarcerated in a military prep school qualifies him as having the experience to become "commander in chief."

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
7. Did he mean everyone or just liberals?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:37 AM
Oct 2015

If he meant liberals only, he's just calling us all commies. If he meant everyone, I don't think he understands either word.

As for myself, I think any kind of economic theory should be firmly grounded in science. If it is not, it's pure hogwash. And casting votes to determine our political destiny, is an absolute must.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
24. It's Cruz, throwing meat-gobbets to the Republican base...
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 04:41 PM
Oct 2015

...so he's just calling us all commies.

There's not much room for nuance in a demolition-derby environment.

Response to Scootaloo (Original post)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. Thread winner.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 04:02 PM
Oct 2015

Ignignokt: On the moon, the weekend has advanced beyond your wildest dreams. Weekends now take up the entire week, and jobs have been phased out accordingly.

Err: We get checks from the government. And we use them to buy beer.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. Princeton?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

I mean, you can't spend four years in an Ivy League school without learning something. Oh, wait a minute, George W. Bush Yale '68.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. Menshevik.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:57 PM
Oct 2015

He had to pick up a few big words at Princeton (how the fuck did he ever get in?) didn't he? By osmosis if nothing else.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Remember, a big reason Cruz is so dangerous is that he is very,
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 06:02 PM
Oct 2015

very smart -- brilliant -- and very well educated. He graduated cum laude from Princeton and magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, was an editor of the Law Review -- and other very high-prestige competitive positions on legal journals!, and served as a law clerk to Supreme Court Chief Justice Rehnquist. He wasn't very well liked in school, apparently, and regarded by some as odd and obnoxious, but that hasn't stopped him from going very far indeed.

I suspect, being The Anointed One, that he thought the religious right was his to pick up, not Carson's, but he'll be working on that.

In any case, my guess is Cruz could lecture off the cuff about mensheviks for several minutes without pausing. Widen it to Russian history in general, and no telling how long we'd be sitting there.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
31. All true, which proves he is one of two things
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:49 PM
Oct 2015

and there are no other plausible alternatives. He is either

1. A liar the proportions of which defy quantification, gulling the rubes for his own political ends,

or far, far more likely, he is

2. A genuinely clinical sociopath/psychopath who actually believes the schizoid horseshit that emanates from his noisehole.

I met one person I would label a clinical psychopath in my time at Harvard Law, but he wasn't a Princeton grad. The guy openly admitted after one too many beers he wanted to become an FBI or CIA agent because "I want to kill people for fun and get away with it." Naturally enough, he was a shrieking RWNJ product of Texas "Christian" University.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Hifiguy, my own best guess is that he is a sociopath, perhaps that
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 03:49 AM
Oct 2015

"dark triad" of personality disorders I don't really understand? In giving that another try, I ran across this: "A Narcissist, a Psychopath and a Machiavellian Walk into a Bar. The bartender asks, ‘who has the darkest personality out of you three?’ The Narcissist says ‘me’, the Psychopath says, ‘I don’t care’ and the Mach says ‘it’s whoever I want it to be’."

Psychopathy used to be classed as "antisocial personality disorder," and I've found a lot of what would be scary stuff in a high-level politician searching that term. In any case, these guys are also very good liars. But not schizophrenic. They're completely sane.

Then, along the Social Dominance line of research, there's the "double high authoritarian" definition of very ruthless people who seek power and make really nasty political operators.

Cruz caught my attention because, with the right behaving the way it has been, I've been watching for a really dangerous leader to appear. Now I'm wondering about that nice-faced Rubio too. My guess is that Trump's probably a clinical narcissist who wants attention -- and to be liked -- a lot more than he wants presidential power. And who and what is Ben Carson really? Just a guy who wanted to sell books and finds himself off on Mr. Carson's Wild Ride? ??

Whatever. Like your Texas Christian guy at Harvard, the far right seems to provide an abundance of...interesting personalities.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
35. I wondered what the average GOPer must have thought when they heard that
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 08:18 AM
Oct 2015

They don't even know American history, let alone Russian history.

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